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Iran prepares for kamikaze attacks
WND ^ | 2/24/2012 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 02/26/2012 7:18:11 PM PST by U-238

Even as it continued to talk with the U.N. nuclear watchdog, Iran continued to prepare for war over its nuclear weapons program, training for kamikaze attacks in the Persian Gulf with both planes and speedboats, sources within the Iranian armed forces report.

Ads by GooglePeople Search-Search Free 1) Enter Any Name & Search Free! 2) Get Phone, Address, Age & More. www.intelius.comA 9mm is False Protection Discover What Survivalist Masters & The Army Don't Want You To Know www.CloseCombatTraining.comTuesday the International Atomic Energy Agency called its recent talks with Iran a failure. And just days before, Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, ordered the Revolutionary Guards, along with the army, on high alert, ready with conventional and unconventional means to respond to any aggression by the U.S. or Israel over its nuclear weapons program, the sources say.

The Guards’ missile commanders, in their preparation for a fierce counterattack, have mapped out all U.S. bases in the region to strike with their missiles in order to disrupt America’s air sorties, believing they will be the main thrust of any attack by America.

The Guards’ publication Mashregh, in a warning to America, revealed a detailed plan to attack U.S. bases in the region, including, in Kuwait, two air bases, Ali Al Salem and Ahmed Al Jaber, and the U.S. military camps of Buehring, Spearhead, Patriot and Arifjan. Also targeted are U.S. air bases in Afghanistan, the super U.S. base Al Adid in Qatar, its other super base at Al Dhafra in the United Arab Emirates and Thumrait Air Base in Oman.

Guards’ plans include the launch of ballistic missiles at the narrow Strait of Hormuz from deep within Iran to disrupt the flow of oil and destabilize the world economy.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fifthfleet; iran; irgc; persiangulf; straitofhormuz

1 posted on 02/26/2012 7:18:17 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

Japan is going to mount suicide attacks on Iran?


2 posted on 02/26/2012 7:24:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: U-238

“Prepares for” or trains for? Sheesh!


3 posted on 02/26/2012 7:25:18 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
I would say trains for.

Wonder how that worked for Japan?
Oh yeh, they lost just like Iran would.

4 posted on 02/26/2012 7:27:38 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I worked on the Phalanx Program....open up with one of those on one of those “speed boats” or an airplane there won’t be much left of it, if it even gets to within 100 yards of a US ship. It will be splinters a half mile out.


5 posted on 02/26/2012 7:31:30 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Ouderkirk

That is what I thought, but because of rules of engagment we can’t fire until fired upon.


6 posted on 02/26/2012 7:33:48 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Ouderkirk
I worked on the Phalanx Program

Yep, I remember having to wear the earplugs when you were on deck and that thing let rip.

Bring on the kamikazes.

7 posted on 02/26/2012 7:34:24 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Ouderkirk
I worked on the Phalanx Program....open up with one of those on one of those “speed boats” or an airplane there won’t be much left of it, if it even gets to within 100 yards of a US ship. It will be splinters a half mile out.

Allahu FUBAR!

8 posted on 02/26/2012 7:35:28 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: U-238

After the Cole incident, I am doubtful that their ‘speedboats’ will get close enough to do any crippling damage. And if (highly unlikely) a plane can get past the Navy/USAF jets, it still has to deal with anti-missle/Phalanx systems.

Let them try. The sooner we end these POS idiots, the better for the world. This crap has been going on since Carter. Enough.


9 posted on 02/26/2012 7:35:56 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks U-238..
10 posted on 02/26/2012 7:36:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Fortune favors the prepared mind.


11 posted on 02/26/2012 7:38:11 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

And a prepared carrier group ;)


12 posted on 02/26/2012 7:41:44 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree. It will be one hell of a firefight.


13 posted on 02/26/2012 7:43:25 PM PST by U-238
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To: LukeL

Wasn’t Obama pretty ticked off at our SEALs because they made a rescue from Somali pirates even though he told them not to? And didn’t Panetta say at one point that he gave the order for the SEALs to go ahead with the Bin Laden assassination against Obama’s wishes?

Obama has flipped the bird at our military men so many times he should expect them to flip him right back, when the nation’s security is on the line - especially since Judge Denise Lind ruled that the lawfulness of combat orders has nothing to do with being authorized by the President. Whichever guy has seniority among those who sees a kamikaze coming has only to say, “Shoot” and that’s all the more authorization anybody needs - if what Denise Lind ruled in the court-martial against Terry Lakin actually counts for anything.

Stick it in your ear, Obama. What goes around comes around.


14 posted on 02/26/2012 7:44:53 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: U-238

I remember back when Iran first suggested using mass speedboat attacks. The USN harrumphed some concern, then soon announced “no problem”, in soft tones. I assume that, send a hundred or send a thousand, it won’t matter.

They will become little more than finely chopped flotsam.


15 posted on 02/26/2012 7:47:26 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: U-238

I think the biggest mistake we made was holding back the “Shock and Awe” in Iraq. Granted, it was impressive, but since all muslims understand is violence, I am of full belief that we visit enough on them at one time to melt gun barrels and burn up jet engines.

Reducing the Iranian military by 100% would be a good start. Then we could get serious about it. God knows we have it within our power. We just lack leadership with a sense of justice, logical foreign policy right and wrong.


16 posted on 02/26/2012 7:50:09 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: U-238
The Iranian navy is awesome.


17 posted on 02/26/2012 7:50:34 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

There is a slight addition to the speedboats. Iran has a large amount of mini-subs that were purchased from North Korea.Ghadir class and Yono class mini submarines to be exact.A Yono class submarine was involved in the Cheonen affair in the Korean peninsula.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 7:52:21 PM PST by U-238
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To: butterdezillion

Obama keeps claiming credit for Osama.
But think about it a little more. When the military and intel laid it out,, and said “there he is”.

In effect, it was telling him,, “if you don’t act, soon, we will tell the world that you know where he is, and won’t act. They had him in a corner,, Obama gets no credit for anything. He was dragged kicking and screaming. The Military and intel know for a few months where he was, got tired of Obama BS, and forced his hand.


19 posted on 02/26/2012 7:52:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: U-238
HOZE-EM!!!

20 posted on 02/26/2012 7:56:22 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ouderkirk

How does the Phalanx target inbound sea and air bad guys if there were 50 or 60 coming at once? Closest first? Airborne or sea first? Computers run all of the targeting? Thanks in advance. (Those Phalanx jobs sure beat the old 20mm, 40mm, and quad .50 cals from the few short vieos I have seen).


21 posted on 02/26/2012 7:58:49 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: bobby.223

An impenetrable wall of metal basically from what I gather.


22 posted on 02/26/2012 8:01:14 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: bobby.223
I have seen DoD briefings from contractors which adequately assure me that targeting will not be a problem until we run out of ammo.

Cheers!

23 posted on 02/26/2012 8:02:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DesertRhino

And for doing that, the SEALs got their details blabbed all over and 22 from that SEALs team were shot down/killed at once by the Taliban less than 2 months later.

After the Obama people refusing to show any proof that Bin Laden was dead, staging a photo of everybody looking intently at a screen, changing the details of the story, and generally acting about as credible on this issue as they’ve been on the eligibility issue, Fast & Furious, Solyndra, or any number of other issues, those SEALs being shot down at that particular time seemed a little too convenient...

I suppose in Heaven we won’t much care about what we’ve already been through, but I sure hope I will one day get some real answers about what’s been going on, because I sure as heck don’t trust the answers the idiots in charge are giving us.


24 posted on 02/26/2012 8:15:45 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Norm Lenhart
And if (highly unlikely) a plane can get past the Navy/USAF jets, it still has to deal with anti-missile/Phalanx systems.

That is if 0bummer doesn't have them eliminated on the basis of giving an unfair advantage to a "super power" against an inferior enemy. After reducing our nuclear arsenal by 80%, who knows what's next?

25 posted on 02/26/2012 8:22:56 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: grey_whiskers

“I have seen DoD briefings from contractors which adequately assure me that targeting will not be a problem until we run out of ammo.”

Forgive me for asking an impertinent question, but how long can those things work before they run out of ammo?


26 posted on 02/26/2012 8:23:20 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Just another Joe
"Wonder how that worked for Japan?"

They lost two cities to crude, very small atomic bombs. One Trident missile (not one salvo, one missile) could totally destroy every major to mid-level city in Iran.

27 posted on 02/26/2012 8:25:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: grey_whiskers
I have seen DoD briefings from contractors which adequately assure me that targeting will not be a problem until we run out of ammo.

What happens when a wave of suicide boats comes in equipped with multiple rocket launcher tubes and each rocket is a chaff/flare dispenser? If when just beyond range of the MK-38 (25mm) each wave of boats begins firing the chaff/flares ahead of them a few hundred meters, can they continue advancing in the shadow of the chaff cloud(s)?

28 posted on 02/26/2012 8:27:19 PM PST by fso301
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To: bobby.223

“How does the Phalanx target inbound sea and air bad guys if there were 50 or 60 coming at once?”

It basically gets them all at once. Imagine a solid wall of armor piercing rounds — 4,500 rounds a minute or so. R2-D2 is a nasty little beast.


29 posted on 02/26/2012 8:28:59 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Road Glide

At the rate those things fire, I bet its not more than 20 minutes.


30 posted on 02/26/2012 8:29:58 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: DesertRhino

RE post 19. Precisely.


31 posted on 02/26/2012 8:39:33 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: luvbach1

Hopefully he’ll be unemployed before they even process the paperwork on the nukes, much less do anything to dismantle them. As for the rest, I can’t see the military going along once the bullets start flying.

They will only accept so much and I don’t think any are that suicidal. At least I hope not.


32 posted on 02/26/2012 8:42:14 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Ouderkirk
I worked on the Phalanx Program....open up with one of those on one of those “speed boats” or an airplane there won’t be much left of it, if it even gets to within 100 yards of a US ship. It will be splinters a half mile out.

The question is how fast can you reload a Phalanx after it has shot off its magazine? How much ammunition does a destroyer/frigate carry? If the Iranians target 100 speedboats at a destroyer/frigate, can you get them all? 200? 300? I hear the Iranians are talking about 300 boat attacks.

Imagine a destroyer with its Phalanx dry and unable to reload because Iranian sharpshooters make it impossible for the crew to reach the equipment. Or can the Phalanx be reloaded without the crew exposing itself? Since I'm not sure of the mechanics of the reloading process I don't know if this can be a problem. The only picture I've seen shows 7 crewmen with one long belt of ammunition draped over their shoulders as they reload. Looks very slow.

33 posted on 02/27/2012 12:49:50 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: U-238
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You broke the code that launches the attacks. Good work!

34 posted on 02/27/2012 2:24:13 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: Cheburashka
“destroyer with its Phalanx dry “

If the weapon cannot be reload from below deck, then some idiot forgot that Navy ships are equipped to fight in a Chemical or Nuclear environment.

35 posted on 02/27/2012 3:55:49 AM PST by Makana
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To: fso301; Road Glide
"Loose Lips Sink Ships."

Cheers!

36 posted on 02/27/2012 4:18:55 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ouderkirk
I worked on the Phalanx Program....open up with one of those on one of those “speed boats” or an airplane there won’t be much left of it,

Yes, a one second burst from a Phalanx will shred a speed boat, putting about 75 rounds per second down-range. The Phalanx has enough ammo for about 20 such bursts before its magazine is exhausted.

It then needs five minutes for the crew to swap in a fresh mag while they watch speed boats 21 thru 40 approaching.

37 posted on 02/27/2012 4:33:44 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Cheburashka

If the Iranians target 100 speedboats at a destroyer/frigate, can you get them all? 200? 300? I hear the Iranians are talking about 300 boat attacks.


How about a 50 yr old aircraft carrier ? The big E is set to leave norfolk for the gulf this week.

Sacrificial lamb ? False flag ?


38 posted on 02/27/2012 4:40:38 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Cheburashka
The question is how fast can you reload a Phalanx after it has shot off its magazine? How much ammunition does a destroyer/frigate carry? If the Iranians target 100 speedboats at a destroyer/frigate, can you get them all? 200? 300? I hear the Iranians are talking about 300 boat attacks.

I would hope that each ship has at least twenty Marines with .50 cal machine guns for final-stage defense.

39 posted on 02/27/2012 4:45:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: maine yankee
How about a 50 yr old aircraft carrier ? The big E is set to leave norfolk for the gulf this week.

WW2-era warships had enough rapid-firing guns for anti-aircraft work that they would be invulnerable to low-tech speedboat attacks.

It would be nice if we had a cluster-munition that could scatter a few thousand grenade-size floating mines in front of the speedboat wave. Just the right size to destroy a speedboat, but harmless against a steel-hulled ship.

40 posted on 02/27/2012 4:54:33 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: LukeL

And then there is the US Cole rule:
rules of engagment: we can’t fire until fired upon, and all weapons to be kept unloaded and ammo in locked magazines.

Will Zero bring it back for these upcoming “special occasions”?


41 posted on 02/27/2012 5:30:18 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: maine yankee

The big E is set to leave norfolk for the gulf this week.

Sacrificial lamb ? False flag ?

Fire sale. We need the money and Zero sold it to the Iranians.

They will take possession when it arrives in port. The smuggled Russian navalized SUs will be load up. Russian piolts debarked in Syria from the aircraft carrier than just left will do the flying under Iranian colors a la the Korean war.

The shinny new Russian early warning radar installed in Syria will do the tracking from the Med to the Golan to Saudia Arabia.

The Chinese navy will man the Iranian minisubs with token Iranian navy personel aboard.


42 posted on 02/27/2012 5:57:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PapaBear3625
I would hope that each ship has at least twenty Marines with .50 cal machine guns for final-stage defense.

You can hope that all you want, but Marines are no longer assigned as part of a ship's complement, and haven't been for about 20 years.
43 posted on 02/27/2012 7:13:40 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: Ouderkirk

The problem is if they swarm and run the Phalanx out of ammo. Hopefully they will be detected several miles away and taken out with Cobra attack helos.


44 posted on 02/27/2012 9:03:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: PapaBear3625
This assumes that

a) the Phalanx is the only defensive weapon which will be brought to bear

b) the carrier won't make tracks at 30 knots away from the speedboats

c) speedboats 21-40 are going to be at *all* eager to continue pressing the assault after watching their friends being turned into a red mist to absolutely *NO* effect on the Americans.

Cheers!

45 posted on 02/27/2012 7:48:12 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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