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Ryan Braun's 50-Game Suspension Overturned
ABC News ^ | February 24, 2012 | RONALD BLUM

Posted on 02/24/2012 1:44:59 AM PST by jellybean

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To: Haiku Guy

A 50 game suspension is not taking away everything he has.


41 posted on 02/24/2012 7:45:35 AM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: canuck_conservative
Oh right, because of the conspiracy among thoroughly-vetted MLB officials to get Ryan Braun. Just like the conspiracy among the LAPD and lab officials to frame OJ.

Good example... For me!

If the LAPD had used proper sample handling and Chain of Custody on OJ's blood sample, they may have convicted him. Instead, Detective Van Atter put the samples in his pocket and visited the crime scene. Later, when OJ's blood was found on the gate, the defense could point to VanAtter's actions, and suggest an alternate theory of how the blood got there.

If that sample had been handled properly, OJ's lawyers would have no plausible explanation of how the blood got there.

Given this and other stupid errors by the LAPD, the jury got it right and acquitted OJ.

42 posted on 02/24/2012 8:14:53 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: discostu
A 50 game suspension is not taking away everything he has.

It puts him in a one-strike-and-you're-out position, which would take away everything he has.

43 posted on 02/24/2012 8:25:27 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Haiku Guy

No, it would kick him out of the league, maybe, pending appeal, but he’d still get to keep everything he has.


44 posted on 02/24/2012 8:28:44 AM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Haiku Guy

I’ll admit I learned a lot from this thread - although getting those details from Jellybean was certainly like pulling teeth. Would have been much more useful if his initial post was more reporter and less cheerleader. But regardless, I’m now on the side that believes evidence points towards Braun being not guilty. However - what do you mean by one-strike-and-your-out? If he got hit with a 50 game ‘vacation,’ and then got caught sinning again, wouldn’t the next step be a 100-game suspension? Isn’t that what happened to Manny? And teams were still willing to take a chance on Manny, even with his diminished stats and increased mental retardation. Why would Braun be “out”?


45 posted on 02/24/2012 8:33:42 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: MNlurker
Good lord could you imagine if this was just a disgruntled Cubs fan...? LOL

I think there are a bunch of disgruntled Cubs fans posting on this thread!

46 posted on 02/24/2012 8:57:41 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
Maybe he was juicing EVERY year.

He's been tested multiple times throughout the years. There has never been a trace of PED. You're the one whose logic has failed.

47 posted on 02/24/2012 9:01:54 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: ObamaMustGo2012
Good news that a guy gets away with cheating?

Is that we are in this country now?

****

No, we live in a country where a part-time sample collector can violate drug testing protocol and store urine in his unsecure, personal fridge.

It is alleged that the sample purported to be Braun's contained 3x the highest level of artifical testosterone ever recorded in the history of the MLB testing program. A second Braun urine test administered a week later under proper protocol was 100% clean.

Braun exhibited no other symptoms (physical or emotional) of an individual that had consumed enough artificial testosterone to kill small farm animals. Braun claims that he did not take the testosterone and offered to submit a DNA sample to prove that either the initial urine sample was not his or that his DNA sample - which should still have had some trace of the testosterone - was in fact clean. It should be noted that all 3 player urine samples the collector obtained that day and stored at his personal residence contained traces of the artifical testosterone.

Given this set of facts, it is just as likely that a part-time collector screwed up his attempt to tamper with Braun's sample and sell a leaked story of an MVP's failed drug test to the media.

48 posted on 02/24/2012 9:13:23 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
...getting those details from Jellybean was certainly like pulling teeth.

Most of the details were in the original article from ABC -which is an AP source and can only be briefly excerpted. Per JR: All material from the Associated Press must be excerpted regardless of source (very brief excerpts).. Is it pulling teeth for you to click on the link at the top of the thread? I assumed (falsely it seems) anyone interested in the topic would have at least a passing familiarity with the controversy.

Why would Braun be “out”?

Braun is on pace to be in the Hall of Fame. Until he's completely exonerated, his nomination is in doubt.

I am a Braun cheerleader, btw.

50 posted on 02/24/2012 9:29:08 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: jellybean

The point is you would do better pointing out the facts that helped Braun’s case right off the bat as opposed to cheerleading. Besides you don’t nearly have the legs for it.


51 posted on 02/24/2012 9:34:26 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Besides you don’t nearly have the legs for it.

You're right! I'm a 58 yo female with bad knees. There's no way I would be able to do the cartwheels!

52 posted on 02/24/2012 9:40:40 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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this has comrade Selig’s fingerprints all over it..


53 posted on 02/24/2012 9:42:16 AM PST by newnhdad (Soylent green is people..)
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this has comrade Selig’s fingerprints all over it..

Really? Is that why the commissioner's office vehemently opposes the decision?

54 posted on 02/24/2012 9:45:12 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: MNlurker
Good lord could you imagine if this was just a disgruntled Cubs fan...? LOL

Sounds like somthing Obama would do. It's the "Chicago Way"

55 posted on 02/24/2012 9:54:52 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: All

Ryan Braun speaking now!


56 posted on 02/24/2012 10:03:32 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: jellybean

Hey - I’m sorry Jelly - you were being silly enough I assumed ‘guy’ - that was wrong of me.


57 posted on 02/24/2012 10:12:20 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: jellybean

Braun got off on a tecnicality. The test was positive. He’s no MVP. Let’s see what he does this year without the foreign substances in his system.


58 posted on 02/24/2012 10:14:20 AM PST by kenmcg (How)
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The test was 3X the amount of PED ever seen in any sample taken previously. Why did the collector bypass 18 Fed Ex offices that were open that day and take the sample to his house for the week end? Who had access to that sample? Did someone put something in the sample while it was sitting at the collector's house for 48 hours?

I'll bet his numbers this year will be close to his numbers from previous years.

59 posted on 02/24/2012 10:23:39 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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