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Voters say Santorum can't beat Obama
The Morning Call ^ | February 26, 2012

Posted on 02/25/2012 9:07:46 PM PST by Red Steel

Many Pennsylvanians think the former senator's beliefs are too extreme for the presidency.

WASHINGTON — Rick Santorum may be a mystery, a bit of an anomaly, to most American voters, but Pennsylvanians have known him a long time. And six years ago they overwhelmingly chose to sever ties.

Now Santorum has re-emerged as a serious contender in the Republican presidential primary, and Pennsylvania voters have mixed feelings about his return. At best, most find him honest about his beliefs. At worst, half say those beliefs are too extreme for the presidency.

Just 13 percent feel strongly that Santorum could beat President Barack Obama in the general election, compared with 45 percent who feel strongly that he cannot, according to a new Morning Call/Muhlenberg College poll of Pennsylvania voters.

The poll surveyed 625 registered Pennsylvania voters from Feb. 15 to Feb. 21 and has a 4 point margin of error.

One respondent, Mary Ellen Brimmer, 73, of New Holland, Lancaster County, said she's hoping Santorum does not win the nomination. Not because she has any vivid memories of his time as senator or because she doesn't share his views, but because he couldn't win the grand prize.

"I know Obama will just run away with him and I hope Obama will be finished," Brimmer, a Republican, said. "They'll clean up the floor with him. I just don't think he's capable."

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: circularfiringsquad; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; pennsylvaniaprimary; ricksantorum; santorum
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1 posted on 02/25/2012 9:07:54 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: editor-surveyor; SatinDoll; Steelfish

Ping.. and for steelfish


2 posted on 02/25/2012 9:10:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: All

It’s not obama we need to beat; anyone can beat obama. It’s the fool people that support him that the candidate needs to beat.


3 posted on 02/25/2012 9:12:21 PM PST by jackibutterfly (Life is short. Smile while you still have teeth. :-))
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To: Red Steel; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist; All

Nice try
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152918/romney-santorum-closely-matched-against-obama-nationally.aspx


4 posted on 02/25/2012 9:14:36 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Red Steel

That will all change when they are paying six or seven bucks for a gallon of gasoline and they can’t afford one of Barry’s Government Motors VOLTswagens. What the clowns in the MSM are telling us about their beloved messiah won’t mean squat when you have to see a loan officer before filling your tank.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 9:15:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the DemocRAT voter base to start paying their "fair share" of taxes.)
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To: Red Steel

“I remember he always evoked such strong feelings and I couldn’t remember for the life of me, why,” Rooney said. “The thing that came back to me most vividly, the senator is like the kid who puts his thumbs in his ears and calls you names and then runs into his house.”

When Pennsylvanians were asked to describe Santorum in one word, the responses were equally negative, positive and neutral. They praised him with terms like “honest” and “decent” and “real.” The more hostile epithets included “arrogant,” “crazy” and “extreme.” One woman called him, “the devil.”

Ellen Cassidy, 24, from Downington, Chester County, said she hates him.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 9:15:55 PM PST by lilyfreeper
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To: Steelfish

Plenty of doubts in PA Fish. High negatives for Santo in his old state. Maybe it’s time to switch to Newt.


7 posted on 02/25/2012 9:17:27 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I read earlier today that as late as October of 1980, President Jimmy Carter was polling ahead of Gov. Ronald Reagan.

We all know how that turned out, don’t we.

There are 8 months and some odd days left until the election this November.

Anything could, and probably will, happen.


8 posted on 02/25/2012 9:18:32 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: Red Steel
Many Pennsylvanians think the former senator's beliefs are too extreme for the presidency.

That's because those many are D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-S.

Santorum might still not get elected in Pennsylvania if their taker/maker ratio is greater than 1.0. But that doesn't mean he can't get elected at the NATIONAL level.

9 posted on 02/25/2012 9:19:19 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Red Steel

Even better if Newt switches to Santorum before being forced to.


10 posted on 02/25/2012 9:20:32 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Red Steel
The poll surveyed 625 registered Pennsylvania voters from Feb. 15 to Feb. 21 and has a 4 point margin of error.

If you want to tie your wagon to a S#!tty poll, Muhlenberg/Morning Snooze is it. That is my home town paper and it is a three page circular now and the polls they commission always are wildly inaccurate and wrong because it is a Leftist rag looking to sell their unpopular views. That is why their circulation is almost zero. Last real poll I saw had Rick winning the state by 30% and Obummer is wildly unpopular here. We are a shale gas state now and have no mind for the Federales telling us how to conduct our business.

11 posted on 02/25/2012 9:20:48 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“...What the clowns in the MSM are telling us about their beloved messiah won’t mean squat when you have to see a loan officer before filling your tank.”

Kudos - to a really good line!


12 posted on 02/25/2012 9:20:58 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: Steelfish

I don’t think that will happen, because Santorum has made it well known he despises Gingrich. He has verbally attacked Gingrich in this race while Gingrich has held his fire.

What think you? Would you support someone who crapped all over you?


13 posted on 02/25/2012 9:24:00 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: All
For sure, for sure.

We will see polls and editorials DAILY that proclaim Santorum or Gingrich can't beat OBozo, or that ONLY OBomney can beat OBozo.

Please, don't be disheartened by this lamestream BS...cause the OBozo will be beaten - IF he's allowed to run in the end.

14 posted on 02/25/2012 9:24:19 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Lazlo in PA

Ah! You see, that’s the kind of information we need to know, who is putting out this absurd polls.


15 posted on 02/25/2012 9:25:24 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

Not true. Gingrich and Santorum are family friends. Go Google it.


16 posted on 02/25/2012 9:26:36 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

LoL. Not going to happen.


17 posted on 02/25/2012 9:27:11 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, and Reagan couldn’t beat Carter at this time either.


18 posted on 02/25/2012 9:28:53 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SatinDoll

Here:
http://www.5min.com/Video/Santorum-Pleasure-to-Congratulate-Friend-Newt-Gingrich-517251762


19 posted on 02/25/2012 9:29:09 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Gingrich and Santorum are family friends.

That's what I've heard. Gingrich's kids with Calista go to school with Santorum's.

20 posted on 02/25/2012 9:29:09 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

So we must then ask the logical question, why has Red Steel chosen to use a leftist rag as opposed to Gallup to put Santorum in an untrue light? Or is this some tit-for-tat because Gingrich is not visible even in the rear view mirror?


21 posted on 02/25/2012 9:32:08 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: SatinDoll

The Morning Call used to be as thick as the New York times. 5 or 6 full sections and a real job to read front to back. About ten years ago, some Leftist broad became the editor and really started slanting the news. The ABE area isn’t the San Fran area she thought it was and people started to just stop buying it. The cities are real Communist havens, but the surrounding areas are RINO to Conservative and they are the ones that read the paper. Plus it is still in English so the city dwellers who speak Spanish (Puerto Ricans) don’t read it.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 9:34:32 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Steelfish

Say fishy, Newt’s not going anywhere. Lets see what happens in 3 days.


23 posted on 02/25/2012 9:36:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish; Red Steel

Red Steel is in the tank for Newton. He just didn’t realize that this source for information is a loser. He couldn’t because he isn’t a local. Was Comma Do. (PA Dutch for “what are you going to do.”)


24 posted on 02/25/2012 9:37:43 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SatinDoll

It will. Once the republicans select someone. anyone.. All the fire they have been directing at each other will turn to one man.. Obama.

Problem is, he’s stocking his war chest. and has been for years. I suspect who ever wins the republican nomination will be out spent 3 to one. Not including all the free press Zero will get.


25 posted on 02/25/2012 9:38:11 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

And you’re in the tank for Ricky. Nothing new.


26 posted on 02/25/2012 9:39:02 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Revolting cat!

The Santorums homeschool and Newt and Callista do not have children together to my knowledge. Can you provide some documentation on your claim please?


27 posted on 02/25/2012 9:41:54 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Red Steel
High negatives for Santo in his old state.

Show them to me. Where is the proof of this. I have this to show the contrary.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/23/poll-pennsylvanias-perking-up-for-rick-santorum/

Your bud Newton is not that far ahead in his home state of GA.

28 posted on 02/25/2012 9:42:07 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Gingrich doesn’t have any kids with Callista and santorum’s kids are home schooled. But they do all live in VA.


29 posted on 02/25/2012 9:43:03 PM PST by Yaelle (Rick Santorum 2012)
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To: kalee; Yaelle

My documentation is safely stored in the vault together with Obammie’s birth certificate.


30 posted on 02/25/2012 9:44:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Red Steel

LOL. You sure are a trip.


31 posted on 02/25/2012 9:45:23 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

More like being truthful.


32 posted on 02/25/2012 9:46:25 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Selling this poll isn’t truthful. Telling us that Newton isn’t in this race anymore and has no real pathway to the nomination is. Just what type of sorcery do we need to believe to see Newton winning this thing? No one has shown that situation where Rick winning swing states has.


33 posted on 02/25/2012 9:51:28 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Show them to me. Where is the proof of this.

Show yoooou?? It's right there under your nose. Right here in the article:

"Just 13 percent feel strongly that Santorum could beat President Barack Obama in the general election, compared with 45 percent who feel strongly that he cannot, according to a new Morning Call/Muhlenberg College poll of Pennsylvania voters."

To summarize
13% positive v. 45% negative

Big negatives.

34 posted on 02/25/2012 9:53:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

You mean the same Pennsylvania that kept voting for the traitor Murtha from 1969 until 2006?


35 posted on 02/25/2012 9:56:09 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Selling this poll isn’t truthful.

You have no idea of the accuracy. Likely more truthful than your compadre regurgitation old and stale polls that do not reflect the volatility of this election. Only three days left for Santo to stop his nose dive and win Mich and AZ.

36 posted on 02/25/2012 9:57:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: jackibutterfly

It’s the women who vote for Obama that we need to beat . . .

It’s time for men to organize, in private, to turnout the male vote.

“Leave the women at home!”


37 posted on 02/25/2012 9:58:48 PM PST by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Red Steel

Oh. Right here in a discredited article. Show me where Muhlenberg/ Morning Call had it right in past contests.


38 posted on 02/25/2012 10:00:48 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Actually, as of yesterday, Newt is in double figures in a poll over Ricky in GA. A substantial poll that had about 1300 to 1400 voters polled.


39 posted on 02/25/2012 10:01:14 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Lazlo in PA

You wanted me to show you then I showed you.

“Oh. Right here in a discredited article.”

Yeah, discredited by Lazlo. Oh, OK. Must be real true.


40 posted on 02/25/2012 10:04:13 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Only three days left for Santo to stop his nose dive and win Mich and AZ.

Consider the nosedive ended.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2851393/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2851275/posts

He is also within 4 points in MI. Where is Newton in this thing?

41 posted on 02/25/2012 10:08:10 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Red Steel
Voters say Santorum can't beat Obama

Romney Voters say Santorum can't beat Obama

42 posted on 02/25/2012 10:08:33 PM PST by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: Red Steel
Newt is in double figures in a poll over Ricky in GA. A substantial poll that had about 1300 to 1400 voters polled.

Excellent. When GA secedes from the union, Newton can be their new President. Is he bothering to fight in any important contests besides GA?

43 posted on 02/25/2012 10:12:45 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Red Steel

Are you a resident of the Allentown Bethlehem and Easton area? Let me know. We can head down to the Cosmo for drinks. You buy the first round.


44 posted on 02/25/2012 10:14:44 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Red Steel
Thanks for sharing.

My hubby's work associates in Pa., are saying the same thing to him. My high school friend called me the other day. I ask her about Rick(what do you see there in Pa.), she was saying it was crazy/noone sees it as a ground swell.

45 posted on 02/25/2012 10:16:16 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
He is also within 4 points in MI. Where is Newton in this thing?

Newt left MI all for Ricky to play with Mittens.

I'll wager you that Mittens beats Ricky by more than 4% in Michigan. I'm giving you a plus 4. Just a friendly $20 bet. Loser pays FR. How about it?

46 posted on 02/25/2012 10:16:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Lazlo in PA

No, I’m about 1,700 miles away.


47 posted on 02/25/2012 10:20:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Newt left MI all for Ricky to play with Mittens because he was broke and had no support.

There. Fixed it.

48 posted on 02/25/2012 10:22:53 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I wonder what Rick will do in the general when the Obamamedia controls the narrative and it is birth control and Satan 24 hours a day


49 posted on 02/25/2012 10:29:51 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

He will win. What do you thing he will do?


50 posted on 02/25/2012 10:33:58 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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