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Rocklin [California] Considering Banning Residents From Smoking Outside Their Own Homes
sacramento.cbslocal.com ^ | February 24, 2012

Posted on 02/25/2012 1:18:58 PM PST by grundle

ROCKLIN (CBS13) – A Placer County town is considering a ban on smoking that some say goes way too far.

The Rocklin City Council is considering making it against the law for smokers to smoke anywhere outside on their property.

The city council is considering the ban after one home owner complained about smoke coming from their neighbors’ backyards saying it caused health problems for their kids.

But before going to the city council, the family first asked their neighbors to stop smoking.

One couple agreed, according to their son.

“They felt that there wasn’t any reason to put the household in any sort of health risk,” Eric Croslin said explaining his parent’s position.

But some smokers and even some non-smokers saying this ban goes too far.

“So what about people who have children in their home and they don’t want to smoke in their home?” asked non-smoker Tamara Davis.

“As a smoker, I think that smokers should be considerate,” said Rocklin resident and smoker Ryan Malonson. “But on your own property, that’s unacceptable…It’s not going to pass.”

It is already against the law for smokers to light up near businesses, parks and playground in California.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: pufflist

1 posted on 02/25/2012 1:19:02 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Nore to Calif residents:

I have a nece quiet 5.58 acre property for sale, turn key set up for horses.

Time for you to leave California, it seems.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 1:23:49 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle

Nore to Calif residents:

I have a nice quiet 5.58 acre property for sale, turn key set up for 12 horses.

Time for you to leave California, it seems.


3 posted on 02/25/2012 1:24:05 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle

Note to Calif residents:

I have a nice quiet 5.58 acre property for sale, turn key set up for 12 horses.

Time for you to leave California, it seems.


4 posted on 02/25/2012 1:24:28 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle
Still the non-smokers have at least one automobile ~ and that exhaust is far nastier than that of tobacco ~ and they probably barbaque meat outdoors from time to time (or at least roast veggies).

Wonder what they'd think if someone complained to the city council about the grill, the car, the stove, the toilet vent, the..... well, maybe SWEATY BODIES.

5 posted on 02/25/2012 1:30:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: grundle
sieg f'n heil to the Rocklin Reich
6 posted on 02/25/2012 1:33:19 PM PST by tomkat (born in the wrong century)
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To: grundle
I am an ex-smoker and when I go out in my backyard and the neighbor is smoking his cigar, it makes me sick. It smells horrible. I have a fan I bring out and blow it back his way. It helps some. Banning someone in their own yard is going way to far though.
7 posted on 02/25/2012 2:26:18 PM PST by Spunky
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To: Spunky

I’m a Muslim and when my neighbor cooks pork ribs on his grill it offends and sickens me. /sarc


8 posted on 02/25/2012 3:03:09 PM PST by glorgau
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To: muawiyah
Still the non-smokers have at least one automobile ~ and that exhaust is far nastier than that of tobacco

I was thinking similarly. I think the Solomon Solution would be to have the smokers smoke in their garage with the door down and have the non-smoker do likewise when he's warming up his car.

9 posted on 02/25/2012 3:07:38 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: grundle; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Eric Blair 2084; libertarian27

Nanny State Ping!

It was only a matter of time.............


10 posted on 02/25/2012 3:14:57 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: grundle
Rocklin is actually a very conservative town. It is in Placer County which overwhelmingly votes Republican. However, there has been an influx of some Bay Area transplants into this area over the years. Although there are a few liberal pockets here and there, it is not the norm for Rocklin. Hopefully, the city council understands that their residents would, for the most part, be appalled by such a restriction of freedom.
11 posted on 02/25/2012 3:17:42 PM PST by Adventure gal
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To: grundle
Rocklin is actually a very conservative town. It is in Placer County which overwhelmingly votes Republican. However, there has been an influx of some Bay Area transplants into this area over the years. Although there are a few liberal pockets here and there, it is not the norm for Rocklin. Hopefully, the city council understands that their residents would, for the most part, be appalled by such a restriction of freedom.
12 posted on 02/25/2012 3:17:42 PM PST by Adventure gal
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To: grundle

How is that any different than standing in your doorway blowing smoke toward your neighbors?


13 posted on 02/25/2012 3:18:03 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: randog; muawiyah

The complainers here are not “non-smokers” they are ANTI-smokers, and entirely different breed. Non-smokers are willing to work with smokers, anti-smokers are just plain intolerant and have a my way or the highway attitude regardless of what accommodations are made to them.


14 posted on 02/25/2012 3:21:45 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: grundle
The Rocklin City Council is considering making it against the law for smokers to smoke anywhere outside on their property.

This goes right along with the (smoker-financed) California anti-smoking TV propaganda commercials. The multi-billion$ tobacco settlement of a couple of decades ago had specific goals that have been ignored. One of them was "Education," but another was funding of health care expenses for smoking related diseases.

To date, I have not seen a single accounting of how the money is being spent in California, other than the rumor that funds have been diverted (like many other funds have been) to the State General Fund.

Local ordinances, like this proposed one in Rocklin, fail utterly to justify the restriction of others' basic citizenship rights with scientific proof, and rely on apocryphal rumors and personal dislikes. If simply a minuscule whiff of an unwanted odor is cause to restrict the rights of others, it isn't simply a matter of a "slippery slope;" it is a wholesale flood.

15 posted on 02/25/2012 4:52:29 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: bgill
How is that any different than standing in your doorway blowing smoke toward your neighbors?

It is evidence of a serious personality neurotic disorder.

I once had a hysterical woman run 50 yards to yell at me for endangering her lungs, and all her progenies' for five generations...

When I lit a cigarette downwind of her (and everyone else.)

I have also received, on many occasions, a ballistic hissy fit from women, mostly, although men are not immune, in department stores when I walked around with a plastic pen that was in the shape of a filter cigarette in my mouth.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” -- C. S. Lewis

16 posted on 02/25/2012 5:05:34 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Drango; grundle; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; ...

Drango will be pleased, no doubt.

Nanny State PING!


17 posted on 02/25/2012 5:39:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: ridesthemiles

I’m out of this commie hellhole the day I retire. Just a few more years and then, FREEDOM!


18 posted on 02/25/2012 5:50:41 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The only priority: Repeal Obamacare)
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To: grundle
It is with great pride that I can say that I have never visited the state of California,and I never will.

(Quick plane change enroute to HI doesn't count)

19 posted on 02/25/2012 5:55:22 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Have a cigar!

You're gonna go far.

20 posted on 02/25/2012 5:56:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"Cynthia, it is so much enjoyable out here now since that yard no-smoking ordinance passed - we can breathe so much better now"...
"I know, isn't it lovely"...

21 posted on 02/25/2012 5:59:02 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: TigersEye
Oh how I miss cigar bars! People enjoying themselves, relaxing, good company and conversation, gorgeous waitresses making huge money in tips.

You know, freedom.

Everything that a liberal hates.

22 posted on 02/25/2012 6:21:46 PM PST by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: boop
I know, I never go to bars anymore. Or restaurants. Now I have no friends.

On the upside I have lots of time on my hands to plot the end of Nanny State government. ;^)

23 posted on 02/25/2012 6:29:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: All

"Since Rocklin City Council passed the ban for smokers to not smoke anywhere outside on their property. We finally could enjoy our backyard and bought this great grill, It even has a 'smoker' - can't wait to try it out...(in unison)...Thanks Rocklin City Council"

24 posted on 02/25/2012 6:44:15 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Adventure gal

Why is it that if 1 person complains, then a whole town passes ordinances to appease one malcontent? I’ve read many research papers which have stated that the second-hand smoke hysteria is inconclusive.

Why do people never complain about the ills of alcohol? Why not ban it on the beaches, parks, etc.? It’s far more dangerous than smoking, IMO.


25 posted on 02/25/2012 7:37:37 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: grundle

Its to the point where If I lived here, I would make a point of smoking in my back yard every time I lit up.

They cant be bothered with illegals all over the state, but they are going to chase down smokers who light up on their property.. yeah good luck with that. Wait till the first person gets killed because a cop was on a call for “Illegal smoking” lol


26 posted on 02/25/2012 8:40:37 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Drango

Drango is weird. Every other FReeper who objects to smoking just doesn’t like the smell.

Drano just hates smokers for reasons that only he and his therapist know.

He can’t or won’t communicate. My guess is his mom, dad died from cancer he blames on cigarettes.


27 posted on 02/25/2012 9:44:24 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Gabz

Anti smoking groups jumped the shark years ago.


28 posted on 02/25/2012 9:47:57 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 02/25/2012 9:51:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mears

I’ve been to California twice. It’s a nice state, if you don’t mind the heat in the south. Unfortunately, the voting public are turning the state into one giant barrel of suck.


30 posted on 02/26/2012 2:12:35 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: grundle
And I'm sure the citizens will be outraged. Surely they will claim that this is infringing on their property rights, free speech, et al.

Of course they will do nothing, and one day we will ALL wake up and find that EVERYTHING we do will be banned, regulated or against the law.

It was a great country while it lasted.

31 posted on 02/26/2012 7:50:10 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: grundle

BBQ’s and gas mowers can’t be to far behind. After all, smoke is smoke.

Shhh, all the anti-smokers want is non-smoking sections in restaurants and smoking eliminated from airplanes. Plus, seat belt laws will never be a primary reason for drivers to be stopped and ticketed...

Oh wait....


32 posted on 02/27/2012 4:59:22 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: grundle

BBQ’s and gas mowers can’t be to far behind. After all, smoke is smoke.

Shhh, all the anti-smokers want is non-smoking sections in restaurants and smoking eliminated from airplanes. Plus, seat belt laws will never be a primary reason for drivers to be stopped and ticketed...

Oh wait....


33 posted on 02/27/2012 4:59:25 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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