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Exclusive: RFK's Son Arrested in Westchester Hospital Maternity Unit Clash, Police Say
NBC ^ | | Friday, Feb 24, 2012 | Updated 10:58 PM EST | Jonathan Dienst and Shimon Prokupecz

Posted on 02/24/2012 8:11:38 PM PST by Hunton Peck

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To: Figment

No Douglas is #10 born March, 1967 he was only a little than a year old when his dad died. His sister, Rory, is the youngest. I can remember when she was born and people thought it was sweet Ethel chose that name for her. She was the one getting married that weekend JFk, Jr. stupidly decided to fly a single engine cessna over water in the dark when he wasn’t experienced enough to do so. Even if dad had a valid reason for wanting to take son home, kicking a nurse is way out of line and he should do time for it. Too bad. He seemed like one of the few decent ones in that family.


101 posted on 02/24/2012 11:07:30 PM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
The hospital didn’t want to release us with our third child because we didn’t have an infant carrier carseat. We had a convertible carseat that was already strapped in the car. They said policy was that she had to be strapped into her carrier carseat and placed on my lap in the wheelchair to be wheeled out to the car. I told them I wasn’t going to send my husband out to buy a carrier seat just so I could follow their policy and that I was leaving whether they discharged us or not. I carried my baby in my arms out to the car and put her in the carseat. It was ridiculous!

Had a very similar "run-in" with a nurse here in Germany regarding the release of our first-born. They had no objection to our walking out of the hospital with the baby in our arms, but insisted that we couldn't legally drive the baby home without a "registered" babyseat.

Regards,

102 posted on 02/25/2012 12:14:12 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Boogieman

Oh I would say they got it about 100 years ago. That fake doc was an ER board cert person not an OB. He may not even work in that ER. If he did he is in for a lot of medical board action.


103 posted on 02/25/2012 12:31:36 AM PST by Domangart
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To: fr_freak

I’m sure the nurses are following the hospital’s policy, which is in place for their protection against lawsuits. What if Mr. Kennedy left the hospital with the infant without a medical escort and then dropped the infant, causing serious injury or even death. Who do you think would get blame?

Also, there are many unanswered questions in the story. Was Kennedy acting irrational or under the influence of something, which alarmed the nurses? Was the child in the hospital for tests or extra medical treatment, since most hospitals let the mother and infant go home the next day after giving birth? Where was his wife while this was taking place?

Just my opinion: I always thought he was a dull reporter on Fox-—wooden and monotone, hired for his name and not his talent. Hello, Chelsea Clinton.


104 posted on 02/25/2012 12:40:54 AM PST by dupree
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To: petitfour
Dad has every right to take his child out of the hospital. The hospital does not have ownership.

I'm with you.

God bless the doctor for allowing us to leave with our baby the following morning, born at 7:30PM the previous evening, even though he had young ones waiting at home one precious Christmas morning over two decades ago.

The ladies' auxiliary had made HUGE red stockings for us to carry our little "gifts" home!

105 posted on 02/25/2012 12:57:06 AM PST by b9 (Newt is substance. The others are talking points)
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To: Figment

He kicked the nurse because there was no body of water to drown her in.


106 posted on 02/25/2012 1:17:19 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: dupree
I’m sure the nurses are following the hospital’s policy, which is in place for their protection against lawsuits.

I don't actually care what excuse these people have for acting as petty tyrants. Hospital policy? That doesn't even have the force of law, and nurses aren't law enforcement even if it did. However, the idea that we should accept something because it's "policy" is worse than the idea that we should accept something because it's "settled law". If it is anathema to a free country, it needs to go away. Period. Think Obamacare.

I'll agree that there may be more to this story, but the guy was still the baby's father, and absent any hard evidence to suggest that this guy was incompetent to hold his own child, the natural reaction of conservatives should be "Who the hell do these people think they are?"
107 posted on 02/25/2012 2:15:24 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: Krankor
By voluntarily entering a hospital- especially in a non-emergency situation, you pretty much agree to the rules of the hospital.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is extremely naive, not to mention lucky to have missed the teaching moment.

Indeed I would go further. They are control freaks and you effectively have no rights in a hospital. Do it their way or else. Or else they call security which always takes their side; and if a child is involved they can immediately issue an opinion by a doctor that the child is at risk -- merely at risk of abuse, and then the child is THEIRS. Try to leave or stand on any of your so-called rights, and you will be taught an unforgettable lesson.

The only measure that might possibly work is to announce that you will not pay the bill if they do not let you leave. But you have to say it nicely to somebody way up on the food chain.

This guy is a member of the Clan Drunkennedy, so he was probably out of line before he kicked the nurse. Still, if you want to experience something you can tell your great-grandchildren in a PTSD cold sweat, try exercising your parental rights in a hospital maternity ward. Go ahead, make your family a legend.

108 posted on 02/25/2012 3:14:05 AM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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To: Boogieman
Sorry, but the “rules of the hospital” don’t override my liberty and civil rights.

Sorry but they do.

They’re not my legal guardian, and they’re certainly not the legal guardian of my children

All it takes is the stroke of a pen by a medical practitioner. You are effectively non compos mentis and your child effectively a ward of the state. I'm not talking abstract, just real world. Try it. It will unseal your eyes.

109 posted on 02/25/2012 3:24:29 AM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Perhaps the hospital was going to run a drug test on the baby.....


110 posted on 02/25/2012 4:13:49 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Craftmore

...”Im more interested in knowing exactly why he couldnt take his child in the first place.Hospitals now refuse to let you take your newborn unless you allow them to administer immunizations.Many people think these contribute to autism.Is that the possible reason?Kennedys have never been my favorite people but I want to know more before condeming him”...

I am thinking the government mandated immunizations had something to do with this. Is it possible a Kennedy has responded to a “Nanny State” mandate forced upon hospitals?


111 posted on 02/25/2012 4:14:53 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Lady Lucky

And if Kennedy had manged to get the baby out of the hospital and he was drunk and the baby was injured or killed, you damn well better believe the mother would scream like a banshee and demand to know, “Why the hell did you let him take my baby out of the hospital. The man’s a Kennedy!”


112 posted on 02/25/2012 4:16:25 AM PST by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: DesertRhino

I know that is true, but he didn’t say he was withdrawing the baby from their care, just taking a walk. You can’t just “take a walk” outside while the baby is under the care of the hospital. The hospital is still responsible for the child and has a say. If he was taking the child from their care, I’d back him up 100%, but just walking outside, possibly endangering the child’s life? No.


113 posted on 02/25/2012 4:19:35 AM PST by Shimmer1 (If love were oil, I'd be a quart low)
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To: Craftmore

Im more interested in knowing exactly why he couldnt take his child in the first place.


Where is the law that is written that hospitals have the right to “kidnap” your child or restrain them without due process?

Absolutely no one has the right to prevent a father or mother from the right to remove their child from any place, time or for any reason.

All of this hoopla about human rights....that includes babies doesn’t it? You would think so but on this matter.....crickets chirping.

As a “kicker” to this story I hate all of the Kennedy clan.


114 posted on 02/25/2012 4:20:50 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: CaptainK

Your forget to mention sexual harassment and rape.

“Stand By Your Kennedy, they are all gods you know.”


115 posted on 02/25/2012 4:23:52 AM PST by BilLies ( It's Black History Month..Don't forget the 330,000 White Northerners who died 1861-5 to Free Slaves)
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To: Outlaw Woman

...”First it was the social security number that was mandatory in a hospital; now it’s immunizations. The nazification of the U.S.A. and health care system is almost complete”...

Agreed! Let’s do not let our resentment of the harm the Kennedy’s have done to this country fall on all of them. Perhaps some are beginning to understand that they do not want to live in a communistic society. Let’s also understand that rebellion towards corruption often comes from the “inside.” It is quite clear that the hospital was keeping him from claiming his child..Why else would he have chosen to come and take the baby by force? Much more needs to be known about this.


116 posted on 02/25/2012 4:24:08 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Craftmore
Im more interested in knowing exactly why he couldnt take his child in the first place.

Liability.

117 posted on 02/25/2012 4:24:44 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Hunton Peck

Did they give him a breathalizer test?


118 posted on 02/25/2012 4:26:11 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Hunton Peck

Do you know who I am? /s


119 posted on 02/25/2012 4:31:45 AM PST by rightly_dividing (You cannot put a gun rack in a Volt !)
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To: wintertime

At last a sensible and reasonable statement.
For a while I thought I was visiting “George Noory’s Wacko to Wacko AM” radio show.


120 posted on 02/25/2012 4:34:14 AM PST by BilLies ( It's Black History Month..Don't forget the 330,000 White Northerners who died 1861-5 to Free Slaves)
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