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Koran riots prove itís time to quit Afghanistan
National Post.com ^ | Friday, February 24, 2012 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 02/24/2012 1:23:24 PM PST by canuck_conservative

.... The huge and outraged protests over the Koran burnings, though, show that all the reconstruction and training we are doing is having little last impact. The Afghans are as wildly fanatical and as far from democracy as they were a decade ago, or nearly so.

.... Rather, our own selfish security interests there are very small now and the amount of time and treasure it would take to lift Afghanistan from where it is now up into the civilized world makes the continued effort unwise.

Do any of the rioters know or care why the Korans were burned? They weren’t torched out of disrespect for Islam, although I’m sure that’s what the popular belief is. Taliban detainees at the Bagram base were using the holy books to pass messages back and forth amongst themselves about escape attempts and violence against their guards. As near as I understand Muslim reverence for the Koran, defacng a Koran by writing in it – especially messages of violence – is as great a defilement of Islam’s scriptures as burning the book would be. But have any of the rioters gotten hung up on that point?

And where were the fanatics three years ago when the U.S. military burned Bibles? Yes, Christian Bibles were incinerated by the U.S. army in Afghanistan in 2009. The Bibles, printed in Afghanistan’s two most popular languages, were sent by a church in the States in hopes they would be distributed to Afghan civilians. But military commanders ordered them burned rather than give Muslims the impression NATO forces where there to convert them to Christianity....

We have done what we can to save Afghanistan from itself. Let’s now leave those firebombing Western bases and killing Western troops to their own devices.

(Excerpt) Read more at fullcomment.nationalpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; islam; nato; taliban
Plus, we won't have to pay Pakistan its ransom any more for using its supply routes.
1 posted on 02/24/2012 1:23:34 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

No, we need to quit Islam all together..


2 posted on 02/24/2012 1:24:56 PM PST by cardinal4 (Bolton/Arpaio 2012 "Kick the UN across the border!")
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To: Clive; fanfan

Canadian Forces / NATO ping.


3 posted on 02/24/2012 1:25:30 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Leaving now hands the whole place back to the Taliban, just as leaving Iraq has allowed Iran to greatly overshadow the Islamic government that was allowed to be voted into power in that country.


4 posted on 02/24/2012 1:28:46 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The article points out that Yemen is the new launching-ground, with the last 4 major attacks planned from there.

Plus, with Afghanistan, Pakistan is raping us while laughing about it with their Taliban buddies.


5 posted on 02/24/2012 1:32:39 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Olog-hai

True, but so what? Trying to prevent another 9/11 has cost more lives than 9/11 itself. Leave. Let them stew. Kill as many as we can when they try something. Repeat as needed.


6 posted on 02/24/2012 1:34:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: canuck_conservative

Every time I see one of those mobs of vermin I visualize mini-guns pouring streams of justice into those mobs of homosexual pederasts, opium farmers, little girl molesters, wife beaters, and bearded fools.

The true injustice of the world is that this human detritus is allowed to breathe. One day I hope this country has the steel to rectify that situation.


7 posted on 02/24/2012 1:34:50 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: canuck_conservative

My solution for Afghanistan is pretty simple and will never happen.

It is readily apparent that the Afghans have no desire to live like civilized people in the modern world.

Hence it might be a good idea to give them the world they want to live in. Simply seal off the borders of that joke of a country and then bomb into scrap any vestige of technology. Cell tower- boom. Automobile- boom. Power station- boom. All of it goes bye bye, and they can have their medieval world once more in which to revel in their barbarian life style.


8 posted on 02/24/2012 1:35:16 PM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: canuck_conservative

We can go on youtube peeing on dead Taliban faces, but a porta potty rumor about Korans burning sets the whole country off? Whats that BS I smell?


9 posted on 02/24/2012 1:36:20 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: cardinal4

amen!


10 posted on 02/24/2012 1:36:44 PM PST by Irenic
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To: canuck_conservative

Pakistan is the problem.

They play both sides. Always have and we are too stupid to see it.


11 posted on 02/24/2012 1:39:09 PM PST by hadaclueonce (scrap copper is more than $3.00 a pound. wind generators are full of copper)
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To: Olog-hai

Like the Taliban isn’t running the place now? They are, to the extent anyone can run that pack of goat herding barbarians. We need to destroy every piece of infrastructure and leave. I give karzai 24 very unpleasant hours until he meets his maker. And that suits me fine.


12 posted on 02/24/2012 1:40:31 PM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: Olog-hai
Leaving now hands the whole place back to the Taliban,

That would depend what we do as we're leaving. Now if we're nuking and nerve gassing the entire stretch of Pak/Afghan border until nothing's left twitching then I'm fine with it.

L

13 posted on 02/24/2012 1:40:37 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Probably a case of “Get out there and riot with enthusiasm, or we’ll behead your wife and kids before your eyes, and then you.”


14 posted on 02/24/2012 1:46:25 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Olog-hai

I nominate you to go to Afghanistan until it becomes civilized.


15 posted on 02/24/2012 1:52:45 PM PST by EEGator
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To: cardinal4

No, we need to quit Islam all together..
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You can’t negotiate with crazy .. they need to die .. all of them.


16 posted on 02/24/2012 1:53:00 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: canuck_conservative

Afghanistan is a sorry mess whether we stay or go. Primitive savagery is who they are and likely will be for a long time.

Leaving would be a human rights disaster for millions, but we’re simply delaying the inevitable.


17 posted on 02/24/2012 2:02:11 PM PST by lurk
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To: canuck_conservative

If we can keep at least 1% of the friends we have made while being there, safely transporting them out of there before they are hunted down and killed will be difficult...Maybe Hillary can fly in and get them.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 2:19:29 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: canuck_conservative

Let them sink back into the 9th century. Trying to establish a democracy in a mussleman country is like placing a boat in a lake. When you remove the boat the water returns to fill the void.

The best we can do is to contain the mohammedan plague till it devours itself. Unfortunately we are letting this Dark Ages contamination into Western country to our own detriment.


19 posted on 02/24/2012 2:26:21 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: canuck_conservative

We are in Afganistan because there are bucket loads of strategic resources that EVENTUALLY will come in to play but history shows that it is foolish to be an invader there.(just ask the Russians)
Let the bastards there live in the 6th century, they are not worth our boys and girls lives.


20 posted on 02/24/2012 2:50:04 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Olog-hai

Come on Olog-hai,
Abandoning Mubarak, this whole mooselimb uprising and America abruptly leaving Iraq leaves only one faction to fill the political void. Muslim Brotherhood. Supported by Iran.
Guess them suadi,”royals”, are nervous about now!! (GOOD, f-em, most of them deserve to be roasted)
Were we to just leave these mooselimb crazy turds alone the shia and suni probably would just kill off each other.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 3:00:00 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: canuck_conservative; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Thanks for the ping, canuck_conservative


22 posted on 02/24/2012 3:00:27 PM PST by Clive
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To: Lurker

Fair question. I would say that the precedent was set in Iraq; it’d be great to be wrong about that . . .


23 posted on 02/24/2012 3:20:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Joe Boucher
Saudi royals nervous about the MB? Both are hardcore Wahhabi, last I looked.

Hoping for Sunni and Shi'a to kill each other off is a liberal myth, too.
24 posted on 02/24/2012 3:23:10 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I know, ultimately it will come to the west, China, and Russia taking a stand against islam.
ah ha ha ha. Ok. this just ain’t gonna happen. Too much money to be made.
Time for another crusade??


25 posted on 02/24/2012 3:32:57 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: canuck_conservative
Our work there is done. The best follow-up is to monitor by air the poppy fields. and when appropriate in the growth cycle, spray with powerful herbicides by drone. Take away the rat bastards' drug money and they will pull in their horns.
26 posted on 02/24/2012 5:28:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cyber Liberty
Kill as many as we can when they try something. Repeat as needed.

That's the problem. We don't do that.

This thing was treated as a war when it started, and then we started trying to "Win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people".

Since this IS a war, if we are not prepared to destroy them, they will keep coming back to harm us. Basic logic really, but it seems to elude our governments. It's so frustrating.

27 posted on 02/25/2012 2:37:34 PM PST by fanfan (This is not my Father's Ontario. http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/)
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