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The Smith LENR Prize
eCat News ^ | 2/25/2012 | eCat News

Posted on 02/25/2012 4:41:46 AM PST by Johnny B.

It is well known within LENR circles that Australian Entrepreneur, Dick Smith, is scathing of Andrea Rossi’s eCat claims. After Rossi refused his offer of a $1m (US) challenge, he extended that offer to Greek company Defkalion GT who are making similar claims. Mr Smith’s offer was an attempt to expose the fraud he is certain these people are perpetrating.

(Excerpt) Read more at ecatnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; defkalion; lenr; rossi; seagullthread
After being rejected by Rossi ("too busy" and "doesn't need the money"), and after the same offer was stalled by Defkalion's requirement that he sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement, Australian entrepreneur Dick Smith, is now offering $1 million to any LENR developer who can demonstrate a device producing 1 Kilowatt of power generation.

He has stated that he will accept the judgement of any credible organization regarding whether a device meets his requirement.

1 posted on 02/25/2012 4:41:50 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo

Ping


2 posted on 02/25/2012 4:44:24 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Kevmo; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; ...
LENR courtesy ping.

In other news, the public testing by "seven well-known labs" was supposed to have started yesterday (2/24), but there has been no public information of any sort released. This is in contradiction to their earlier promises to release both the test protocols and the identities of the "well-known labs" prior to the beginning of testing.

3 posted on 02/25/2012 4:47:34 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
Sorry, I left out that the testing by the seven "well-known labs" refers to Defkalion.

I notice that they are now stating that the "well-known" labs have the option of keeping their identities secret. So, I guess we would just have to take Defkalion's word that they were "well-known" labs... or that there were any labs at all.

4 posted on 02/25/2012 4:54:23 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
Could it be that this is the transformational energy source that would eliminate the need for oil that Obama is banking on?

If proven then Obama would not be the eCatastrophe that we think.

(see tagline)

5 posted on 02/25/2012 5:08:00 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
What we really need is the Turbo Encabulator!

LINK

6 posted on 02/25/2012 5:24:10 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

Wow, whoever wrote that article is either a True Believer, or is armpit deep in the scam.

I’m not at all surprised that Rossi and Defkalion came up with excuses as to why they couldn’t take the $1,000,000. I find it especially laughable that Rossi—a man with no known source of income, who supposedly sold his house to raise funds—”doesn’t need the money.”


7 posted on 02/25/2012 5:28:14 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Johnny B.
Meanwhile the paradigms of effusive and excessive praise for Lennie (Low Energy Non Nuclear Improbable Expectations)) keep falling.

The investors? take over Leonardo Corp. so if any money comes in they'll be able to dip their beaks a little. Who knows, maybe Big Blue, the Elephant in the warehouse will be sold (and delivered!).

But Dick Smith could use his million bucks to just buy a 1 Mw e-cat, couldn't he? Therein lies the problem, we already know the only one in existence won't produce 1 Mw.

Rossi’ Italian Opera is tiring of the fat lady.

8 posted on 02/25/2012 5:30:58 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Meanwhile the paradigms of effusive and excessive praise for Lennie (Low Energy Non Nuclear Improbable Expectations)) keep falling.
LENNIE! LOL!
9 posted on 02/25/2012 5:33:42 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
What we really need is the Turbo Encabulator!

Oh, that was so funny!

I'm afraid that I sound like that sometimes, when I'm trying to explain my scientific research to people. Except that I have a female voice, and I wave my hands around more.

10 posted on 02/25/2012 5:33:50 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

No, the o has decided to go with the little green stuff that grows in my fish pond...or train more guinea pigs that can say, “row”.


11 posted on 02/25/2012 6:12:44 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: saganite

Thanks for the ping.

For some reason, Vortex-L is unusually quiet about this. I usually like what Jed Rothwell has to say. Here’s what he said earlier about Dick Smith:

2012/02/17 I predict that Dick Smith will find an expert who will say: there are no neutrons, so there is no fusion. That will be the last we hear from him. — Jed Rothwell


12 posted on 02/25/2012 9:04:20 AM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Kevmo
For some reason, Vortex-L is unusually quiet about this. I usually like what Jed Rothwell has to say. Here’s what he said earlier about Dick Smith:

2012/02/17 I predict that Dick Smith will find an expert who will say: there are no neutrons, so there is no fusion. That will be the last we hear from him. — Jed Rothwell

That's an unfair assessment by Rothwell. Dick Smith has stated several times that he would be happy to let any reasonable experts decide whether his claim has been met. He has specifically mentioned Kullander and Essen as acceptable judges.

Meanwhile, Rothwell has made numerous statements claiming "certain knowledge" that they are legitimate, but he refuses to name any of his sources, so we are expected to rely totally on his "say-so".

He, of course, has also committed to Rossi's demos being legitimate, so if either one turns out to be a fraud, his credibility will be shot.

13 posted on 02/25/2012 9:09:21 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
You can't call Rossi a fraud.

He's going to revolutionize energy.

Ten years from now nobody will need gasoline or oil or coal or nuclear or anything.

We will all have little Rossi generators doing it all for us.

Honest.

14 posted on 02/25/2012 9:09:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: Johnny B.

He lost me after “dingle arm.”


15 posted on 02/25/2012 9:18:22 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: Johnny B.

• Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Johnny B.
This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. You’ve proven you’re just here to harass; you have demonstrated that you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2832338/posts?page=51#51


16 posted on 02/25/2012 9:21:21 AM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: count-your-change
"Rossi’ [sic] Italian Opera is tiring of the fat lady. "

It appears the fat lady is sing a dirge...

17 posted on 02/25/2012 9:36:03 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Johnny B.
Meanwhile, Rothwell has made numerous statements claiming "certain knowledge" that they are legitimate, but he refuses to name any of his sources, so we are expected to rely totally on his "say-so".

Rossi says.
Rothwell says.

Both are just as good as coming down from the mountain inscribed on stone tablets as far as the egomaniac is concerned.

18 posted on 02/25/2012 9:47:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo

“you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.”

I am not sure how you spamming FR with blogs and claiming they are “news” is what FR intended.


19 posted on 02/25/2012 10:22:41 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Kevmo
Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Johnny B.
Yes, Kevmo, we get it. You're childish and petulant.

You don't have to keep reminding us.

20 posted on 02/25/2012 10:50:21 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: CodeToad

I haven’t heard from Toad in a while.

• Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Code Toad.
This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Since you have degenerated into unsubstantiated accusations of calling a fellow Freeper a liar (and a liberal) without backing it up, you have demonstrated that you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2815573/posts?page=17#17


21 posted on 02/25/2012 11:21:05 AM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Johnny B.; Admin Moderator; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; ...

• Admin moderator:
What does it take to get someone to stop stalking an entire “courtesy” ping list of Freepers?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1888013/posts
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22 posted on 03/12/2012 3:37:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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