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U.S farmers angry over Iraq buying basmati rice from India
The Time ^

Posted on 02/26/2012 7:55:56 AM PST by MBT ARJUN

DAYTON, Texas - The talk of the day among Ray Stoesser and other rice farmers is Iraq's decision not to buy U.S. rice, a stinging move that adds to a stressful year punctuated by everything from drought to unusual heat. Stoesser and other farmers know Iraqis struggled during the U.S. invasion and subsequent occupation. They know most countries , and people , buy based on price. But at the moment, with production costs rising, export markets shrinking and rice prices dropping, it's difficult to be rational and suppress emotions so intimately intertwined with their land and livelihood. "That's just not right," the 63-year-old Stoesser fumed. "If we've got some rice to sell, they ought to pay a premium for it just because this is the country that freed them." Iraq imports most of its rice, about 1 million metric tons per year, making it a significant player in the global market. In the past decade, about 10 percent to 15 percent of that total came from the United States. But Iraq hasn't bought any U.S. rice since late 2010. "You would think with all that we've done over there, there would be a way to get them to do business with us," said Ronald Gertson, who grows rice in Lissie, Texas. Iraq has been buying instead from Asia and South America, and it recently lowered its quality standards so it would be able to buy rice from India, something that was impossible under the Iraqi Grain Board's old rules, said Andy Aaronson, chairman of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Rice Interagency Commodity Estimate Committee. It also recently bought rice from Uruguay, which grows a variety similar to the American one but sold for less.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commiefarmers; endfoodsubsidies; entitledfarmers; farmers; farming; food; foodfascists; india; iraq; rice; socialist; us

1 posted on 02/26/2012 7:56:07 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
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To: MBT ARJUN

We are slowly learning that we are not at all compatible with these people. That includes religion and commerce. It is high time that we stop spending time and money on these people, and instead employ the “watch and wait” philosophy in maintaining control of them.


2 posted on 02/26/2012 8:01:36 AM PST by davisfh
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To: MBT ARJUN

The market is free or it is not. If the Iraqi’s prefer one type of rice like the Japanese prefer another then the fuming farmer should grow what the consumer wants if he expects to sell to them.


3 posted on 02/26/2012 8:02:08 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative
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To: MBT ARJUN

Lol. Iraq would be purchasing rice with money that we gave them that we borrowed from China.


4 posted on 02/26/2012 8:04:48 AM PST by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: MBT ARJUN

I’m a big supporter of independent farmers, but I would love to know where these people think the price of rice is falling? No such thing is happening in the grocery store. I realize prices are going to reflect the increased costs in production and transportation, but to claim the price is decreasing makes no sense to me.


5 posted on 02/26/2012 8:10:20 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: MBT ARJUN
Gratitude to infidels is not a concept embraced by Islam.

Besides, look at the number of American consumers who buy Chinese instead of American products just because they're cheaper.

6 posted on 02/26/2012 8:17:17 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Exactly.. but that’s not even what the article is about. This guy expects them to pay a premium for all that “we” did. I wonder if this 63 year old farmer was going to give his profits away in the form of charity for soliders that actually went over there and did the work?


7 posted on 02/26/2012 8:27:36 AM PST by Almondjoy
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To: MBT ARJUN

The Texas Basmati rice is quite good. We in the USA produce rice very competitively, and more efficiently than just about anyone else in the world.

I visited a Chinese grocery store here in NJ, and found a huge variety in rice, all in colorful bags with Chinese-language markings, and all marked in small letters, “Product of USA” (most from California and Texas).

There are new varieties of rice which are loaded with vitamins compared to the traditional forms. Try some!


8 posted on 02/26/2012 8:35:22 AM PST by docbnj
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To: MBT ARJUN

Muslims just don’t care. Get it through your skulls now, or they’ll put it through there for you.


9 posted on 02/26/2012 8:44:42 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (“Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.")
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To: Almondjoy

Well said. Its a free market, after all.


10 posted on 02/26/2012 8:55:21 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: MBT ARJUN

India can barely feed their billions. Rice can store for many years. Just wait. They are going to need it soon.


11 posted on 02/26/2012 8:58:52 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

India, like most Asian countries keep rice and respond to it as a national security concern. A few years ago, India started a rice crisis. They made it illegal for most Indian rice to leave the country. In October 2007, they blocked exports of all non-Basmati rice. Thus turning a rice surplus into a rice crisis. Idiots.


12 posted on 02/26/2012 9:12:07 AM PST by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: vetvetdoug

Thanks to the green revolution, India has been a food exporter for some time. A lot of poeple in the food business expect that to change sometime in the next 10-20 years as rising incomes lead to an improved diet with more animal protein, but the process will be slower in India than China because so many people in India don’t eat meat. Dairy, however, is already growing very rapidly. Poultry will be next.


13 posted on 02/26/2012 9:16:54 AM PST by sphinx
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To: MBT ARJUN
"You would think with all that we've done over there..."

No good deed goes unpunished..........

14 posted on 02/26/2012 9:19:39 AM PST by yoe
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To: MBT ARJUN
"If we've got some rice to sell, they ought to pay a premium for it just because this is the country that freed them."

You can't free someone who is imprisoned by a culture of their own making. All we've done is go over and stir the pot.

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"You would think with all that we've done over there, there would be a way to get them to do business with us,"

I'm ashamed to share the State with people who think 'doing good' must come with some kind of payback.

15 posted on 02/26/2012 9:27:09 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: PapaBear3625

Why American rice farmers of all people should receive a windfall for the US investment in Iraq escapes me.

The same argument could be made for every US product—and thankfully we’ve still enough free market respect left in most of us that it isn’t.


16 posted on 02/26/2012 9:28:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: MBT ARJUN
They know most countries , and people , buy based on price.

And the Indian rice costs less. The U.S. exports a lot of food because it's available and priced right. If this strain of rice can't be grown here competitively, the angry farmers might look for another crop.

17 posted on 02/26/2012 9:41:31 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: MBT ARJUN

If anyone expects a thanks for everything/anything that we’ve done for the Iragi’s, they need to have their head examined. Just like everyone else in the ME they have no concept of what gratitude is. The iragi’s deserved good ol’ Saddam.

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18 posted on 02/26/2012 10:00:25 AM PST by flatfish
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To: MBT ARJUN
If we quit throwing money down this hellhole and pull out totally - it won't matter who they buy their rice from...

The fewer entanglements with ME countries, the better.

I don't want to sell to them, don't want to buy from them. Don't want to defend them, don't want their help... DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

19 posted on 02/26/2012 10:17:54 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: MamaTexan
You can't free someone who is imprisoned by a culture of their own making. All we've done is go over and stir the pot.

Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!

20 posted on 02/26/2012 10:19:08 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: MBT ARJUN
But Iraq hasn't bought any U.S. rice since late 2010.

It sounds like these farmers, much like other manufacturers/suppliers of American war goods, got used to the largess of the US government and now they think it's their right.

21 posted on 02/26/2012 10:29:52 AM PST by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: davisfh

Agreed 100%.


22 posted on 02/26/2012 11:07:56 AM PST by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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To: MBT ARJUN

For Americans to complain about this is rich, for coming from a country which is the biggest buyer and enabler of the lowest common denominator-based pricing seller - China.

If Americans didn’t think just as the Iraqis did, they wouldn’t be buying Chinese junk by the trillions, at all.


23 posted on 02/26/2012 11:29:17 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: MBT ARJUN

More complaints against vestiges of a free market from the bipartisan, socialist political class in our US debt regime. The teachers and regulators in his family are probably also complaining in roundabout ways about their perceptions of shortfalls in federal government intervention/contributions.

You’d think that more of the real, enlisted combat soldiers he’s taking the credit for would be allowed to do jobs and live in homes with whole families but not in this politically correct, socialist debt regime administered by born regulators.


24 posted on 02/26/2012 11:59:14 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: MBT ARJUN

Gee Mr Subsidized Agribiz ! We are so surprised that the Iraqis stabbed you in the back, ...Now give the “little man” farmers and his heirs their family farms back to lighten up your “Karma”


25 posted on 02/26/2012 2:22:41 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: docbnj
I remember reading a book years ago about a veteran who returned to Vietnam in the 1970’s with American hybrid rice seed that became a great benefit to the country.
26 posted on 02/26/2012 3:16:52 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Yep, that rice came from a US.Gov't sponsored program in the Philippines. Fact is, the rice growing program in VN was going on during the war there.
It was one of the several beneficial programs put into place by various US endeavors.
Of course after, the May 1975 debacle these programs were done away with by the communist regime and VN went from a rice-exporting country in a rice-importing country.
I believe this deficit status remained until the mid 90s or so. Sad tale.
27 posted on 02/26/2012 7:54:17 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

Yes.... I remember such as well. Stay safe T !


28 posted on 02/26/2012 8:48:27 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: docbnj
Texas Basmati if fake Basmati. Nowhere even close to the quality of real Indian Basmati.
29 posted on 02/26/2012 10:34:59 PM PST by ravager
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To: MBT ARJUN
Just like the auto industry, the US agriculture is also losing to open competition inspite of government subsidy/bailout. And the fault always lies with the "ungrateful customer".
30 posted on 02/26/2012 10:46:55 PM PST by ravager
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To: MBT ARJUN
"That's just not right," the 63-year-old Stoesser fumed. "If we've got some rice to sell, they ought to pay a premium for it just because this is the country that freed them."

LOL! That's not how a free market works!

31 posted on 02/26/2012 10:54:11 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: MBT ARJUN

There so much stupidity in the comments here.. tell me, how many of you red-blooded Americans dont buy Chinese good cos its cheaper? How many of you drive Japanese cars??
Would you pay $10 for a kilo of rice or $2 for the same but different origin if you were the buyer and save $8??
At times freepers talk no sense..


32 posted on 02/26/2012 10:58:07 PM PST by coldphoenix
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To: MBT ARJUN
I just cant imagine a true rice eater (who really knows his rice) would pay a premium to pick a fake American imitation of Basmati of low quality over real Indian Basmati of top quality and lower price. That's like paying a premium for baloney over prime rib.
33 posted on 02/27/2012 7:34:21 AM PST by ravager
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To: MBT ARJUN
"If we've got some rice to sell, they ought to pay a premium for it just because this is the country that freed them."

"Whitey owes me" goes international. :)

34 posted on 02/29/2012 5:49:57 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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