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A brokered GOP convention in Tampa? Prospect no longer looks inconceivable
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 2/26/12 | Adam C. Smith

Posted on 02/26/2012 1:58:34 AM PST by Ron C.

Jeb Bush calls it an unbelievable scenario. Karl Rove says life on Pluto is more likely.

Still, national Republican Party officials and attorneys are quietly preparing for a prospect that no longer looks inconceivable: By the time thousands of Republicans converge for their convention Aug. 27-30 at the Tampa Bay Times Forum, they will not have a nominee.

"Everybody that says they've got a crystal ball about the 2012 presidential election should have their head examined," said Phil Musser, a Republican strategist supporting Mitt Romney. "There have been more loops in this race than the roller coaster at Space Mountain, so for anyone to say unequivocally that we couldn't have a convention laced with drama strikes me as premature."

Take a tumultuous campaign for the Republican nomination where the normal political laws of momentum aren't playing out. Add in a primary schedule designed to prolong the contest and new campaign finance laws enabling rich individuals to keep financially strapped campaigns afloat indefinitely. It creates the clearest path to a contested convention in decades.

"Everybody keeps saying it's impossible, but we know it's possible," said Al Cardenas, president of the American Conservative Union and former Florida GOP chairman, of the prospect for a wild and unscripted Tampa convention. "It's possible no one has enough delegates to win the nomination and then all it takes is that person not to be able to coalesce with someone else to put them over the top."

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: convention; gop; rinos2ruleu; rinos4obama4ever; rinos4romney; spoilerromney
The idiots in the RNC have really screwed up - "Big Time" - now they face looking even worse than they already do, with an insane brokered convention not out of the question.

But with their chosen candidate Mitt getting little more than 17 to 19 percent acceptance, they have a very BIG problem on their hands. All I can say is, I'm very very happy to see it. Romney is the lousiest 'republican' they could possibly have chosen to support.

1 posted on 02/26/2012 1:58:39 AM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

It is a mess.

Even if they come to a firm agreement who the candidate should be, they have, at most, two months to sell him to the American people and rout Obama.

All because the establishment didn’t want a real Republican.


2 posted on 02/26/2012 2:09:03 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Ron C.

Has anybody whispered the name, “Sarah Palin” yet?


3 posted on 02/26/2012 2:11:39 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Palin? Not about to happen. She might be a player at the convention - in fact I expect she most certainly will be, but certainly not as a candidate or even running mate. She is literally 'political poison' that media will exploit to the fullest extent to belittle the GOP.

I'd like to see her as president, but that's as likely as my walking to the moon by Monday morning.

4 posted on 02/26/2012 2:16:51 AM PST by Ron C.
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To: dsc

Sarah Palin might be brought up...but I don’t think she could even whip up a majority of enthusiasm.

This 52-week period of forums and debates....probably has done more damage than people think. Everyone has come to decide that they can’t support fully any of the guys running. I would make a rule after that 2012, that no full-up campaigning should occur until the summer before the primary season, and no debates should occur until September...with a limit of four debates before the first primary.


5 posted on 02/26/2012 2:20:20 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: dsc

No, but each day an article appears throwing Jeb Bush’s name around.

I have been saying that I would vote for Mark Levin’s proverbial orange juice can versus Zer0. I would never vote for Zer0 but it would be really hard to pull the lever for Jeb, especially if he is forced upon us.


6 posted on 02/26/2012 2:22:56 AM PST by Buddy Sorrell (Basta! Both Obama and Ranieri must go!)
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To: Buddy Sorrell
"it would be really hard to pull the lever for Jeb"

I think it would be EXTREMELY hard for the average Republican voter to get behind a THIRD Bush. That family has done enough damage to the reputation of the name 'Republican' to last for then next 100 years.

7 posted on 02/26/2012 2:27:40 AM PST by Ron C.
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To: Buddy Sorrell
SHB "last for the next 100 years"
8 posted on 02/26/2012 2:29:03 AM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
That family has done enough damage to the reputation of the name 'Republican' to last for the next 100 years.

I think Jeb is the best of the Bush Clan, but I can't disagree. Let him be a Florida senator for the next 30 years, cabinet member, or anything else. But not president.

9 posted on 02/26/2012 2:33:11 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Ron C.

“She is literally ‘political poison’ that media will exploit to the fullest extent to belittle the GOP.”

Let me see if I can put this into words.

As the propaganda wing of the left, the lamestream misleadia create that narrative about every Stupid Party candidate except the weakest one. Parsed, it boils down to this: “If you nominate that candidate we will shriek lies like banshees from every rooftop. We will not be restrained by common decency or any consideration for the truth. No, you had better nominate this other candidate instead, because that one is ‘political poison.’”

The Stupid Party falls for that again and again, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football, but even when they have nominated the weakest candidate, the one who was not called ‘political poison,’ the despicable scoundrels of the misleadia shriek lies like banshees from every rooftop, unconstrained by common decency or any consideration for the truth.

It is long past time for those of us not suffering from leftard disorder to stop falling for that ruse. It is time for us to nominate a good candidate for the first time since Reagan, and figure out how to beat the misleadia and the left at smashmouth campaigning.

“I’d like to see her as president, but that’s as likely as my walking to the moon by Monday morning.”

That’s what they said about Reagan.


10 posted on 02/26/2012 3:26:47 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Ron C.

I agree. She would be a good president i think but she will motivate the left more than anything else. They despise her because they fear her. Ryan. Daniels. One of them. I can hope,can’t i?


11 posted on 02/26/2012 3:31:46 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: dsc
Has anybody whispered the name, “Sarah Palin” yet?

Oh, goody! Can't wait to see the hundreds of fans outside the convention waiting to see white smoke from the chimney.

12 posted on 02/26/2012 3:32:16 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Ron C.

NEWT = $2.50 PER GAL


13 posted on 02/26/2012 4:13:32 AM PST by tiger-one
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To: tiger-one

Newt is the only one with the qualifications and the power to do anything. The rest will be willing puppets for the Democrats (RINO’s)in the Republican party


14 posted on 02/26/2012 4:23:47 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Ron C.
They have the first ballot and all the delegates vote as their respective states and commonwealths have instructed them to--in other words as they did during the primaries.
If nobody gets the 1144 they release the delegates to vote for one of the candidates of their choosing.
If no clear winner emerges again the candidate with the fewest votes is scratched and they vote again and again removing each candidate with the fewest votes until we have a winner.
Rove is a disgusting RINO but he is right on this one— there will be no brokered convention--it may take a while but the best candidate AKA Rick Santorum will become the clear victor and the eventual stomper of the Marxist.
15 posted on 02/26/2012 5:01:04 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: Vigilanteman

Jeb will never be a Fl senator. He has to be top dog.


16 posted on 02/26/2012 5:12:31 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: Ron C.
A brokered GOP convention in Tampa? Prospect no longer looks inconceivable

If conservatives want to win this thing in a brokered convention in Tampa, it's going to mean marginalizing Jeb Bush and other now-come-out RINOs. Jeb was a decent enough governor, but let's be clear: He poses a major threat, a more competent threat to conservative interest than that dish* romney does.

17 posted on 02/26/2012 5:17:56 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Venturer

I’m hoping for a brokered convention too.
First reason is kinda selfish; I want the GOP-E to have major egg on their face and see the error of their ways in choosing Romnuts, an unelectable, unethical liberal. Do they not realize that the more people get to know plastic man, the more they dislike him?

Second, a brokered convention could help Newt.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Oh, and for the naysayers like my RNC friend who says that to not support Romney is to reelect Bam..I say Bam will probably be relected anyway and shame on them for trying to shove a crap**y candidate down our throats.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 6:33:31 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Michigan patriots, ie Newt and Rick supporters, UNITE!)
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To: Ron C.

There's that word again.

19 posted on 02/26/2012 7:50:08 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Ron C.

Maybe the GOPe should just co-nominate Ubama to make sure that their establishment-insider boat doesn’t get rocked.


20 posted on 02/26/2012 9:19:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: Ron C.

I believe that a “brokered” bunch would still choose Mittens, unless Jebbie steps up and demands that Mittens withdraw in his favor.


21 posted on 02/26/2012 11:33:56 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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To: Mountain Mary
Second, a brokered convention could help Newt.

Don't think so. A third place candidate who is perceived as further right than the one-two candidates in delegates is a lower priority than pleasing the supporters of the one-two finishers. That will either be Santorum-Romney or Romney-Santorum, probably the former if current trends hold.

So you have to pick someone acceptable to both camps. Jeb Bush is an obvious choice, but most of the party is fed up with the Bush dynasty. Four years have simply not been long enough. The likely choice will be someone who has one statewide races from a swing region, probably one of the Great Lakes States. Tim Pawlenty and Mitch Daniels are the only names which come immediately to mind.

However, there is a real danger that, boring as both are, either one could actually win. And I'm not sure the GOP establishment really wants anything more than a place holder. Jeb's turn is in 2016. 2020 would be too long to wait if their designated place holder actually wins.

22 posted on 02/26/2012 1:46:31 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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The likely choice will be someone who has one won statewide races from a swing region,

Sorry!

23 posted on 02/26/2012 1:48:52 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Venturer

I had the honor to be part of Newt’s telephone town-hall meeting yesterday. This was live, Newt was Newt the professor, that he is. He was taking questions from those called. I missed getting my question in, because I heard the moderator say press *3. I missed the entire number, which was *53. Newt ask that we spread the word, “NEWT = $2.50 per gal


24 posted on 02/26/2012 4:28:53 PM PST by tiger-one
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To: Pollster1

Exactly what I thought of when I read the title.

Note that Intrade shows a contract for this possibility, so if anyone is ‘certain’ one way or another, puts their money down and is right, they make money from that assertion.

Will the Republican Presidential nominee be selected at a brokered convention?
REP.NOM.2012.BROKERED
The 2012 Republican Pres. nominee to be selected at a brokered party convention.
Contract Bid Ask Last Vol Chge
M Trade 17.2 23.0 17.2 1683 0


25 posted on 02/26/2012 4:29:07 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Ron C.

Question?:

Does a brokered convention result in a nominee that is not currently running?


26 posted on 02/26/2012 4:36:57 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: cornfedcowboy
"a nominee - not currently running"

Supposedly it certainly could. I personally do not think there will be a brokered convention, although I, and others like me that don't think it will happen, could be quite wrong.

Sadly it appears that leftist media and left-leaning 'republicans' will succeed in dragging Romney across the finish line.

27 posted on 02/26/2012 6:43:48 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Kevmo
Exactly what I thought of when I read the title.

I find it appalling how little skill today's journalists demonstrate when choosing the words to convey what is supposed to be informative news, not to mention the lack of thought underlying any analysis that they present. Spin almost universally takes precedence over logic in today's media. Each item of bad economic news is "unexpected" or "surprising". Any hint of life from America's conservatives is "inconceivable". What happened to professionalism?

28 posted on 02/27/2012 7:00:09 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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