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Video: A C-5 Galaxy Air Launches an ICBM.
Defense Tech ^ | 3/1/2012 | Defense tech

Posted on 02/24/2012 5:14:32 PM PST by U-238

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1 posted on 02/24/2012 5:14:38 PM PST by U-238
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7SQ546xRk


2 posted on 02/24/2012 5:16:24 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

But I remember that we were in negotiations with the Russians when we did this. It really strengthened our negotiating position.

Unlike today when our statement department gives away the farm.


3 posted on 02/24/2012 5:17:35 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: U-238

Pucker factor for the crew was probably high.


4 posted on 02/24/2012 5:17:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: american_ranger

I agree with you


5 posted on 02/24/2012 5:18:32 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

What is to stop Iran/China/Russia from doing the same thing to the US ?


6 posted on 02/24/2012 5:18:40 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: U-238
What's so crazy about it?

I remember the test. It was the predecessor of all sorts of things: the Pegasus air launched orbital vehicle, the soon to be Stratolaunch vehicle, White Knight One and Two, and probably a lotta stuff we ain't heard about...for good reason.

Seems perfectly normal to me.

7 posted on 02/24/2012 5:19:16 PM PST by Regulator
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To: driftdiver

I would suppose the demo was done sans nuclear warhead. So they dropped a Minuteman — is that the heaviest thing they had dropped to date?


8 posted on 02/24/2012 5:19:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: UCANSEE2

Iran/China/Russia don’t need to. All of them can reach the US.


9 posted on 02/24/2012 5:20:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Bring the GAM-87 Skybolt back from mouthballs. Just replace the guidance with GPS.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 5:21:34 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238; KevinDavis

maybe we can get astronauts to the ISS that way? lol


11 posted on 02/24/2012 5:21:59 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: driftdiver

Try a LAPSE. Nobody leaves with dry shorts.


12 posted on 02/24/2012 5:24:07 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: U-238

Cool.

Poland and Hungary should get some of these.


13 posted on 02/24/2012 5:25:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: U-238

C5s are huge. I walked through one during a base open house and it was enormous. I was maybe ten so I didn’t exactly have an adult’s perspective but nevertheless, it was huge and since it was a SAC base, the B52s were off in the distance guarded by MPs so I didn’t have anything close to compare them with. As an adult, I tried to get into a B52 on static display at Travis, we got in the bomb bay but didn’t relish having the MPs escort us off the base or worse, tell my father. The point though is that the B52 although still enormous, wasn’t as big as I remembered.

If the Minuteman was capable from flying from Vandenberg to the USSR, the C5 could only add to the range and it was mobile!


14 posted on 02/24/2012 5:26:37 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: driftdiver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgg3iRaVnbw


15 posted on 02/24/2012 5:28:51 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: Lx
If the Minuteman was capable from flying from Vandenberg to the USSR, the C5 could only add to the range and it was mobile!
I agree.
16 posted on 02/24/2012 5:29:13 PM PST by U-238
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To: Lx

The range of a Minuteman Missile is 8055 miles or 7000 nautical miles


17 posted on 02/24/2012 5:31:25 PM PST by U-238
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To: Lx

I think perhaps the bit of trivia that best relates the dimensions of the Galaxy is the fact that the Wright brothers’ first powered flight at Kitty Hawk could have taken place within the cargo area of a C-5.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 5:34:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I think perhaps the bit of trivia that best relates the dimensions of the Galaxy is the fact that the Wright brothers’ first powered flight at Kitty Hawk could have taken place within the cargo area of a C-5.

I've also heard that you could fit 6 Greyhound buses in the cargo area as well.

19 posted on 02/24/2012 5:43:12 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (Newt's not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn't running this year. - shoff)
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To: american_ranger
Unlike today when our statement department gives away the farm.

We have an American hating administration now. A prime example of this is when we gave away the Eastern Europe missile defense, and got nothing in return, just to repudiate the Bush administration. Dang stupid. Could have been useful in negotiations, but presented as a gift. Weak, naive administration.

20 posted on 02/24/2012 5:48:29 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Joe 6-pack

Damn!


21 posted on 02/24/2012 5:52:11 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: U-238

I miss the Cold War. At least then we knew where the enemy was (Moscow) not (Washington DC).


22 posted on 02/24/2012 5:52:54 PM PST by bigbob
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To: U-238
If it works, it's not crazy, by definition.

And then it goes in the book under field expedient contengiencies.

/johnny

23 posted on 02/24/2012 5:55:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: patton
Unfamiliar with the term. Care to expound?

/johnny

24 posted on 02/24/2012 5:57:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: U-238

Wow...

You know, there are some meetings that it would’ve been a lot of fun to be a fly on the wall. This was likely one of them.

Another one would’ve been the meeting where somebody first proposed mounting 105 howitzer in a C-130...

“So let me get this straight... Wait... You wanna... what... Again?”

LOL


25 posted on 02/24/2012 5:58:15 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

See post 15 for video.

Sometimes, you could even use the tank.

But not that I ever saw.


26 posted on 02/24/2012 6:01:54 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: american_ranger
I have an old book on the US Air Force (late 70's or early 80's) in which they show plans for converting 747's into massive Tomahawk cruise missile launch platforms. B-52's can only carry 20 Tomahawks, but the 747's could hold 72 missiles on internal rotary launchers.

With the ready availability of parts and trained crews (both air and ground), I've often wondered why the Air Force never went with this plan.

27 posted on 02/24/2012 6:03:32 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: The_Media_never_lie
but presented as a gift. Weak, naive administration.

You apparently don't understand what is going on. First a question: Name ONE THING Obama has done to help America? He destroys businesses, is destroying the economy, he is driving oil prices up by preventing oil drilling and the pipeline.

You can easily name numerous things he has done to help the Muslims:

Egypt- Going to Muslim Brotherhood

Libya- Illegally used the US Military to attack and overthrow the government

Iraq- The withdrawal of US Forces is the green light to start the terrorist attacks to destroy the government

The real question is WHAT country is Obama's primary sponsor? I bet on Iran. You're probably waiting for CNN to tell you Obama is not a Christian.

28 posted on 02/24/2012 6:07:00 PM PST by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone th)
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To: patton
I've seen one of those in person, not with a tank, with other gear that broke off the pallet and created a FOD hazard.

I wasn't in MAC, so I didn't know the LAPSE acronym.

And yep. Just watching that will leave me puckered for the evening.

Didn't they ball up a C-130 doing one of those?

/johnny

29 posted on 02/24/2012 6:07:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: U-238

They suggested putting cruise missiles on rotary launchers inside 747s once, too. The Russian said that would make all 747s targets. The idea, while cool, was dropped.

30 posted on 02/24/2012 6:11:57 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

At least one, I am sure.

{{shudder}}

Actually, I spelled it wrong - LAPES

I cannot imagine the COG shift, when twenty-some TONS pops off the extreme rear or the ramp - but I bet the pilot pees himself.

“mother...”


31 posted on 02/24/2012 6:13:40 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: JRandomFreeper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqPDe-nZK6w

C130 LAPES bad day.

Prayers for all involved.


32 posted on 02/24/2012 6:19:39 PM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: PLMerite

I liked that idea too.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 6:21:34 PM PST by U-238
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To: patton
Found it. C-130 4325 at Bragg.

God bless the men that fly and fight. Training kills more pilots than combat.

/johnny

34 posted on 02/24/2012 6:21:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PLMerite
The Russian said that would make all 747s targets.

Didn't the CCCP shoot down KAL 007 from Alaska? Looks like we should have gone ahead, since they were going to shoot down 747s with passengers on board anyway.

/johnny

35 posted on 02/24/2012 6:25:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: U-238

It may have been dropped, but I think the whole point of the exercise was to show the other side that we could.


36 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:12 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Squawk 8888

I agree with you.Good point!!


37 posted on 02/24/2012 6:30:26 PM PST by U-238
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To: GeronL

“maybe we can get astronauts to the ISS that way? lol”

See StratoLaunch Systems.

http://www.stratolaunch.com/


38 posted on 02/24/2012 6:34:16 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Speaking of crazy but works (or probably would have if the war went another year):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk


39 posted on 02/24/2012 6:34:22 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Squawk 8888
That, I knew about by the code name. History channel used to rock, before the Hitler fixation and aliens.

/johnny

40 posted on 02/24/2012 6:40:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: patton

There was also a scheme at the same time called the “Ground Proximity Extraction System” which involved using grappling hooks tossed out the back of the aircraft to engage arresting cables on the ground to pull the cargo out of the aircraft.

That one didn’t go very far either; I believe it also cost several aircraft in the development process.


41 posted on 02/24/2012 6:58:53 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BwanaNdege

bump

thanks


42 posted on 02/24/2012 7:05:24 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thank goodness I still have the Military Channel though


43 posted on 02/24/2012 7:09:01 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: U-238; patton

Thanks very much for the links. WOW!


44 posted on 02/24/2012 7:11:19 PM PST by PGalt
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To: GeronL
I haven't had a TV for 10 years or so.

Truth be told, I'm listening to BBC World News on 9.460Mhz on the shortwave in the background.

I'd trust Radio Moscow before I trust ABCCBSNBCCNNetc...

/johnny

45 posted on 02/24/2012 7:14:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Stonewall Jackson; PLMerite

If you have not yet read the book Flight of the Old Dog by Dale Brown I strongly urge you to do so.

Imagine a 767 equipped as a flying battleship.

I think you would enjoy it quite a bit.

Cheers,

knewshound


46 posted on 02/24/2012 7:17:11 PM PST by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: JRandomFreeper; BwanaNdege; Squawk 8888

Thanks for those links...dangerous; interesting; conscientious objectors (back in the day even they did something productive).


47 posted on 02/24/2012 7:22:42 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Lx
If the Minuteman was capable from flying from Vandenberg to the USSR, the C5 could only add to the range and it was mobile!

The big benefit was that it was mobile. Silo-based missiles were vulnerable to a surprise first strike. Bombers could be kept aloft, invulnerable to a first strike, but bombers would then have to be able to penetrate enemy air defenses.

A C-5 would have the benefit of a bomber (could be launched on first indication that a strike was imminent, and be called back if it was a false alarm) along with the advantages of an ICBM (hard for an enemy to stop once launched)

48 posted on 02/24/2012 7:29:36 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
but the 747's could hold 72 missiles on internal rotary launchers. With the ready availability of parts and trained crews (both air and ground), I've often wondered why the Air Force never went with this plan.

If you were an airline executive, or Boeing, would YOU want the Soviets to always be unsure as to whether any given 747 flying near the USSR was really a strategic launch platform?

49 posted on 02/24/2012 7:33:48 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: JRandomFreeper

BBC is pretty dang biased too aren’t they?


50 posted on 02/24/2012 7:37:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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