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22 Carnival Cruise passengers robbed at gunpoint on ship-sponsored tour in Mexico
MSNBC ^ | 2/25/12 | Dan Askin

Posted on 02/25/2012 8:07:14 AM PST by jimbo123

Twenty-two passengers on Carnival Splendor were robbed at gunpoint Thursday while on a ship-sponsored tour in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico.

At least one Mexican media outlet said the passengers were returning by bus to their ship at approximately 5 p.m. after spending time in El Nogalito, a tourist area known for its lush natural setting. Masked assailants stopped the bus and robbed the cruisers of their money, watches, cameras and other valuables.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carnivalcruise; cruises; mexico; puertovallarta
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1 posted on 02/25/2012 8:07:17 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: zot; The Shrew

Ping.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 8:10:14 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: jimbo123

Our future.


3 posted on 02/25/2012 8:11:56 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

Obama will apologize to the banditos.


4 posted on 02/25/2012 8:14:52 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

You have to avoid the west coast of Mexico. HEAVY drug and crime area. Most cruise lines have pulled out and those remaining have cut back their destinations.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 8:18:50 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: jimbo123

My guess is we won’t be seeing these people on the Mexico Taxi Project commercials.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 8:19:00 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: jimbo123
When will people learn...there is a reason most of the cruise lines have pulled out of San Diego and will not go to Mexico.

I wonder what the bus driver's cut was?

Have we not been saying how unsafe anywhere in Mexico is? People that just want a cheap cruise now see why it was so cheap.

7 posted on 02/25/2012 8:21:07 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: jimbo123

Hint:

Avoid Mexico.

Conceal carry in America.


8 posted on 02/25/2012 8:23:21 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: rstrahan

Years ago, wife and I liked to visit Ixtapa after Christmas. Inexpensive, fun, warm and safe. Not any more.


9 posted on 02/25/2012 8:24:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: CAluvdubya

Smells like a setup.


10 posted on 02/25/2012 8:25:43 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Another reason why I hate Mexico and it’s people. What do you suppose the situation is going to be like in that crap-hole in five more years?


11 posted on 02/25/2012 8:26:04 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jimbo123

Just part of the Mexican entertainment.


12 posted on 02/25/2012 8:26:14 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We visited Ixtapa several times while stationed in Mexico City back in the 90s. Thought it was heaven on earth, but I wouldn’t go back there now on a bet.


13 posted on 02/25/2012 8:27:16 AM PST by Ax
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To: jimbo123

Part of the itenerary, I’m sure.

9:00 see old things.

12:00 lunch

2:00 Visit museum

4:00 Shopping

6:00 Get robbed by desperados

8:00 Dinner show


14 posted on 02/25/2012 8:29:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: jmacusa
What do you suppose the situation is going to be like in that crap-hole in five more years?

What do you suppose the situation is going to be like in most U.S. urban areas in five more years?

15 posted on 02/25/2012 8:31:20 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: jimbo123

Great comments there. Unusual for msnbc.com.


16 posted on 02/25/2012 8:32:13 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: jmacusa

More third world hell.

And then the “immigration standards” (whatever the hell those are) will be relaxed (with the full cooperation of the Mexican government and both sides of ours) for “humanitarian purposes.


17 posted on 02/25/2012 8:33:11 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: jimbo123

Poll from the site:

Would you take a vacation in Mexico?

No — it’s dangerous. 87%

Yes — this is an anomaly. 13%

Total Votes: 10966

That 13% has to be liberals

Other links there tell the story:

Puerto Vallarta says it’s safe despite Princess canceling calls

Mexico looks for rebound in U.S. tourists

Time to say adios to Mexico travel?

Beware the hard sell at vacation resorts


18 posted on 02/25/2012 8:34:22 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: jimbo123

Question: Why are some countries hell holes and some countries are not ?

Answer: Because of the people who live there.


19 posted on 02/25/2012 8:36:26 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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Would you take a vacation in Mexico?

No — it’s dangerous.
87%
Yes — this is an anomaly.
13%
Total Votes: 11087


20 posted on 02/25/2012 8:37:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ax

We lived in the Twin Cities area in those days. It was 20 days of 30 below or 30 days of 20 below. Ixtapa was a life-saver !


21 posted on 02/25/2012 8:37:48 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: jimbo123

“I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ badges!”


22 posted on 02/25/2012 8:38:04 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: jimbo123

There is little difference between what these highway men did to the 22 cruise passengers and what Barack Obama does to a hundred million working Americans.

At the core it is all wealth redistribution.

One difference is that the highwaymen had the guts to confront their victims openly and personally and to wield their own weapons. They are undisguised, self-admitted crooks and theives.

But Obama hides behind his oily and lofty socialist rhetoric and uses the power of the federal government to extort our hard earned money.


23 posted on 02/25/2012 8:38:04 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: jimbo123

Stay out of Mehico, my friend.


24 posted on 02/25/2012 8:38:13 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: jimbo123

Frito Bandito?


25 posted on 02/25/2012 8:39:59 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: jimbo123

30 years ago I put in a stint as a Travel Agent. My boss, who had been in the business for another 30 years, told me at that time to steer clear of Carnival. She said they were a sloppy organization and she refused to book clients on their cruises.

Note that the Costa Concordia (the sunken Italian cruise ship) was owned by Carnival.


26 posted on 02/25/2012 8:43:34 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Oatka

Puerto Vallarta says it’s safe despite Princess canceling calls

Last time I was in Puerto Vallarta there was a cop or soldier armed with a machine gun on most corners.

It wasn't considered safe for tourists to wander too far from the Malecon after dark.


27 posted on 02/25/2012 8:44:45 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t people pay to see phony pirates, sharks and bandits? No one was hurt, so their loss is simply the price of admission.


28 posted on 02/25/2012 8:45:12 AM PST by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: jimbo123

Welcome to Mejico, Amigos. Give us all your stuff and have a nice day...


29 posted on 02/25/2012 8:45:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: artichokegrower

30 posted on 02/25/2012 8:45:26 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

There are a number of cruise ship “port of calls”at I would say it’s unsafe to get out of sight of your cruise ship. Number 1 would be St. Thomas in the US Virgin Islands, after that it would be, in no particualr order, Labadee, Haiti, Willemsted, Curacao and Aruba.


31 posted on 02/25/2012 8:50:17 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: jimbo123

Cruising has to be the biggest waste of money ever, other than donating to the Obama re-election campaign.

I tried posting at the most popular cruising forum and was treated just like a Titanic steerage passenger.

They especially got all upset when I laid the horrors of all horrors in a thread, that I was building my own sailing vessel!


32 posted on 02/25/2012 8:55:52 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: jimbo123

We’ve been talking about booking a cruise for next year; it makes a stop in Mexico. I’ve had a hard time convincing my traveling companions that Mexico isn’t safe. This gives me a very good example of exactly what I’m talking about. It may only be this one (so far), but the bad guys have just proved it can be done. Expect more.


33 posted on 02/25/2012 8:56:53 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: jimbo123

“According to informador.mx.com, the bandits have yet to be apprehended.”

And probably never will be.


34 posted on 02/25/2012 8:59:35 AM PST by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: jsh3180
Number 1 would be St. Thomas in the US Virgin Island ... Labadee, Haiti, Willemsted, Curacao and Aruba.
My son got married three years ago and wanted to honeymoon in the Carib.
During the research, he found hundreds and hundreds of warnings about almost every island down there.
He ended up in Curacao and said daytime was fine, but spent night time in the hotel.
35 posted on 02/25/2012 9:02:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Revised (original was incomplete)

Part of the itenerary, I’m sure.

9:00 see old things.

12:00 lunch (Get robbed by locals special pricing for cruise tourists)

2:00 Visit museum (get robbed by Carnival Tours)

4:00 Shopping (get robbed by Carnival Company store)

6:00 Get robbed by desperados

8:00 Dinner show (get robbed by high priced Carnival Drinks)


36 posted on 02/25/2012 9:04:11 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: jimbo123

I’d just as soon spend my money on a cruise down the White River from Cotter, Arkansas, fishing for trout.


37 posted on 02/25/2012 9:08:27 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: FourPeas

Remember this: Stupid is what stupid does.

Don’t go.


38 posted on 02/25/2012 9:08:48 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: jimbo123

Welcome to Mexico! Put your valuables in the basket before you leave. Gracias.

39 posted on 02/25/2012 9:09:23 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Manzanillo was our fav playground. We went twice a year for many years. Sigh
Haven’t been in forever.


40 posted on 02/25/2012 9:10:21 AM PST by sheana
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To: jimbo123

When you have American guns courtesy of Obama and Holder, you need to use them against Americans, don’tcha know.


41 posted on 02/25/2012 9:12:17 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: oh8eleven

If you ever get the chance, the smaller islands of the Bahamas are heaven.


42 posted on 02/25/2012 9:13:45 AM PST by sheana
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To: jsh3180
I've been to just about every Eastern Caribbean island, and I think I could enumerate your list in order of 'unsafe to get out of sight of your cruise ship'.

Haiti would be my #1, because you certainly don't want to roll through there without your column of USMC AmTracs and LAV-25s if you go out of sight of your LHD.

Now, St. Maarten on the Dutch side. That was nice.

43 posted on 02/25/2012 9:14:31 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: jimbo123

My sister and her husband and occasionally the grown kids go to PV frequently. She thinks she knows everything, when I once asked her about the safety issue now in Mexico, she says “oh, its’ perfectly safe where we go”........keep thinking that sweetheart.


44 posted on 02/25/2012 9:16:48 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: jimbo123

As a follow-up to my previous post, my brother-in-law is from Honduras and they would usually vacation there once a year. Honduras has now become so dangerous that they won’t ever go back. He even has a half brother whose family finally left and is now living in Texas (legally).....


45 posted on 02/25/2012 9:26:50 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Visited Lake Chapala/Ajijic several times and it was like paradise, never felt threatened. However, there were armed federales in the heart of Guadalajara and the town of Tequila — but no problems.

Been to Bahamas twice on Carnival and had wonderful time. Going to Cozumel and the Caymans in May on Carnival and not worried in the least. I always avoid the planned land tours, just don’t like traveling in herds.


46 posted on 02/25/2012 9:27:04 AM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Yep, getting robbed at gunpoint is one of those “authentic” travel experiences that tourists love so much. It's more exciting than shuffleboard.
47 posted on 02/25/2012 9:30:41 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Now, St. Maarten on the Dutch side. That was nice.

Shoo the free range chickens off the beach and it ain't bad.

48 posted on 02/25/2012 9:32:59 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: FourPeas

Book that cruise. Go ahead.

Just book an ALASKAN cruise. I’ve never been, but everyone says the scenery is SPECTACULAR and far and away better than Carribean cruises


49 posted on 02/25/2012 9:35:47 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: FourPeas

There are cruises that do the islands of Hawaii too. We do not cruise but have friends that do. They say that cruise is magnificent.
Have been all over the Hawaiian islands but not cruise style. We own property just south of Hilo on the Big Island.


50 posted on 02/25/2012 9:42:41 AM PST by sheana
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