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Immigrants, city fear divide over status checks
The Baltimore Sun ^ | February 25, 2012 | John Fritze and Erik Maza

Posted on 02/26/2012 9:18:51 AM PST by moonshinner_09

Julio Cesar Ayala knew he was taking a risk when he decided to overstay his tourist visa four years ago, but he never expected to be threatened with deportation for climbing behind the wheel of the family's silver minivan.

The 53-year-old Salvadoran was stopped by a Baltimore County police officer last year and had to admit that he didn't have a driver's license. Hours after he was handcuffed and separated from his 9-year-old granddaughter on the side of the road, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement received an automatic notification of his arrest through a controversial and burgeoning federal program called Secure Communities.

He spent nearly two weeks in jail for a traffic violation. He now faces a deportation hearing in April.

"I've never had any problems before," said Ayala, a Cockeysville resident and grandfather to eight children born in the United States. "I feel trapped."

Last week, the Department of Homeland Security expanded Secure Communities to Baltimore, which for years had not been included in the program. The federal agency's move came despite objections from city leaders who believe it could harm the relationship between police and the Hispanic community. Many immigrants — documented and not — say they will be less likely to approach police to report a crime, even if they are victims, because they have heard stories like Ayala's.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabiesgalore; criminal; illegalalien; immigration; md
Advocates hope Ayala is a good candidate to have his case suspended. He traveled back and forth to El Salvador for 15 years on tourist visas and said he decided to stay here after his most recent visa expired because his life was threatened back home-- I believe that threat is no longer a valid reason, to be excused from complying with the laws.
1 posted on 02/26/2012 9:18:55 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

See, it works.


2 posted on 02/26/2012 9:22:51 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Julio Cesar Ayala knew he was taking a risk when he decided to overstay his tourist visa four years ago, but he never expected to be threatened with deportation for climbing behind the wheel of the family's silver minivan.

Nice try at obfuscating the issue (not really, pretty inept actually).

He knowingly broke the rules, but if he gets tossed, the problem isn't that but driving his minivan??? Even deportation isn't "punishment" per se. It's just forced completion of that which he already agreed to do when he got the visa.

3 posted on 02/26/2012 9:23:38 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: moonshinner_09
Julio Cesar Ayala knew he was taking a risk breaking United States law when he decided to overstay his tourist visa four years ago, but he never expected to be threatened with deportation for climbing behind the wheel of the family's silver minivan.

Fixed it.

4 posted on 02/26/2012 9:26:56 AM PST by thecodont
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To: moonshinner_09

In another related story, Family fears future, separation
Immigration laws designed to protect can also hurt by splitting parents, children
Cuellar-Hernandez will soon be deported back to Mexico. Cuellar-Hernandez is in the country illegally. He was the sole breadwinner for his wife and three U.S.-born children. He has been convicted of using someone else’s Social Security number.. In order
to view full story or view our Registration Guide,they want you to sign up.. I can see where this is going.Illegals just seem amazed that laws do apply to them.
http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/2012/02/26/family-fears-future-separation-214072.php


5 posted on 02/26/2012 9:28:04 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Four years of criminal behavior as an illegal alien. And apparently 15 years of semi-criminal behavior before that, since a “tourist visa” is not meant to cover a 15 year stay in this country.


6 posted on 02/26/2012 9:33:52 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: moonshinner_09

If he is guilty of even ONE overstay of his VISA (let alone a potential multiple of 15 occurrences), he should be imprisoned until his sorry ass can be deported back to where he came from.

We do not need these people, we do not need their skills, we do not need their diversity, we do not need their crime, we do not need their diseases, and we do not need the load they place on the support system we have here for Americans that can’t or won’t work.

We DO NOT NEED THEM!


7 posted on 02/26/2012 9:34:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: moonshinner_09

These are not ‘’immigrants’’. They’re criminals, they broke the law.


8 posted on 02/26/2012 9:49:32 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: moonshinner_09
grandfather to eight children born in the United States

Criminal with eight anchors.

9 posted on 02/26/2012 9:51:47 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Cicero

Will MSM apply this to 2nd Admend? Fire breaks out in an NJ house. Firemen come and go into burning house and discover owner owns a lot of guns and ammo. Calls cops and cops look and arrests owner. Owner is an elderly man, a WW2 vet, good citizen, nice guy in neighborhood. All that means nothing as the courts convict him for having unsecured guns and ammo laying about in his house. Eventually he gets a fine and all of his guns confiscated in a plea bargain deal or face trial and potential prison. By the way, his record will show the arrest and plea bargain. No more guns and ammo for him and thank God he is retired, otherwise no prospect of getting a job either. MSM would never defend the man because he is a gunowner, or worst a kook who owns too many guns thus not worth defending. Illegal immigrants, now that is another story!!


10 posted on 02/26/2012 9:55:10 AM PST by Fee
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To: moonshinner_09
"I feel trapped."

You should, you bastard. What part of "you are here illegally" don't you understand?

11 posted on 02/26/2012 10:02:38 AM PST by upchuck ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclas. 10:2)
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To: moonshinner_09

Now he knows what it’s like to sneak into the Super Bowl without buying a ticket and getting caught.


12 posted on 02/26/2012 10:06:33 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the DemocRAT voter base to start paying their "fair share" of taxes.)
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To: moonshinner_09
when he decided to overstay his tourist visa
When he decided to break the law.

He spent nearly two weeks in jail for a traffic violation.
No, he spent two weeks in jail for being an illegal alien.

"I've never had any problems before," said Ayala, a Cockeysville resident and grandfather to eight children born in the United States. "I feel trapped."

Cry me a river then swim back across it.

13 posted on 02/26/2012 10:15:23 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Still Thinking

He not only is a breaker of our immigration laws, he is breaking the vehicle laws of our country & states.

IF this person had been in ANY kind of auto accident, the insurance company would have refused to pay a single dime for damages.

MY uninsured motorist premium costs here in Nevada are over 36% of my total premiums. I had my last accident in Feb 1966 & had my last ticket in 1981. I still drive, but price of gas makes every trip a ‘multiple stop’ trip. Over the years I have driven over 1 million miles & have towed trailers all over the western half of the USA.


14 posted on 02/26/2012 10:40:59 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: thecodont

Let’s see... In the country illegally... Driving illegally... No mention if he’s using a false SSN, but that’ likely so go ahead and chuck in identity theft and he’s wondering what all the fuss is about?

Try doing any of that crap in Japan, or any other Asian country, and see how fast you get chucked out of the country.

There have been any number of stories on how brutal Mexico’s immigration laws are. In Japan, visas are strictly an administrative matter under the discretion of the Justice Ministry. They can deny or revoke any visa for any reason or for no reason at all.

Illegals? Hey, they catch them, they’re GONE! Sometimes on the same day they’re picked up. And this is not just something that happens to 3rd World economic migrants, either — as any number of American, Canadian and Europeans have found out.


15 posted on 02/26/2012 2:10:17 PM PST by Ronin (VOTE NEWT! He's Not Romney! Huh? He did?? Scratch that! GO SANTORUM!!!)
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To: moonshinner_09

I am continuously ashamed of immigrants making unethical and illegal decisions and then playing it as a moral dilemna for the American public..If he felt he had valid reason for refugee status he should have applied for it, not taken the law into his own hands. Shame on him, he broke the laws of our country and then wants us to feel sorry for him and take mercy. Let him take his deportation like a man or criminal and stop crying about getting caught.


16 posted on 02/26/2012 7:57:12 PM PST by student_mom
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To: student_mom

Reminds me of the child who kills his Mother and his Father, who then asks for mercy from the court because he is an orphan.


17 posted on 02/26/2012 8:13:40 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Many immigrants — documented and not — say they will be less likely to approach police to report a crime, even if they are victims, because they have heard stories like Ayala's.

Having real numbers and percentages would be helpful rather than a vague term like "many."

18 posted on 02/26/2012 8:56:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: moonshinner_09; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Why didn’t he apply for asylum, if his life was in danger?

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


19 posted on 02/29/2012 12:38:01 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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