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Large Hadron Collider at CERN: Einstein 'was right all along'
The Telegraph ^ | 2/24/2012

Posted on 02/23/2012 11:33:26 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Physicists operating the Large Hadron Collider at the CERN laboratory near Geneva may have to rethink their claim that particles can travel faster than the speed of light after a source suggested that a bad connection affected the measurements.

They shocked the scientific world by claiming to have disproved Albert Einstein’s theory of special relativity.

But a report in the Science Insider journal claims that “a bad connection between a GPS unit and a computer” may have affected the reading.

Einstein's theory of special relativity, proposed in 1905, states that nothing in the universe can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.

But researchers at the CERN lab near Geneva claimed they had recorded neutrinos, a type of tiny particle, travelling faster than the barrier of 186,282 miles per second.

Scientists at CERN claimed that neutrinos arrived 60 nanoseconds earlier than the 2.3 milliseconds taken by light.

The report in Science Insider said the "60 nanoseconds discrepancy appears to come from a bad connection between a fiber optic cable that connects to the GPS receiver used to correct the timing of the neutrinos' flight and an electronic card in a computer. "

"After tightening the connection and then measuring the time it takes data

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 02/23/2012 11:33:28 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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2 posted on 02/23/2012 11:40:22 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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3 posted on 02/23/2012 11:42:08 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: bruinbirdman
Einstein 'was right all along'

Of course, he was an EINSTEIN.

4 posted on 02/24/2012 12:00:54 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: woofie
Is that an actual shot of their cabling? It looks like most of the server rooms I service........bird's nest.

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5 posted on 02/24/2012 12:02:14 AM PST by Viking2002
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To: woofie

Yeah, except it cost a million bucks.


6 posted on 02/24/2012 12:03:18 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: woofie
Well.....the science was settled for about 60 nanoseconds.

Damn it Jim, now hyper-drive won't exist.

But seriously, you look at the collider and then at the “get ur done” wiring.....goodness, how can anyone take any further announcements seriously from CERN.

I dunno.

7 posted on 02/24/2012 12:03:54 AM PST by Puckster
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To: bruinbirdman

Einstein could be wrong one day, but not today


8 posted on 02/24/2012 12:05:35 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: woofie

I am SO glad we got all this cleared up!


9 posted on 02/24/2012 12:12:52 AM PST by Bullish (Recovery won't begin until Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I had to read the headline twice.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 12:16:19 AM PST by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: bruinbirdman

My money was always on the old patent examiner.


11 posted on 02/24/2012 12:17:10 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: bruinbirdman
Physicists operating the Large Hadron Collider at the CERN laboratory near Geneva may have to rethink their claim that particles can travel faster than the speed of light after a source suggested that a bad connection affected the measurements.

LOL, yeah, right. Because CERN is, like, a buncha cables, see, and ya gotta go around tightening them all, or else the damn thing don't work.

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12 posted on 02/24/2012 12:17:41 AM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Puckster
"how can anyone take any further announcements seriously from CERN"

The God machine has a flaw?

yitbos

13 posted on 02/24/2012 12:25:30 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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There is a certain irony in these whiz kids calibrating their instruments with GPS, a system that retains it’s accuracy precisely through relativistic corrections.


14 posted on 02/24/2012 12:31:54 AM PST by SpaceBar
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But seriously, you look at the collider and then at the “get ur done” wiring.....goodness, how can anyone take any further announcements seriously from CERN.

I dunno.

Who in the aitch ee double hockey sticks did they hire to do that wiring? Cable TVs "r" Us?

'The lowest bidder' has struck again, it seems...

the infowarrior

15 posted on 02/24/2012 12:35:27 AM PST by infowarrior
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Come on folks, you don’t actually believe the pictures are of wiring at the Hadron Collider do you?

The first is a pix of some old electrical junction box.

The second one is obviously some cob-job done to a drop-in light fixture in a drop ceiling somewhere.

Jeesh people can be so gullible.


16 posted on 02/24/2012 1:09:41 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: bruinbirdman
"... They shocked the scientific world by claiming to have disproved Albert Einstein’s theory of special relativity."

The most humiliating part in being comically wrong about declaring Einstein's Theory of Relativity to be disproven is the part where all of your peers and colleagues derisively mock you every chance they get by referring to you as 'Einstein' at the end of every statement:

"Hey, did you check to see if the cable is plugged in this time, Einstein?"

Honestly, anyone with shame would resign rather than put up with that.

17 posted on 02/24/2012 2:01:11 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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all of your peers and colleagues derisively mock you every chance they get by referring to you as 'Einstein' at the end of every statement...

I hadn't thought of that. All of the Einstein paraphernalia showing up at the office (coffee mugs, calendars, screen savers, tee shirts). A party celebrating Einstein's birthday. You might literally never hear the end of it. And if you get mad, it's, "Hey, Einstein, lighten up."

Then they start calling you Neutrino Man, faster than a speeding photon.

Or, in honor of the bad connection, you become known as "Larry the Cable Guy's apprentice."

Yep, sounds like a career change is in order.

18 posted on 02/24/2012 2:54:37 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t know if I’d be strapping GPS receivers to electrons to measure their speed. Might not work too well.


19 posted on 02/24/2012 3:03:20 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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20 posted on 02/24/2012 3:29:47 AM PST by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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To: bruinbirdman

Never argue with Albert. He’ll just make you look foolish.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 3:37:17 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Amateurs.
22 posted on 02/24/2012 3:45:30 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: bruinbirdman
travelling faster than the barrier of 186,282 miles per second.

Obviously they were going downhill.....

23 posted on 02/24/2012 3:50:02 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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They were so overexcited about what they thought was a novel discovery, that they didn’t double check their instruments and measurements. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was an inexperienced grad student doing the experiment.

Scientists get incorrect results all the time, which is why we stress repetition. It’s wonderful to have a result that would change the current paradigm—but if it can’t be replicated, it’s worthless.

I hope those scientists at CERN learned their lesson!


24 posted on 02/24/2012 4:04:58 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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“60 nanoseconds discrepancy appears to come from a bad connection between a fiber optic cable that connects to the GPS receiver used to correct the timing of the neutrinos’ flight and an electronic card in a computer. “
Fiber optic? As in a cable that transmits data using light?
What could go wrong?


25 posted on 02/24/2012 4:32:42 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Pygmies trying to disprove a real scienctist.

Title: “Relativity: The Special and General Theory”

Author: Albert Einstein

Written: 1916 (this revised edition: 1924)

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30155/30155-h/30155-h.htm


26 posted on 02/24/2012 5:19:18 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: bruinbirdman

After spending umpteen-billion dollars to build the LHC, you’d think they’d use better cables than one can pickup at Radio Shack.


27 posted on 02/24/2012 5:44:30 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: bruinbirdman

My Buick is pretty fast so I challenged light to a drag race. We had to have the race in a vacuum, so the engine wouldn’t run. Stinkin’ cheatin’ light. We was racin’ for pinks. Now I’m walkin’.


28 posted on 02/24/2012 6:40:33 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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"They were so overexcited about what they thought was a novel discovery playing God, . . ."

yitbos

29 posted on 02/24/2012 1:57:34 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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How is trying to learn about and understand how things work playing God?

I doubt that God intended us to remain ignorant, or He wouldn’t have given us the capacity to learn and explore.


30 posted on 02/24/2012 5:13:16 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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