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U.S. does not believe Iran is trying to build nuclear bomb
The Los Angeles Times ^ | February 23, 2012 | Ken Dilanian

Posted on 02/23/2012 8:13:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As U.S. and Israeli officials talk publicly about the prospect of a military strike against Iran's nuclear program, one fact is often overlooked: U.S. intelligence agencies don't believe Iran is actively trying to build an atomic bomb.

A highly classified U.S. intelligence assessment circulated to policymakers early last year largely affirms that view, originally made in 2007. Both reports, known as national intelligence estimates, conclude that Tehran halted efforts to develop and build a nuclear warhead in 2003.

The most recent report, which represents the consensus of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, indicates that Iran is pursuing research that could put it in a position to build a weapon, but that it has not sought to do so.

Although Iran continues to enrich uranium at low levels, U.S. officials say they have not seen evidence that has caused them to significantly revise that judgment. Senior U.S. officials say Israel does not dispute the basic intelligence or analysis....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
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How reassuring.
1 posted on 02/23/2012 8:13:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/believe.wav


2 posted on 02/23/2012 8:18:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1940: Flash!

U.S. does not believe Japan is going to bomb Hawaii.

3 posted on 02/23/2012 8:18:20 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Bombs in Hawaii??????-?- Who knew?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow. Just wow.


4 posted on 02/23/2012 8:18:43 PM PST by null and void (Day 1129 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jesus wept.


5 posted on 02/23/2012 8:27:07 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: null and void

This information was no doubt “leaked” by the administration to a friendly journalist. If this theme (”Iran has not decided to actually build a bomb.) starts getting repeated often by Administration officials, then Obama has made a decision to back off and not risk war. They will then bring incredible pressure on Israel to do likewise.


6 posted on 02/23/2012 8:31:04 PM PST by allendale
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; null and void
It's unclear how much access U.S. intelligence has in Iran

Probably about as much as I do. And I think they are building a bomb.

7 posted on 02/23/2012 8:31:46 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A highly classified U.S. intelligence assessment circulated to policymakers early last year largely affirms that view, originally made in 2007. Both reports, known as national intelligence estimates, conclude that Tehran halted efforts to develop and build a nuclear warhead in 2003.

What a total and absolute load of Bull Sh-t. If they were not trying to make a nuclear weapon they would welcome any and all inspectors to inspect their installations anytime the inspectors wanted.

Why in the hell would they put these installation in hardened (deep underground) if it was a peaceful program. It is not a peaceful program , and this article is a lie.

The Los Angeles Times is a very friendly paper to Obama. They did not pull this article out of their butts and decide to print it. This article has the Obama administrations finger prints all over it. But the real question is why?

8 posted on 02/23/2012 8:32:57 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reassuring indeed. If “newly recruited informants” tell us that Iran isn’t building weapons, that’s good enough for me.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 8:34:30 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, insisted Wednesday that Tehran had no intention of producing nuclear weapons. In remarks broadcast on state television, he said that “owning a nuclear weapon is a big sin.”

But he said that “pressure, sanctions and assassinations” would not stop Iran from producing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.

Well now, nothing to see here folks. Move along.


10 posted on 02/23/2012 8:35:35 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

that view, originally made in 2007.

Five years ago? When was the last time
a real inspection of Iran was possible?

Five years was all it took to invade Poland.
Five years was all it took for US to make the bomb.
From scratch!


11 posted on 02/23/2012 8:38:42 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
one fact is often overlooked: U.S. intelligence agencies don't believe Iran is actively trying to build an atomic bomb.

These would be the same US intelligence agencies that didn't believe that the Soviet Union would ever collapse, had no inkling of the 9/11 attacks, thought Saddam was about to go nuclear and took a decade to notice that Osama bin Laden was sitting around watching porn right next to Pakistan's main military academy.

And now they don't think Iran is trying to build an atomic bomb. Somehow I'm not reassured.
12 posted on 02/23/2012 8:40:55 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Yes, these are the same agencies that were surprised
when Pakistan detonated their first bomb.


13 posted on 02/23/2012 8:42:30 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek; BenLurkin; bunkerhill7; null and void; Shadowstrike; allendale; bigheadfred; ...

Then why are we joining all these other countries in imposing sanctions on Iran? You can’t have it both ways!


14 posted on 02/23/2012 8:47:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You can’t have it both ways!

You can if you're a democrat.

15 posted on 02/23/2012 8:50:03 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why then are Israeli and western states involved in assassinations of nuclear scientists and other covert actions? The intel agencies were in bed with the Clinton admin. also.
Treasonous I say.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 8:52:41 PM PST by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
U.S. intelligence agencies don't believe Iran is actively trying to build an atomic bomb.

U.S. intelligencies have been politicized to suit the leading Communist's agenda. (Sorry for being Capt. Obvious.)

17 posted on 02/23/2012 8:52:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It would be interesting to see the HUMINT that supports this belief. Iran for a fact was trying to buy nuclear tech when I was in the know more than 25 years ago. I find it hard to believe that Iran has made no progress in all of this time????

Things that make you go hmmmmm.....

18 posted on 02/23/2012 8:55:46 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet more sabotage.

Our alleged government, is working against our nation’s future.

It is incredible, the ideological, anti-American left is actually getting away with this.

The lies and agenda, are all so obvious.

Yet they continue, unopposed by those whose job it should be to say clearly “YOU LIE”.

Where are they?


19 posted on 02/23/2012 8:56:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
These would be the same US intelligence agencies that didn't believe that the Soviet Union would ever collapse, had no inkling of the 9/11 attacks, thought Saddam was about to go nuclear and took a decade to notice that Osama bin Laden was sitting around watching porn right next to Pakistan's main military academy.

And now they don't think Iran is trying to build an atomic bomb. Somehow I'm not reassured.

Understand where this first came from.

Recall the civil war the CIA was conducting on the Bush administration? Remember Valerie Plame, e.g.?

Bush had strongly claimed that we would not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. In 2007, the situation was getting dicey...Iran appeared to be making serious progress...and the Israelis were getting nervous. It seemed there was a very real risk that Bush would be forced to make good on his threat.

And, then, immediately in advance of a visit to the White House by the Israeli PM, the CIA produced a new National Intelligence Estimate.

This was the NIE that first made the claim that Iran was no longer working on a weapon...and had actually dropped the idea in 2003. It pulled the rug right out from under Bush...and Israel. And the contents were leaked to the New York Times -- so that everybody knew there was no longer any basis for attacking Iran. The NIE was composed with this outcome in mind -- the CIA thus assuming effective control of foreign policy.

Who knows what is really going on at Isfahan and Natanz? The Israelis doubtless have a far better idea than the CIA. But having propounded the lie, they now seek to maintain it.

20 posted on 02/23/2012 8:56:43 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee they might be surprised when any day the Iranians test their weapon. Lets just hope the test isn’t on a missile aimed at Israel.


21 posted on 02/23/2012 8:57:48 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just yesterday I read something about the Iranian scientist that was blown up. It said: “Mostafa’s ultimate goal was the annihilation of Israel,” Fatemeh Bolouri Kashani told FNA on Tuesday. The article went on to say: “Iran’s 32-year-old Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan Behdast, a chemistry professor and a deputy director of commerce at Natanz uranium enrichment facility, was assassinated during the morning rush-hour in the capital early January. His driver was also killed in the terrorist attack.” Yeah nothing there. Nothing to worry about.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 8:57:55 PM PST by dwg2
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To: bigheadfred

There is no doubt in my formerly military mind that Mossad has a better feel for what the Iranians are doing than the CIA does. What that means, to me anyhow, is they undoubtedly have information that they are not sharing with the US.

And why should they? Especially when they know that there is a good chance it will end up in Tehran — or on the evening news — the same day it’s shared.

Obama is worried about the election, Israel is worried about whether it can survive as a nation with a nuclear-armed Iran. They cannot afford to take the same level of chances.


23 posted on 02/23/2012 9:06:11 PM PST by Ronin (VOTE NEWT! He's Not Romney! Huh? He did?? Scratch that! GO SANTORUM!!!)
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To: roughman

It must be that annihilation thing that made for the oopsie involving the guy’s car. Certainly he wouldn’t have been part of a nuclear warhead program. Religion of peace and all that. I just realized why Mooshelle is all excited about peas. She got confused hearing about the religion of peas.

“Mostafa’s ultimate goal was the annihilation of Israel,” Fatemeh Bolouri Kashani told FNA on Tuesday.

Bolouri Kashani also underlined that her spouse loved any resistance figure in his life who was willing to fight the Zionist regime and supported the rights of the oppressed Palestinian nation.

Iran’s 32-year-old Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan Behdast, a chemistry professor and a deputy director of commerce at Natanz uranium enrichment facility, was assassinated during the morning rush-hour in the capital early January. His driver was also killed in the terrorist attack.”

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010175602


24 posted on 02/23/2012 9:09:04 PM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Then why are we joining all these other countries in imposing sanctions on Iran? You can’t have it both ways!

That was my thought. Either way...you are a BIG liar. You either lied in 2007 when you said they weren't making nukes privately but said they were publicly...or you are lying NOW when you say publicly we can't let them get nukes...but you release info that shows they really aren't.

Either way, someone's lying.

25 posted on 02/23/2012 9:12:23 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It really doesn't matter what Zer0 or his administration think or say. Israel will make the final decision on Iran's nuclear threat. Zer0 will find out when he starts seeing the mushrooms blooming over Tehran and the various nuke sites. Certain other Arab states will also get a stiff dose of reality from Iran's demise — or they can join Iran's fate.
26 posted on 02/23/2012 9:28:30 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose our new posture is, “better sorry than safe”? We can always apologize if we’re wrong. We do a lot of that these days.


27 posted on 02/23/2012 9:56:01 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: All

All this means is they have already established their warhead design so they shelved that part of their program in 2003. Now they are working on the more difficult part, producing the fuel for the warhead. The missiles are already perfected.

This is an intentional leak by the Obama administration to preempt Israeli action and whip up public opposition for stopping any action.

There will be no U.S. action against Iran while Obama is in the White House.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 10:03:24 PM PST by Walvoord
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The LAT now is just another Larry Sinclair for the Won.


29 posted on 02/23/2012 10:32:02 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: allendale

It ain’t up to obama.


30 posted on 02/23/2012 11:03:27 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course they would take this position. Obama wants Israel “balanced” by a nuclear Iran. It solves his problem: Israel will be forced to give up half its land for “peace”.


31 posted on 02/23/2012 11:26:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: Carthego delenda est

“Kill all Jews and annihilate Israel!’ Iran’s Ayatollah lays out legal and religious justification for attack
Doctrine says Israel would be wiped out in 9 minutes

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097252/Kill-Jews-annihilate-Israel-Irans-supreme-leader-lays-legal-religious-justification-attack.html#ixzz1nHl8YvHg


32 posted on 02/24/2012 12:21:03 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: All

Iran is dealing in Gold ONLY, just Qaddafi was wanting to do in Libya, doing away with USD and not allowing a Central Bank, like our Federal Reserve

if you look around, there are only about 3 countries not living with a foreign owned and controlled Central bank like our Federal Reserve

Iran is one of them, Syria is another


33 posted on 02/24/2012 12:45:04 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Yehuda

Iran’s Ayatollah is another in a long list of paid off mouth pieces


34 posted on 02/24/2012 1:29:47 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Yehuda

Iran’s Ayatollah is another in a long list of paid off mouth pieces


35 posted on 02/24/2012 1:31:44 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“How reassuring.”

Israel wouldn’t be taking out their scientists and sending viruses into their computers if they didn’t fear something. I’ll take the intelligence of their government over the intelligence of our government any day of the week.


36 posted on 02/24/2012 2:24:00 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

[IAF planes zoom through, drop bunker busters, Iranian nuclear sites blow sky-high] Neither does Israel.

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

Obama bin Lyin’.


37 posted on 02/24/2012 3:21:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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38 posted on 02/24/2012 4:38:14 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
and took a decade to notice that Osama bin Laden was sitting around watching porn right next to Pakistan's main military academy.

LOL
So true!

39 posted on 02/24/2012 6:12:28 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is a peaceful man who’s baking cupcakes for his dollies in a hardened underground bunker. Of course. When we get an invitation from Ali to attend a tea party, served with proper English finger sandwiches with the crusts neatly trimmed away, how foolish we will feel.

Ack!


40 posted on 02/24/2012 6:36:17 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: SF_Redux
SF_Redux wrote:
"Iran’s Ayatollah is another in a long list of paid off mouth pieces".

Who is paying him off?

THE JOOOOOOZ?


41 posted on 02/24/2012 11:10:22 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda

or the Jesuits


42 posted on 02/24/2012 11:38:31 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: SF_Redux

Dear FRiend:

Read the koran.
Change meds and /or drinking habits.

Good day.


43 posted on 02/24/2012 1:40:34 PM PST by Yehuda
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To: bigheadfred

RuPaul thinks we have no reason or proof to believe they’re building nukes. It’s interesting how he and Michelle Bachmann, both in Congress, have such different opinions on that. (Of course, she’s on the Intel Committee :-)


44 posted on 02/25/2012 8:45:12 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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