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A Santorum win in Michigan could be chaos for GOP
Reuters ^ | 02/26/2012 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/26/2012 5:50:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The Republican presidential race faces a potential turning point on Tuesday in contests in Arizona and Michigan, where upstart Rick Santorum threatens to plunge an already unpredictable nominating battle into chaos.

Mitt Romney, the former front-runner and presumed nominee, and Santorum are in a close race in Michigan, the state where Romney was raised and his father was an auto executive and popular governor.

A Santorum win there would be a devastating blow to Romney, turning lingering doubts about his ability to win the allegiance of Republican primary voters into a deep panic in the party's senior ranks.

"If Santorum pulls off the upset in Michigan it turns the entire race on its head," said Republican Dan Schnur, an aide to Senator John McCain during his 2000 presidential bid. "There aren't going to be a lot of people who have much use for a front-runner who can't win his home state."

But Republicans worry about the general election viability of Santorum, a staunch conservative who has courted controversy with a burst of comments on social issues like birth control, pre-natal testing and women in the military.

Santorum's rise and Romney's weakness have sparked speculation about more contenders jumping into a Republican race that could last all the way to a brokered convention in August. The Michigan result could shift that speculation into overdrive.

"A Santorum win in Michigan takes all of the talk about a new candidate or a brokered convention and puts it on steroids," Republican strategist Todd Harris said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: az2012; danschnur; freeperheadsexplode; gop; mi2012; michigan; primaries; santorum
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“RNC and official beltway RINO-hood all hanging on their plum Administration jobs they have staked out from 2013 if Romney wins, ...”

Very, correct. Massuchusetts-Mitt is in there for one reason, and only one reason, consolidation of Arbeitsziehungslager- “Care” Federal power. Undercover that, “all parties are for it.”


101 posted on 02/27/2012 2:06:20 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t already have chaos?


102 posted on 02/27/2012 2:26:19 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: heartwood

“We saw that in NJ with Bret Schundler’s nomination for governor - very little party support.”

YES WE DID SEE THAT!

This is a big, if overlooked, part of what led to the Tea Party. It’s a one way street with the Republican establishment.

The so-cons support the moderates when they are nominated. If a so-con gets nominated they get NO SUPPORT from the moderates.

This is what I was thinking today, I’m afraid if the choice comes down to Obama and Romney it won’t be much of a choice at all. Romney comes across as out-of-touch and condescending, not unlike Obama.

At least Santorum would provide a real contrast and say what you like against him he’s the ONLY one who’s got any ability to appeal to Joe and Jane Six-pack. He comes across as down-to-earth and hard working, you just can’t say that about Mitt or the big O. (I think Mitt probably does work hard, he just doesn’t seem like he does; Obama is a lazy bum and that’s the truth.)

I think Gingrich’s negatives are just too high to overcome.


103 posted on 02/27/2012 3:09:56 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Graewoulf
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104 posted on 02/27/2012 3:31:14 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 ! DD)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
A little reminder of what Reagan did in 1984. I don't think it was because of Republicans, or not entirely so.
105 posted on 02/27/2012 4:36:25 AM PST by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bob Dull, Juan McLame, two liberally moderate Bush’s and now they try to foist mitt on us?
Hey GOP, shove it.
Real conservative or go fish.


106 posted on 02/27/2012 4:54:06 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: House Atreides

Rubio is the most often advanced name for Vice President. His parents did not become US citizens until after his birth.

Do I even know what makes a person a natural born citizen? Check my postings over the last four years.

Natural Born Citizen: A person born on US soil whose parents at the time of that birth where US citizens.

Santorum: His father immigrated from Italy and became a naturalized citizen some time after Rick’s birth.

Romney: His father was born in Mexico to non US citizens. He latter entered the US illegally. Was he naturalized or not, if so it was after Mitt’s birth.

The research on this, primarily related to Obama, has been discussed and debated by many on this forum over the last four years. Read and enjoy!


107 posted on 02/27/2012 6:51:00 AM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: Marine_Uncle

See post 107


108 posted on 02/27/2012 6:58:54 AM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chaos sounds baaaaad.....

-—But Republicans worry about the general election viability of Santorum, a staunch conservative who has courted controversy with a burst of comments on social issues like birth control, pre-natal testing and women in the military.-——

I don’t see abortion and having daughters sent into combat as being “extreme.” Al-Reuters needs to get out more.


109 posted on 02/27/2012 7:10:00 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Mariner

“No, I’ll not be zotted for observing Santorum as a loser. “

“President Santorum” - get used to the sound of it.

;-)


110 posted on 02/27/2012 7:36:15 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: W. W. SMITH

I think it was Santorum’s grandfather who immigrated from Italy.


111 posted on 02/27/2012 8:26:54 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: All; Lazlo in PA

If the GOP establishment doesn’t support Rick, when he wins, I predict a HUGE drop in their donations.

They had better come to their senses.


112 posted on 02/27/2012 9:16:22 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: heartwood; jocon307

I’m not even from NJ, and I tried to help Bret Schundler by calling the WABC talk show about him. He is a well-known conservative hero. What a loss for NJ.


113 posted on 02/27/2012 9:19:53 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: magslinger

Thanks for the Ronald Reagan election map.

The GOP stablishment didn’t want him either.

So why should anyone pay attention to the establishment elites’ views.


114 posted on 02/27/2012 9:25:09 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun
I predict a HUGE drop in their donations.

I think we are already there. The RNC has been having a lot of trouble raising money over the past couple years, yet GOP candidates swept in '10 and were well funded. Most people have wised up and give directly to the candidate. Super Pacs also are going to be big this year and far more effective at fundraising and getting the job done.

I give straight to Rick. The upside is that Rick gave me a sweater vest for doing it. The RNC just floods my mailbox with junk mail when I used to kick them a few bucks. Screw them.

115 posted on 02/27/2012 9:26:26 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: W. W. SMITH
RE: "See post 107."
Thanks for the feedback. The info below found at Wikipedia web site. So I don't doubt what you say. Somehow these two slipped through the cracks as I have read many of the postings on the Kenyan's ineligibility. Doesn't look good at all. Rubio, I was aware of.
To sum it up:
Mitt Romney born to a native born mother (Lenore) and father (George) who was born in Mexico who's mother and father where natural born citizens.

Rick Santorum mother (Catherine, native born citizen), father (Aldo -- immigrated to USA from Italy at age 7). Questionable citizenship and or date when father became a American citizen, but obviously father was not what is considered a natural born citizen.

Do not feel obliged to respond. I will follow through with a more extensive study from the tons of posts on the NBC issue at this site.
116 posted on 02/27/2012 11:09:20 AM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: House Atreides

His father was born in mexico, and failed to ever declare US citizenship upon entry to the US.

George Romney’s candidacy was a bad joke on the American people.


117 posted on 02/27/2012 11:36:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

“His father was born in mexico, and failed to ever declare US citizenship upon entry to the US.

George Romney’s candidacy was a bad joke on the American people.”
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Well, I’ve never declared US citizenship upon my numerous returns to CONUS from military duty overseas. That doesn’t make me an alien or non-citizen. I believe that there was a federal court decision/opinion that John McCain was a “natural born citizen” (and thus eligible for the Presidency) despite being born overseas because at the time of his birth both his parents were US citizens.

The following is an extract that may be relevant to this discussion.

“Romney’s great-grandfather, Miles Park Romney, fled the United States and crossed into Mexico in 1885 to escape religious persecution. He helped build the Mormon enclave of Colonia Juarez in Chihuahua.

Miles Park Romney never became a Mexican citizen, and neither did his son, Gaskell, or grandson, George. They were all denied Mexican citizenship because statutes on the books in Mexico denied that right to American settlers and their offspring.”

Here’s a link to the article (from that notoriously pro-Republican CNN) from which the above was extracted:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/12/opinion/romney-hispanic-roots/index.html?eref=rss_politics&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_allpolitics+%28RSS%3A+Politics%29

There DEFINITELY IS an issue with Obama not being a natural born citizen. I don’t think it is helpful in maintaining clarity on this issue by blowing a bunch of misleading “smoke” on this. It distracts from the true issues. And I agree that Rubio is NOT a natural born citizen. But he is also NOT a candidate for the Presidency.


118 posted on 02/27/2012 2:43:19 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

There is a deadline for children born to US parents out of country to establish their US alegiance, and George Romney never made any effort to do so. (your straw argument not withstanding)


119 posted on 02/27/2012 4:15:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

There is a deadline for children born to US parents out of country to establish their US alegiance, and George Romney never made any effort to do so. (your straw argument not withstanding)
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Well Dude, if that’s so, could you please cite the specific law(s) and/or regulation(s) that have such a requirement. If that is indeed true, I have to let a number of my friends who had kids born overseas (while in service) know so the kids can take the needed steps to “establish their US allegiance”.

I’m sure there are a number of FReepers who have such children with their allegiance to the United States “unestablished” - and/or who have friends in that same boat.


120 posted on 02/27/2012 5:48:44 PM PST by House Atreides
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