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Burning cash with gas
The Washington Times ^ | February 26, 2012 | Ted Nugent

Posted on 02/26/2012 3:00:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

.........America’s economy is intrinsically aligned with fuel prices because the lifeblood of our economy is oil. Four-dollar-a-gallon gas will not just sting at the pump but also will put the squeeze on every American for milk and cookies at the grocery store and every product we purchase because they are all delivered to stores by truck.

...As gas prices continue to rise, consumer debt probably also will rise as American families, already strapped for cash, will use credit cards to pay for the increased fuel costs.

Ultimately, higher gas prices put the squeeze on all things related to the economy, including job creation.

Interestingly, demand for gas in America is down. Typically, when demand for something such as gas is down, prices fall. But not now. Prices at the pump continue to rise.

Whatever you do, do not blame Big Oil for the price at the pump, as Bill O'Reilly mistakenly does. The oil companies have nothing to do with setting the price of gas. Gas prices are set by oil price futures, which are the prices fuel investors think oil will cost in the future.

There are other things in play besides oil futures that are causing the price to rise. Demand for oil around the world is going up as other nations are using more of it. The higher the demand, the higher the price.

Another reason oil prices are high is the deterioration in the value of the U.S. dollar....

At four bucks a gallon or even higher, the economy will enter a severe stall... But tightening our belts and reducing spending will slam the brakes on our economy, which is, at best, only in first gear...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dollar; economy; jobs; nationalsecurity; oil; prices

1 posted on 02/26/2012 3:00:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
do not blame Big Oil for the price at the pump, as Bill O'Reilly mistakenly does. The oil companies have nothing to do with setting the price of gas. Gas prices are set by oil price futures, which are the prices fuel investors think oil will cost in the future.

Welcome to America in the New Millennium, where an aging rock star has more understanding of how the world works than a boneheaded TV news clown with a seven-figure income.

2 posted on 02/26/2012 3:14:23 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It runs across all of society. Your local high school football team will ask parents to pay for the fuel to get the players to games away. After-school events? They probably will start limit those. Going to a movie on a Sunday afternoon? You probably will just download something via your computer. Used to shopping at the grocery every seven days....you might buy a second refrigerator and do it every fourteen days. Visiting the relatives for Thanksgiving? Maybe not...especially if it means $300 in gas cost.


3 posted on 02/26/2012 3:19:02 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Cincinatus; pepsionice

The Left will continue driving up oil prices to limit our independence and curtail our freedom — they are determined to get us on their green buses and trains.


4 posted on 02/26/2012 3:25:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Have been saying that forever. Also applies to gambling and casinos..


5 posted on 02/26/2012 3:34:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Cincinatus

I disagree with Ted on this and agree with O’Reilly (which I posted earlier tonight on another thread... weird)

Anyway, yes, oil is GLOBAL, but it is being drilled on OUR land. So let’s keep some of what we get to not pay GLOBAL prices.


6 posted on 02/26/2012 3:38:34 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
but it is being drilled on OUR land.

Then YOU invest the hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure, exploration, production and refining to produce the oil from YOUR land and then YOU can sell it to yourself. Oil in the ground has no value, only potential value -- it is worth nothing until someone spends money to get it out of the ground. Then it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

O'Reilly is clueless about how the oil business works. I suspect that he knows more than he lets on, but is demagoguing this issue to boost ratings for his idiot show so that he can hawk more of his idiot books. In any event, he is wrong from start to finish on this issue and to the extent that you agree with him, so are you.

7 posted on 02/26/2012 4:06:08 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cincinatus

I would gladly invest the money. Unfortunately you do not grasp that politicians pick the winners and losers in this field.

So you can squawk free market all day long, but in the oil field there IS no ‘free market.’


8 posted on 02/26/2012 4:13:07 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
in the oil field there IS no ‘free market.’

Largely because people who think like you do have over-regulated and attempted to control the market. And now, your solution is to impose additional controls, by dictating to whom the oil companies may sell their product, regardless of whether such is done at a profit or loss.

Bill O'Reilly, Hugo Chavez and you -- three peas in a pod.

9 posted on 02/26/2012 4:21:27 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: autumnraine
A Gentle Reproof for Bill O'Reilly (oil prices)
10 posted on 02/26/2012 4:22:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just an early morning, only halfway through my first cup of coffee, son is up and already running circles around the house, random thought: We've been putting premium in our gas tanks lately and getting better gas mileage. With a three year old and a six month old it's kind of handy not having to stop for gas so often, especially when it's ten degrees outside. Another note just as baby girl is starting to squeak in her crib: My dad has been buying av gas from their local municipal airport. He uses it in their generators and his chain saw. He says his generators turn right over now, the gas can be stored in them longer, and he hasn't had to tear apart and clean his Husky since he started using it. Now off to be mommy!
11 posted on 02/26/2012 4:29:02 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Cincinatus

What did you expect? I mean it’s not like Mr Nugent has been running around cheating on his wife and kids with interns at a News Station. He didn’t even threaten his soon to be ex-wife and her new boyfriend.


12 posted on 02/26/2012 4:44:37 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: pepsionice
I drive what might be considered a gas guzzler, but don't put a lot of miles on the car per year. For every $1 increase in gas, that would mean an extra $350 per year for the gas budget assuming I don't change my driving behavior.

If I lived in a nearby bedroom community like some of my fellow coworkers, it would be closer to $800..

13 posted on 02/26/2012 5:01:51 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Cincinatus

I am like Hugo Chavez because I think oil drilled on federal land should be subject to an export tax?

Whatever dude.


14 posted on 02/26/2012 5:08:41 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
I am like Hugo Chavez because I think oil drilled on federal land should be subject to an export tax?

No - because you can't grasp that the prices are being artificially modified due to politicians exerting controls they have no right to exert. Left to do business as a capitalist entity, unfettered by government controls and regulations designed to cripple them, oil companies would continue to serve us with affordable and abundant energy. Not only is government inflating the price of oil, but it makes more "profit" via taxes per gallon than the oil companies do.

15 posted on 02/26/2012 6:10:06 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: pepsionice

Visiting the relatives for Thanksgiving? Maybe not...especially if it means $300 in gas cost. ..........................Boy, can we relate to that, all our kids are spread out over the country. It could be worse, we could have used an RV to visit them (We don’t own one.). We use 2 4cyl. cars now to get around. Our 6 cyl. car cost us a small fortune last year in gas. Any candidate that can get the fuel costs down will win easily.IMHO


16 posted on 02/26/2012 6:15:51 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gas prices are set by oil price futures, which are the prices fuel investors think oil will cost in the future.

Yes.
When an administration says "Drill Here, Drill Now- lift those restrictions" - gas prices plummet even before the first 'new' drill bit hits earth.
When and administration says "No drilling, stop drilling, cease operations in certain areas, No Keystone" the futures go up.

When an administration toys with "Algae Fuel is the future" and the technology is expensive or too new (I've heard it's at $26/gal right now for that stuff) The market place doesn't even have to 'gamble' with a projection and places their bets on high costs - raising the costs now....that future is a no-brainer.

17 posted on 02/26/2012 8:11:54 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Personally, I am praying for $6 a gallon gas by election day.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 9:15:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Personally, I am praying for $6 a gallon gas by election day.”

It won’t make a bit of a difference insofar as “Obama’s people” are concerned.

They’re going to vote for him anyway.

The “entitlees” are not going to abandon “the party of entitlement” at the polls. That they might do so defies logic. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.


19 posted on 02/26/2012 9:40:00 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Cincinatus

Amen, brother Cincinatus!


20 posted on 02/26/2012 12:17:10 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Road Glide

Yes, but it might help to make up the minds of the otherwise empty-headed “independents”. When they start feeling the pain, they just might start to understand.


21 posted on 02/26/2012 12:21:36 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: autumnraine
I'm not sure about elsewhere, but there has been a virtual moratorium on Federal Leasing in the Rocky Mountain States. The oil being drilled in the Bakken Formation in North Dakota and Montana is primarily NOT being drilled on Federal Land, the leases are for private mineral rights, and the development has been superb.

The market works if the Government will let it.

As an aside, I remember $.20 per gallon gasoline. Of course, those two dimes were 90% silver then, and today would be worth $5.11 (spot price today on the .2*.72 ounces of silver present in two dimes back then).

Compared to silver, the price of gasoline has gone down.

The reality which the politicians want to evade is that they have trashed the value of the dollar--the oil companies didn't do that. You may have noticed the effects of the politicians' actions at the grocery store as well, from downsized units of sale (remember 6 oz cans of tuna?) to the increased prices. While shipping costs are a factor, they don't account for all of the increases in the prices of other commodities. A devalued dollar, on the other hand, does.

22 posted on 02/27/2012 12:01:09 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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