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Romney's rugged Mormon ancestors sowed riches in Mexico (Miles P. Romney had 5 wives...)
Reuters/Toronto Sun ^ | 2/25/12 | MICA ROSENBERG

Posted on 02/25/2012 9:13:51 AM PST by jimbo123

COLONIA JUAREZ - In the craggy desert of northern Mexico, U.S. presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's relatives turned an arid valley into lush agricultural land and prospered after being chased from the United States for their Mormon beliefs.

They suffered years of hardship, living in dirt dugouts and overturned wagons, but then went on to build sturdy homes and a thriving school, develop irrigation canals and dams, raise herds of cattle, and plant vast peach and apple orchards from the punishing landscape.

The story of the early Mormon settlers in Mexico, who fled the threat of arrest in the United States for practicing polygamy, is embodied by Mitt Romney's great-grandfather Miles P. Romney, who crossed south of the border in the late 1880s.

His offspring still live in Mormon enclaves in the northern Mexican state of Chihuahua around 200 miles from the border and near the house where Mitt's father, George Romney, was born.

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Miles P. Romney was pursued by U.S. marshals after polygamy, or "plural marriage" as it is known in the Mormon religion, was outlawed in 1882.

He set up camp in Mexico with three wives and more than a dozen children.

(Excerpt) Read more at torontosun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: norinos; romneycare
Interesting history lesson at lengthy article at link.
1 posted on 02/25/2012 9:13:54 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: All

Mormons are a CULT plain and Simple, no different than Scientology.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons


2 posted on 02/25/2012 9:23:47 AM PST by troy McClure
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To: jimbo123

A lot of folks spend time focusing on the magic spectacles, the golden tablets, the new Adam and Eve, the underwear... but here’s the rub that pisses people off about the Mormons most of all.

>>>but then went on to build sturdy homes and a thriving school, develop irrigation canals and dams, raise herds of cattle, and plant vast peach and apple orchards from the punishing landscape.<<<

Nothing prompts hatred more than envy. In fact, I really don’t care what the Mormons believe as long they aren’t forcing me to do the same through coercion or gunpoint, but their general productivity is the core of Mormon hatred. Ditto the Jews in the Middle East, the racist bile spewed by black intellectuals about “the knapsack of white privilege,” or the racist bile from white liberals about Alan West and Clarence Thomas. Success may have a thousand fathers, but it also brings out the worst in those who are jealous of the success.


4 posted on 02/25/2012 9:25:05 AM PST by redpoll
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To: troy McClure

southpark? come on you can do better than that


5 posted on 02/25/2012 9:26:11 AM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: jimbo123

I wonder if the wives refer to each other as wives in law.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 9:27:16 AM PST by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: jimbo123
Every man needs a wife to be kept fully apprised of his shortcomings, but five? Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.
7 posted on 02/25/2012 9:27:16 AM PST by fhayek
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To: jimbo123

Prepare yourselves for at least a gazillion more Mormon/polygamy articles between now and the election should Romney become the nominee.


8 posted on 02/25/2012 9:28:00 AM PST by Ranald S. MacKenzie (It's the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: csmusaret
"I wonder if the wives refer to each other as wives in law."

No. "Sister wives." ::::rolling eyes::::

9 posted on 02/25/2012 9:29:49 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: redpoll

I haven’t seen anyone who hates Mormons. I have, however, seen people who speak up about their false beliefs and get labeled as haters for doing so. That’s a leftwing tactic you don’t expect to see from conservatives.

Are Mormons the only productive people? Are they the only religion that builds homes and schools? Is crop planting a skill exclusive only to Mormons? No to all. So the accusation of envy really doesn’t make sense.


10 posted on 02/25/2012 9:35:26 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: redpoll

So are you saying the law should be changed to let people have multiple wives at the same time?


11 posted on 02/25/2012 9:38:10 AM PST by DB
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To: redpoll

You couldn’t be more wrong. The rub with Mormons has nothing to do with envy. The rub about Mormons is MormonISM, which is a cult that deceives millions by mascarading as “christian”. Nothing more, nothing less.


12 posted on 02/25/2012 9:40:22 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: redpoll

Gotta remind myself to never get involved in threads about Mormons.


13 posted on 02/25/2012 9:42:22 AM PST by redpoll
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To: redpoll
"Gotta remind myself to never get involved in threads about Mormons."

Yes, if you choose to comment and then don't like the truth when it's presented, it's probably best.

14 posted on 02/25/2012 9:44:58 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: jimbo123

I don’t support Romney for political reasons. But, I don’t think it’s fair to judge him on what his ancestors did. For all we know, other candidates did terrible things. Are we going to hold everyone responsible for what their grandparents did?


15 posted on 02/25/2012 9:48:34 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: fhayek
Every man needs a wife to be kept fully apprised of his shortcomings, but five? Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

Brigham Young supposedly made the statement:

The man who wants two wives has never had two wives!

16 posted on 02/25/2012 9:49:33 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m not judging Romney based on the fact that his Great Grandfather have 5 wives.


17 posted on 02/25/2012 9:50:43 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: redpoll
No one hates a mormon, it is the ISM that is the problem, it is a cult. It is not in the Christian soul to hate. We are not envious of success, far from it we love it.

You will only see in these mormon threads the truth about this cult, and their deception to their members and prospects. Not HATE, but truth. Read and learn.

18 posted on 02/25/2012 9:54:01 AM PST by annieokie
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To: fhayek

lol


19 posted on 02/25/2012 9:56:07 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: jimbo123
He set up camp in Mexico with three wives and more than a dozen children.

Slave labor.

20 posted on 02/25/2012 9:57:40 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: redpoll

Afraid you might find out the truth???

Open your eyes.


21 posted on 02/25/2012 9:57:50 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: redpoll

BTW, please point out what is envious about Mormonism?? I can’t think of a single thing and I’ve been one.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 9:58:58 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: jimbo123

Caption:"A memorial grave marker for Claude Romney, one of the ancestors of Republican US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, is seen at the graveyard of the Colonia Juarez, in the Mexican state of Chihuahua February 7, 2012. "

Stupid reporter / caption writer! (Look at the dates...)

23 posted on 02/25/2012 10:09:58 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

I don’t get your point. It looks like they had a son that lived for 7 years and died.


24 posted on 02/25/2012 10:39:54 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: redpoll
RE: Your post # 4:

I agree with you fully. If I had written it, I could not have stated it better or more clearly.

WTG

25 posted on 02/25/2012 10:55:24 AM PST by jmax
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To: nickcarraway

“Are we going to hold everyone responsible for what their grandparents did?”

Ever hear of affirmative action?


26 posted on 02/25/2012 10:59:26 AM PST by I am bigjohn
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To: panaxanax
I don’t get your point. It looks like they had a son that lived for 7 years and died.

He must have hit puberty very early and had sex before he died, or he couldn't have been one of Mitt's ancestors as the caption states.

27 posted on 02/25/2012 11:00:42 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: jimbo123

So, would Mica Rosenberg want to be some Mormon's fifth wife? Romney's ancestors fled to Mexico not because of unfair discrimination, but because they didn't want to give up their harems and live like Americans.

What, we should criticize polygamists? Sorry, but you have to draw the line somewhere, if you have any sense of decency.

28 posted on 02/25/2012 11:07:25 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: panaxanax

Ever hear of a seven year old producing offspring?


29 posted on 02/25/2012 11:32:26 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“The term “ancestor” refers to the people in someone’s lineage, or from whom someone has descended.”

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5514431_definition-ancestor.html


30 posted on 02/25/2012 11:47:15 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: panaxanax; antiRepublicrat

If you want to be technical, this kid is presumably a colateral ancestor, not in the direct line.


31 posted on 02/25/2012 11:59:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Romney's ancestors fled to Mexico not because of unfair discrimination, but because they didn't want to give up their harems and live like Americans.

That was well said, so precise and clean, love it.

32 posted on 02/25/2012 12:44:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: redpoll

Defending a cult’s anti-Christian conversion efforts while disguised in the cloak of being a Christian denomination, and defending polygamy, will definitely trigger responses from conservatives.

You probably already knew that.


33 posted on 02/25/2012 12:49:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: jimbo123

Like them or not, nobody is responsible for the behavior of their parents, grandparents or other relatives. That goes for Romney as much as any other.


34 posted on 02/25/2012 1:08:00 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Cicero

Agree. The kid is an “ancestor”.

Jeeze


35 posted on 02/25/2012 1:46:41 PM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: jimbo123

This isn’t history, it is propaganda, and I do not buy that the Romney’s were ever poor, I think that as Mormon royalty they have always been well off.

This is a glowing description from the article, evidently the Mexican Dictator was superior to us evil, oppressive Americans with our regressive view of Christianity and marriage.

“”Before the Mexican Revolution, more than 4,000 Mormons were given refuge in Mexico by dictator Porfirio Diaz, buttressed by ideas of support for religious freedom espoused by Mexico’s founding father, Benito Juarez.

Mitt’s great-grandfather Miles P. Romney was one of them. He married five women over the course of his life, and joined the first wave of settlers in Mexico.

In 1867, Miles P. was told to take a second wife by Brigham Young, who took over the leadership of the Mormon church after founder Joseph Smith was killed . Miles’ first wife, Hannah Hood Hill, Mitt’s great-grandmother, was at first unhappy but accepted the decision because of her faith and ended up living happily in a polygamous family, the travel log recounts.””


36 posted on 02/25/2012 1:47:54 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JimRed

Bishop Romney is in a different situation.

Mitt Romney is a member of the Royal Family, the Romney’s existence is based on their role as Mormon leadership.

The Romneys came here in the first place to serve Joseph smith, they shipped over in 1841 for that purpose and have never wavered from that single minded purpose, they operate out of the church as their base, they only come out into the world for, business, and politics.

Just as his father was a Bishop, then a Stake President, so is Mitt, just as his Bishop father was hoped to be the fulfillment of the White horse Prophecy with his attempt to rule the GOP as President of the United States, so is Bishop Mitt.

The Romney generations are a continuance of a a Royal line within Mormonism.


37 posted on 02/25/2012 2:12:12 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: jimbo123

Miles Romney had ONE wife (marriage is between one man and one woman, remember?) and four CONCUBINES.


38 posted on 02/25/2012 7:48:35 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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