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Analysis: Can United States defuse Koran burning uproar?
Reuters ^ | Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:40pm EST | Phil Stewart

Posted on 02/23/2012 5:36:59 PM PST by Olog-hai

After a third day of bloody protests over the burning of the Koran, there is a sense that America is lurching from one image crisis to the next in Afghanistan, with no clear path for U.S. officials to defuse the latest uproar.

President Barack Obama apologized on Thursday for the burning of copies of the Koran on a U.S. base in Afghanistan, an incident that has triggered far more outcry than another shocking incident: the emergence of a video last month showing Marines urinating on the corpses of what appear to be dead Taliban fighters.

Obama's apology over the Koran burning has been accompanied by other steps by the U.S. military meant to show remorse over what it sees as a tragic blunder. The Pentagon detailed new outreach to Muslim leaders, and the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan has promised training on the proper handling of religious materials as well as a swift investigation.

But analysts are doubtful more can be done to calm Afghans incensed by the destruction of Islam's holy book.

Instead, outrage in Afghanistan may have to simply run its course, leaving America to grapple with any fallout on its delicate campaign to foster reconciliation and forge a long-term security agreement with Afghanistan. …

The Taliban has urged Afghans to target foreign military bases and kill Westerners in retaliation and, on Thursday, a man wearing an Afghan army uniform opened fire on two American servicemembers. NATO has declined to say if the shooting was connected to the protests.

President Hamid Karzai's office said on Thursday it wanted NATO to put on public trial those responsible. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; fakeoutrage; jihad; koranburning
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Now what was it that Churchill said about appeasement?
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
And that's the man whose bust Obama returns to Britain, instead of actually learning something from the man and being spurred on to win what Obama himself termed the "war of necessity". (Believing the propaganda against Churchill is obviously more important.)
1 posted on 02/23/2012 5:37:04 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

What this idiot doesn’t realize is that he may want to appease them but the American people refuse to do the same.


2 posted on 02/23/2012 5:40:31 PM PST by RC2
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To: Olog-hai

Counter Analysis: Who really gives a $hit....


3 posted on 02/23/2012 5:41:09 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Olog-hai

do we even want to? i say FO!


4 posted on 02/23/2012 5:41:24 PM PST by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: Olog-hai

It is not our war against Islam.

It is Islam’s war against us.


5 posted on 02/23/2012 5:41:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai
This is no time to apologize or show remorse.

Start by penalizing Afghanistan a million dollars a day out of the billions we put in there, until the protesters are gone and charge them for all damages.

If they don't come through, then take military action against one of their units closest to Karzai - start by leveling one of their barracks.

These people only respond to strength and force. If we don't take tough action now the next time the radicals will do worse.

6 posted on 02/23/2012 5:41:48 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Olog-hai

Pull out of Afghanistan now. It is a hell hole that is not worth another American life or another American dollar. And if in the future there is a real need to go back, then go back to do it right, from the air, and leave the place a land of green glass.


7 posted on 02/23/2012 5:45:03 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Olog-hai

No apology, lets just burn the rest of them.


8 posted on 02/23/2012 5:45:35 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Olog-hai

The Afghans have no respect or fear of the US. Yell, “GUN!” and open up on the crowd. If they still don’t respect us, they will damned sure fear us.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 5:46:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Olog-hai
We need a new cabinet level department and a new Czar to run it.

The United States Department of Apology and Genuflection.

10 posted on 02/23/2012 5:47:21 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Olog-hai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2850424/posts

This is the only apologizing we ought to be discussing.

11 posted on 02/23/2012 5:48:35 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Olog-hai
Can United States defuse Koran burning uproar?

No, the Mohammedans response to any effort to defuse their outrage will be more outrage. Mohammedans first response to anything is outrage. They do mellow out fairly quickly when faced with naked violence, however.

12 posted on 02/23/2012 5:49:37 PM PST by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: Olog-hai

Forget the stupid books and the nonsense.

The CRIME is touching an American citizen or soldier.
The penalty should be swift.


13 posted on 02/23/2012 5:50:27 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Olog-hai

I must be missing something here.

We free them from the beheadings and limb removals, put more money into their crappy country than we put into some of our own states, put their women and girls in school and stop the bearded ones from raping them randomly and then killing them for being raped, we install working plumbing for the first time in their history so they don’t have take a dump in holes in the ground, we enable them to have democratic elections and elect leaders instead of terrorist rulers who beat them into submission, we help them get accepted into the international community...and for that we get three days of crap and two dead for burning the very terrorist propaganda that we freed them from (not unblemished Korans as the media would have you believe). Where are all the democracy and peace-loving Afghans we have been hearing about? O yeah, right, they are busy screeching in the streets and killing those who put their lives on the line to save them from the Taliban crap, and that includes that jerk Karzai.

Screw this. Pull out the troops. Send in the bombers.


14 posted on 02/23/2012 5:53:41 PM PST by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: Olog-hai

Afghanistan has a huge border with Iran. Obviously, Iran is infiltrating the country with provocateurs and terrorists. We need to cut off the head of the snake. Once done, our troubles in the Middle East are over.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 5:55:05 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Olog-hai

Muslim = infantile outrage. Every time they throw a tantrum the world has to pay attention. Why not simply round up the rioters at night by snatching them out of their beds? This thing is being ginned up by the Taliban and our media are playing along.

Is this CIC really afraid that he’ll incite more Muslim anger? If it’s Thursday it must be Afghanistan. Friday is Egypt.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 5:55:12 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: elpadre

We should just create some paramilitaries and turn them loose on these enemies of America. Our money would go further and without spilling American blood. Let our Afghans kill their Afghans, repeat throughout Islamistan.


17 posted on 02/23/2012 5:57:11 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Olog-hai
What is it with these people? They have the two-minute hate perfected to the point where Orwell can call it the twenty-century hate.

Although I suspect our government has its own kook farm; when the administration needs a diversion from the news headlines, they unleash a “person they have been monitoring” and give them a plastic bomb vest from Hasbro. So maybe we are not much better.

18 posted on 02/23/2012 5:57:24 PM PST by AdSimp
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To: Olog-hai

Analysis on how to defuse this? Really? The sky being blue is cause for jihad!

This may as well be the Borg..you don’t ‘reason’ with it..you destroy it. Utterly.


19 posted on 02/23/2012 5:59:59 PM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron)
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To: Olog-hai
The Ismh doctrine has not changed since 9/11/01. Detonate 3 above ground H bombs and tell the rest of the world to sit down and shut up.

20 posted on 02/23/2012 5:59:59 PM PST by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Olog-hai

I hope not...

let’s settle this once and for all


21 posted on 02/23/2012 5:59:59 PM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: Olog-hai

Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 6:00:17 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

We should be torching a mosque over there for every soldier of ours that dies. Apologies for burning a heretical manual what the F ever.


23 posted on 02/23/2012 6:02:38 PM PST by eak3
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To: Olog-hai

Nuke the site from orbit...it’s the only way to be sure.


24 posted on 02/23/2012 6:04:39 PM PST by WeatherGuy
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To: Olog-hai

Obama just inflames the matter. I think he wants to. nAn excuse for cutting and running.


25 posted on 02/23/2012 6:09:31 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Olog-hai

Send a telelgram to Karzai: Quiet the rabble or die in the rubble.


26 posted on 02/23/2012 6:12:34 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Olog-hai
These protests are ginned up. If a Koran is written in it is considered desecrated. Each of these was written in. The proper way to dispose of a desicrated koran is ........ wait for it........ Thats right burning.

The Won needs to grow a pair (or borrow Mooshelles) and tell Karzai to STFU.

27 posted on 02/23/2012 6:13:40 PM PST by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: Navy Patriot

They’ll have a Bureau of Scraping and Bowing.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 6:15:00 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Olog-hai

OK, if these schmucks don’t like us, BRING OUR FOLKS HOME
and let them resume murdering one another. A few more years of that and we’ll have a lot fewer of them to worry about.


29 posted on 02/23/2012 6:16:01 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Obozo deserves another term: IN LEAVENWORTH. 25 to life sounds about right!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"If they still don’t respect us, they will damned sure fear us."

That won't happen. Americans have become too civilized (read soft/weak) to deal effectively with the uncivilized. In this part of the world the word respect is synonymous with the word fear. If you want these people to behave, you must first kill half of them and then the remaining half just might behave. If they don't, then you just may have to halve them again. We aren't going to do that, so we just may as well leave.

30 posted on 02/23/2012 6:17:07 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Olog-hai

One wonders what the respectful way to dispose of a copy of the Koran is. Flags and Bibles are destroyed by fire, in a show of respect. I’m not sure what the procedure for the Koran is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is supposed to destroyed by fire too.

If that is true, I’d simply state that we chose to dispose of the Koran in the manner that is most respectful, by fire. No disrespect was intended.

Then I’d tell the angry masses to either accept it, or deal with the consequences.

I’ve had it up to here with manipulative followers of Islam. I happen to respect Christ, but I’m not out killing people if they don’t.


31 posted on 02/23/2012 6:26:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Olog-hai

Churchill also said, “more rubble, less trouble”, words with great relevance to our work in that irredeemable sh*thole.


32 posted on 02/23/2012 6:29:15 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: morphing libertarian
They’ll have a Bureau of Scraping and Bowing.

They'll be in charge of prone protocol.

33 posted on 02/23/2012 6:29:26 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: verga
These protests are ginned up. If a Koran is written in it is considered desecrated. Each of these was written in. The proper way to dispose of a desicrated koran is ........ wait for it........ Thats right burning.

Let me guess, the muzzies wrote in it "I hate this sh*t!" and "Big Moh sucks!".

34 posted on 02/23/2012 6:32:29 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Olog-hai

my understanding is that prisoners were using korans to pass messages, that we confiscated these korans and replaced them, then burned those used to send messages?

am i misinformed?

if not, doesn’t that add a distinctly different flavor to the ‘burned a few korans’ story?


35 posted on 02/23/2012 6:45:11 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Olog-hai

Analysis: Can United States defuse Koran burning uproar?
Yes we can...Pull every serviceman out and reduce the whole place to little more than a burnt out cinder. Then have a military rally around the White House demanding an apology form Zero as he’s led away in chains. Just my silly thoughts on the subject.


36 posted on 02/23/2012 6:45:42 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: Olog-hai

No, because if we didn’t do anything, the Taliban would just make something up.


37 posted on 02/23/2012 6:47:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: I see my hands

Actually the Islamic doctrine has not changed since about 636 AD.

I agree- on 9/12/01, two nukes on Medina and Mecca would have solvced their world domination plans in one day.

Since 636 AD, the spread of Islam has only been stopped by an overwhelming show of force.

Until our culture comes to grip with this fact, Islam will continue to make inroads here, in its unquenchable drive to dominate other cultures and make them submit to Islam.


38 posted on 02/23/2012 6:56:06 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, what did this Churchill guy do, anyway? /s


39 posted on 02/23/2012 7:02:18 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: exit82

Why not Tehran also?


40 posted on 02/23/2012 7:02:28 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Psycho_Bunny

How would they react to a video of someone wiping a pig’s ass with pages out of their Islamic manifesto?

It wouldn’t be too difficult to use pages as bedding for the hogs. I’m sure someone in one of those weird countries has been filmed having their way with a pig. It shouldn’t be hard to spread that stuff far and wide over the internet. If cartoons send them over the edge, I figure we can jack their blood pressure up long enough and often enough they’ll be in a perpetual frenzy.

At least we can ID the locals and take precautions.

Think of it like turning on the light and watching the cockroaches run. Once you know where they are you can be prepared.


41 posted on 02/23/2012 7:46:14 PM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: stubernx98

On the money with that post, burn em all


42 posted on 02/23/2012 7:48:49 PM PST by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: RC2
What this idiot doesn’t realize is that he may want to appease them but the American people refuse to do the same.

Time to burn some qurans again, and post the pics. Several were used for fuel the last time this became an excuse for murder.

Is that necessary?
Well, no.
But if it riles the koranimals, that's incentive enough. I never bought the PC hand wringing that it endangers our troops; they have been killed for years due to the more asinine "rules of engagement" which punish them for doing their job, and protects the MMM (mass mass murderers.

Apologize this!

43 posted on 02/23/2012 7:53:53 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: RC2
What this idiot doesn’t realize is that he may want to appease them but the American people refuse to do the same.

Time to burn some qurans again, and post the pics. Several were used for fuel the last time this became an excuse for murder.

Is that necessary?
Well, no.
But if it riles the koranimals, that's incentive enough. I never bought the PC hand wringing that it endangers our troops; they have been killed for years due to the more asinine "rules of engagement" which punish them for doing their job, and protects the MMM (mass mass murderers.

Apologize this!

44 posted on 02/23/2012 7:55:03 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Who really gives a $hit?’’< I sure don’t . Worthless Saracen bastards.


45 posted on 02/23/2012 7:55:57 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Publius6961

Heck, you don’t even have to burn a Koran, just say you’re going to burn one, and that’s all it takes to set those people off.


46 posted on 02/23/2012 7:56:30 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Olog-hai
It is time for our president to explain to the world that we will treat the Koran the same as the Bible is treated in Arab countries. Arab and Muslim being one in the same here.
If the Islamic world doesn't like it they can get over it or get used to it. If they want to raise hell and kill Americans in any way we will define their country of origin, find their home town or city and place a very well made American nuclear weapon directly up their a......... At that time we start the explanation all over again, get used to it or get over it or give us another target. If they want to have a temper tantrum about some stupid book and use it as an excuse to kill Americans we need to send them all to hell. The sooner the better. I am out of patience for these prehistoric murdering fanatics. They only respect massive force and the willingness to use it. We might as well get er done!!!!
47 posted on 02/23/2012 7:58:05 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: dfwgator
The whole thing feels like a setup. Let's face it, the muzzies will find something to "get upset" over, if not this then something else. How can you "defuse" intentional agitprop, which the muzzies had perfected even before commies came along? None of this is coincidental, it's a carefully choreographed act in a play.
48 posted on 02/23/2012 8:33:42 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

If they wouldn’t make the Koran out of a flammable material, they wouldn’t burn.


49 posted on 02/23/2012 8:36:22 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Olog-hai
Defuse this....

I say we should develop a hybrid car that runs on Korans!

Rather burn them than ethanol.

50 posted on 02/23/2012 8:36:46 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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