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Democrats Are Praying for a Santorum Nomination
WSJ ^ | 24 feb 2012 | DOROTHY RABINOWITZ

Posted on 02/24/2012 6:01:02 AM PST by rellimpank

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1 posted on 02/24/2012 6:01:04 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Good. Let them send their minions out in MI to vote for Santorum and kill off Romney. Then we can have a conservative nominee in the fall one way or the other.


2 posted on 02/24/2012 6:02:46 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: rellimpank

May they get their wish. Democrats have always overplayed their hand. They will surely overplay this one. The only way to loose this election will be to abandon the conservatives, not denigrate them.


3 posted on 02/24/2012 6:05:40 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: cotton1706

Exactly.

Besides, I refuse to be manipulated by the left and frankly don’t care whether they think he’s an easy target or not. We stand a far better chance with him than we ever did with McCain.

People who don’t like it can go ahead and prove they’re marxists.


4 posted on 02/24/2012 6:06:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rellimpank

who do obama-loving democrats pray too, anyway? and what do they pray for? 5 more years of anti-religious, anit-American, anti-individual liberty, class warfare envy rousing affirmative action in the White House?

Is that like praying for a hurricane to hit a big city to damage a sitting president’s poll numbers??


5 posted on 02/24/2012 6:07:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: rellimpank

1) this is an indicator that they are really NOT wanting to face Santorum and

2) to whom are they praying?


6 posted on 02/24/2012 6:08:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: silverleaf

Hold up the mirror of the Law to the leftist ideology and you’ll find that it is the diametric opposite of every one.


7 posted on 02/24/2012 6:08:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: rellimpank

I’m praying for a Newt nomination.


8 posted on 02/24/2012 6:13:30 AM PST by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: rellimpank
Sour Grapes rationalization here. Santorum (or ANY other-than-Romney-the-RINO) Nomination will mobilize the American Citizens who are FED UP with the Progressive/Socialist/Communist Agenda...but it's too little, too late.

ALL the Democrat-installed handouts and takeovers cannot be un-done until a Conservative, Filibuster-proof Majority is installed in both Houses of Congress, and the USSC is rid of the parasitic-supportive Liberal plants there to handout Tax Dollars and trash the Constitution.

We will never see (most of us) another America that once was.

9 posted on 02/24/2012 6:13:53 AM PST by traditional1
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To: rellimpank

So long as Santorum remains on offense, he should have as good a chance as any other candidate. Granted, the chances of any opponent beating 0bama are horrendously slim, but the dragging of social issues into the spotlight has been needed for a long time. This country needs to take a hard look at itself.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 6:15:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: rellimpank

Don’t throw me in dat der briar patch!!!!


11 posted on 02/24/2012 6:16:55 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: cripplecreek

Amen brother. It’s sink or swim time.


12 posted on 02/24/2012 6:17:40 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Bingo.


13 posted on 02/24/2012 6:18:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: traditional1

“We will never see (most of us) another America that once was”

Very true, considering the non-taxpaying percentage in this country is at an all-time high of 49.5%. And that 49.5% LIKES it that way.


14 posted on 02/24/2012 6:20:21 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: cotton1706

No matter WHICH of the remaining four candidates, there is a separate but equal narrative making the rounds out there that “the DNC and the White House in the worst way” want so and so to be nominated. Fact is, probably their biggest hope would be in Romney. Having said that, they have an interchangeable narrative to beat up whomever is the nomineee. Santorum will get it. Newt will get it. Romney will get it. Paul will get it. It is time we deal with it, ignore what the Democrats say or want (sometimes it is also disinformation) and focus on our own race, pick the best, solid conservative, and be on with it. With enough elbow grease and a horrid economy by next November, any of the four remaining GOP Candidates will beat Barack Obama and THEY KNOW IT IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Now it is up to us that whomever goes on to beat Obama is the one we can most live with as our new Republican President.


15 posted on 02/24/2012 6:20:48 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Patience, my compatriots, PATIENCE! FR will be "Santorum Country" in a very short time, IMHO.)
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To: rellimpank
I often listen to Leftist talk radio on my drive into work, and I have heard them say the exact same thing about every front runner we've had in this election. They prayed for Perry, Cain, Newt, Mitt, and now Santorum.
16 posted on 02/24/2012 6:23:16 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: rellimpank
Democrats Are Praying for a Santorum Nomination

DemonRATS, praying in the same sentence? WTF?

DemonRATS are preying on the stupid; there I fixed it.

17 posted on 02/24/2012 6:24:25 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: rellimpank

Democrats pray? To whom?

Never mind. Let them pray.

Perhaps they’ll stumble onto some truth.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 6:25:23 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: rellimpank

Sure, that’s why the Democrat Propaganda Ministry is giving Mr. Santorum all this good press and proclaiming how “electable” he is. (/s)

You’d think “conservatives” would stop falling for this poppycock after a while, but you’d be wrong ...


19 posted on 02/24/2012 6:25:59 AM PST by Tax-chick (I used to be difficult, but after watching 46 episodes of "Lie to Me," I'm impossible!)
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To: rellimpank
How is it that so many 'economic conservatives' are incapable of acknowledging that social issues are extremely important to a very significant, and highly motivated, portion of the American electorate?

Why is it that social issues are the only set of issues that are considered mutually exclusive of all other issues, as if everyone else besides social conservatives are repelled by them?

Its not logical.

20 posted on 02/24/2012 6:27:25 AM PST by skeeter
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To: rellimpank; All

The person they really want most is Mitt Romney. They have been preparing their entire attack against him form the very beginning. Rick would give them a different challenge and they are scrambling for a way to go at him. It looks like they are going to paint him as an extremist and trip him up with women voters. I think that is the plan. I am still not sold on Rick Santorum as a national leader, but I am listening. So far, I am not impressed or excited. That is why I am still ‘all in’ with Newt. He can communicate the conservative message better than anyone running. Besides as all of us find out sooner or later, they all have baggage, yes even Mr. Santorum.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 6:27:31 AM PST by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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To: traditional1
We will never see (most of us) another America that once was.

Not until we have people who have the stones to say:

... In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free - if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending - if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained - we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! ...

22 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:22 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Steamburg

They did not overplay this hand in 2006, they very effectively painted Santorum as completely extreme and unacceptable, and Santorum lost his re-election bid by 17 points. I watched it happen folks, and nothing has changed with him between then and now.

This is exactly what I believe will happen in a national race, Santorum had no answer to this in 06, he’s got none now, and he will be trounced.

Santorum was rejected by PA voters after 2 terms in office for very very big and real reasons, the painting of it as simply, he endorced spectre, or it was a bad democratic year, are complete kool-aid drinking nonsense. He lost because the left targeted him, painted him as extreme, using his own words and deeds against him, and he had no answer to it, and was lambasted by an opponent that literally spent the campaign avoiding the public and saying anything.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:36 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: rellimpank

“it’s size will have doubled, at the least.”

“it’s size”. She writes for the Wall Street Journal and uses an apostrophe with it to denote the possessive.

I didn’t need to go any further. Such atrocious grammar screams “dim bulb.” Her wiki biography says she won a Pulitzer prize. Sheesh. Santorum is right. America really has gone to the devil when pitiful writing such as this garners a Pulitzer.

She is also given to over the top statements. I dislike Ron Paul but she went further and branded his supporters neo Nazis. Yet she is passed off as a conservative.

Probably hates Santorum because he is prolife and she hails from the Abortion capital of the world, New York City.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 6:31:23 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: rellimpank

Republicans have never lost running on values issues.


25 posted on 02/24/2012 6:31:23 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Maceman

You and me, both!


26 posted on 02/24/2012 6:32:50 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: skeeter

No it is not logical. I think many are trying to find a pathway to winning. And it seems that the fiscal concerns strike a concern accross the board with many, even beyond those who call them conservatives.

Rick should keep talking about social issues. Sometimes he has a way of speaking that comes across as negative and judgemental. He needs to work on that. Not drop them just learn to ariculate them in a way that he can help a broader spectrum of people to understand why he is trying to say. He is starting to and getting better everyday.

Many of us are both social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. Some of us believe the pathway to victory goes through the pathway of jobs, economy and the national debt.


27 posted on 02/24/2012 6:33:12 AM PST by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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To: dt57

Rick would not be a different challeng, Rick wouldn’t even cause team Obama a sweat. The game plan to take him out was written in 2006 and worked like a charm, and will work again in 2012 if he is the nominee, because nothing has changed.

Rick’s social conservative views are not the problem, his inability to effectively articulate them are, and the garbage that has come out of his mouth over the years, and continues to to this day provide all the fodder any oponent needs to paint him as radical and extreme and unacceptable to the general electorate. He’s got no chance in a national campain IMHO.

I will vote for whoever the Republican nominee is, but I truly believe, Santorum has no chance at all of winning a national election, even against the most inept adminstration of my lifetime.


28 posted on 02/24/2012 6:33:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: rellimpank
The term social conservative has become an insult, a character attack on a politician.

The values that Santorum holds close are sincere. Nobody questions that. They are the traditional values that that made this country great. The values of faith, family, honesty, patriotism and moral strength. They are the values that hold that life is precious and that we are put on this earth by our Creator for a purpose greater than our own self-gratification.

Most of the elites believe in nothing. Their only values are materialism and their own selfish desires. None of them can be trusted. They will say and do whatever is expedient. They will tell any lie to get ahead. They will watch good people get hurt and not care. They will bankrupt and destroy our great country and never even care.

They have consistently lied about anyone with character and integrity. They use the Saul Alinsky model of the politics of personal destruction. They are despicable people.

This is the last chance to save our great country. Unless the Washington elites are replaced America will be bankrupt and ruined. Just a few short years ago America was the richest nation on earth and the worlds only superpower. Now everyone says America is in decline and Americans must accept living in a weakened declining country. That we must accept an America where parents refuse to provide for their own children. Where criminals rule the streets and good people hide in fear. Where the hard working and successful people have everything they earn taken from them. They say we must live in America where religion must be hidden and only spoken of in private. Where homosexuals parade in all our major streets bragging about how proud they are of their unhealthy lifestyle.

The very future of our great country is at stake. If we allow ourselves to be dictated to by the elites, if we become ashamed of our moral values if we cower before the very people who are bankrupting this great country and reject the very principles that have made America great, then we are truly doomed.

29 posted on 02/24/2012 6:35:29 AM PST by detective
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To: rellimpank

I thought they were praying for Gingrich.


30 posted on 02/24/2012 6:37:11 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: skeeter

Social Issues when they are being articulated by someone who does not have the intellectual ability to articulate his stands on them well, are easily painted as hateful and petty.. This is exactly where Santorum is. He is incapable of articulating his social conservative views in ways that don’t look hateful and foolish. Lets not even get into the fact this guys not a amall government conservative...

I’ll vote for the nominee whoever it is, but I just see 2006 all over again if Santorum is the nominee, he will be painted effectively as a radical extremist and have no change of winning.


31 posted on 02/24/2012 6:38:07 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I have the same fear. But if he is the nominee I would like to try and help him and his supporters understand why even some of us that are dye hard conservatives are frustrated with him.

My own opinion is that Mitt Romney would be worse however. It is why I am ‘all-in’ for Newt.


32 posted on 02/24/2012 6:38:41 AM PST by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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To: rellimpank

2008: Republican’s are Praying for an Obama Nomination.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 6:41:45 AM PST by lwd
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To: dt57
Many of us are both social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. Some of us believe the pathway to victory goes through the pathway of jobs, economy and the national debt.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, as Reagan showed us. 'Reagan democrats' had no problem making common cause with the 'moral majority' back in the 80s.

Ms Rabinowitz was there, I don't know whats happened to her since.

34 posted on 02/24/2012 6:42:45 AM PST by skeeter
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To: HamiltonJay

When I hear him speak of social issues directly, and not through the media filter, I get a completely different impression.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 6:45:30 AM PST by skeeter
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To: HamiltonJay
--we seem to be on the same page-

-and I will vote AGAINST the Demo, even if the Republidunce candidate has horns, a tail, carries a funny-looking pitchfork and smells of sulphur---

36 posted on 02/24/2012 6:45:40 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: HamiltonJay
They did not overplay this hand in 2006, they very effectively painted Santorum as completely extreme and unacceptable, and Santorum lost his re-election bid by 17 points. I watched it happen folks, and nothing has changed with him between then and now.

This is exactly what I believe will happen in a national race, Santorum had no answer to this in 06, he’s got none now, and he will be trounced.

Of course you are correct, but unfortunately many people just don't want to hear it.

If Santorum is the nominee this election will turn on social issues - many that have been long since decided by the public. Rick's advisers will try to get him to steer clear of this stuff, but Santorum won't be able to stop himself from being baited over and over again. Instead of an election about massive debt, high gas prices, etc, we will be talking about rubbers, birth control pills, porn, whether a woman should be at home making lots of babies or working, etc.

Santorum would lose in a crushing landslide defeat and Obama would have the massive mandate he needs to truly "fundamentally transform America". But hey, if that happens, at least the social conservatives will have finally had their candidate and be forced to realize that politically re-fighting long lost culture war issues is a complete disaster of an idea.

37 posted on 02/24/2012 6:46:22 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: rellimpank

At this point in time 32 years ago they were lighting candles and praying novenas for Ronald Reagan’s nomination too. Santorum is certainly no Reagan, but Dems are delusional if they think most American voters will be more scared of a nice Catholic boy from western PA than four more years of Obama.


38 posted on 02/24/2012 6:46:31 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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Yes, I am sure they want a Santorum win.

That is why they are trashing him.

And why they trashed Newt.

And why they trashed Cain.

And why they trashed Perry.

And why they trashed Bachman.

The only one the media HAS NOT trashed is Romney- our supposed “most electable” candidate. Romney is the one they fear the most. The one they tell us could beat their guy for certain. “Oooh we would sure be scared if you guys run Romney” they say...
But yet they never go after Romney.


39 posted on 02/24/2012 6:46:31 AM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: skeeter

I lived those days, I was there as well. Rick Satorum is no Ronald Reagan, and if he started talking about social issues the way Ronnie did he would be fine. And I never said they were mutually exclusive. They clearly aren’t. But to build a coaltion in todays culture the pathway is clearly fiscal.


40 posted on 02/24/2012 6:47:04 AM PST by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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To: Mr. K

Not really true. The DNC has put out ads bashing Romney and sent out their surrogates like Debbie Was-a-man to bash him on talk shows. The media has reported on his Bain Capital background, his gaffes about bashing the poor, his tax returns, etc. Salon reported on some of the weird Mormon theories and on him paying off others for endorsements. The only media that’s been bashing all the candidates except for Romney is the mainstream “conservative” media like Drudge, Coulter, National Review, a lot of FOX, Bennett, Medved, Hewitt, etc.


41 posted on 02/24/2012 6:51:12 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: rellimpank

LOL, sure they are! !


42 posted on 02/24/2012 6:54:27 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: skeeter

Dorothy Rabinowitz is definitely not just an economic conservative. She talks about social/cultural issues on the FOX WSJ show and at least at one point she was praising Newt heavily. She perhaps correctly realizes that Santorum is a lightweight who will not be able to stand up to or deal with the criticism leveled against him, as he showed in the last debate.


43 posted on 02/24/2012 6:54:39 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: rellimpank

Frankly, when the Presidential election rolls around, we probably will have $5 -$6 dollar a gallon gasoline, and a war with Iran.

I think a ham sandwich could beat Obama, the Kenyan.


44 posted on 02/24/2012 6:57:06 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: cripplecreek
Besides, I refuse to be manipulated by the left and frankly don’t care whether they think he’s an easy target or not.

EXACTLT!!!!!!!

I will vote for the Republican nominee, regardless. No matter how bad, he would beat another 4 years of Bambi Hussein.

That being said, I can be very unhappy about it, and will do my best to ensure that the Rs nnominate a conservative. Then, let's see who has the bigger base, and the bigger turnout.

45 posted on 02/24/2012 6:57:51 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: skeeter

Also, last week on the FOX WSJ show, most of the panel was defending Santorum’s record and saying they did not think he was really a big-government guy, and they said they were happy that he voted against the unions more often than he voted for them. I was pretty surprised how bullish they were on Santorum’s economic record. The chick they had on was the only one criticizing him at all (not Rabinowitz), so it might be that social issues gender gap again.


46 posted on 02/24/2012 7:01:30 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: chesley

Plenty of people on both sides of the aisle said Reagan couldn’t win either.

Then they looked at their choices.


47 posted on 02/24/2012 7:02:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: HamiltonJay
Santorum has no chance at all of winning a national election, even against the most inept adminstration of my lifetime.

I agree except this administration is anything but politically inept. Demagoguery and class warfare politics are the only things it does well. I'm hoping that somehow Newt pulls off a miracle or that a strong candidate emerges in a brokered convention.

48 posted on 02/24/2012 7:02:33 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: rellimpank

Shame on you Dorothy Rabinowitz. you should know better.

I say bring it on. I jumped out of my chair in glee when Newt (finally someone)brought up the I word-infanticide.

IF the MSM wants to make birth control an issue then I say-I’ll see your birth control and raise you an Infanticide.

What are these unpalatable views of Santorum anyway- that marriage is between a man and a woman, that sticking surgical scissors through a baby’s head is immoral. that a child should have a mother and father who are married to each other.

If these views are truly unpalatable in America today, we are doomed and it doesn’t matter who becomes president.

Finally, despite the MSM narrative, the main issues will be, as always, economic issues-unemployment, deficits, gas prices etc

Look at the polling- Obama is rarely over 50%- all candidates, including Ron Paul are within striking distance.

I’m getting tired of the whining. There is much to be optimistic about.


49 posted on 02/24/2012 7:02:47 AM PST by almcbean
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To: MrB
This is just psycho warfare as practiced forever by dims... and dims pray to satan... even those that think that they pray to GOD. To be a dim in America today is to sell your soul to satan... even if you had no idea that you signed the contract.

LLS

50 posted on 02/24/2012 7:02:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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