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Poll: Romney's Mormon faith may not hurt him in TN
Nashville Tennessean | 2/27/12 | Chas Sisk

Posted on 02/27/2012 9:32:01 AM PST by SmithL

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Santorum will win Tennessee's Super Tuesday Primary, and in November, I and most Tennesseans, will support whoever isn't Obama.
1 posted on 02/27/2012 9:32:04 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I would think it will be Romney’s liberalism and duplicity that will hurt him in TN.


2 posted on 02/27/2012 9:36:44 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: SmithL

There’s only one faith that would prevent me from voting for a candidate, and it’s not Mormon.

I’ll not vote for RINOmney simply because he is only slightly less of a vapid dork than the Obamaloon.

If I want total vapid dorkiness, I’ll go for the whole Obama-chalada.


3 posted on 02/27/2012 9:37:58 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SmithL

Versus Obama.... yeah, not so much.

Versus Santorum... Romney, the future Mormon god and his cult followers are absolute toast.


4 posted on 02/27/2012 9:41:46 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: SmithL

There are a lot of people in TN who wouldn’t vote for Romney because he is Mormon. I’m one of them.

But Romney wouldn’t get my vote if he was Christian either, because he is a liberal.


5 posted on 02/27/2012 9:43:28 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SmithL
Draw a line from Nashville -- East thru Cookeville...
Then on to Knoxville---
...And back down thru Chattanooga....
To close the loop @ Nashville....

Welcome to the "Buckle of The Bible Belt"...

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The Tennessean article/poll compares Romney to Obama...
(IMO --this is an editorial advocacy piece w/a general election question as a smoke screen)

As long as it is still a primary season -- and the Christian voters have a choice OTHER than Romney...

Ummm....
Don't count your angels until they hatch...

6 posted on 02/27/2012 9:45:14 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: SmithL

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“He Was There” by Jack Bond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSQZsDvMc_M&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_391476

From the link:
“Rick Santorum feels we should stick to our core principles, constitutional as well as spiritual; we can’t do this without God! This song was written with these values in mind, echoing the unvarnished record and beliefs of a man of Faith, Rick Santorum.” -Jack Bond, 1-28-12, Feast of St. Thomas Aquinas

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7 posted on 02/27/2012 9:47:38 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: SmithL

I hear an awful lot of folks attacking Santorum’s Catholicism, but I don’t hear anyone attacking Mormonism.


8 posted on 02/27/2012 9:47:54 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SmithL

When I first heard he was a Mormon the last time he ran I said “No Way”. One must have good smarts and common sense to be POTUS. A Mormon doesn’t qualify. That’s my call.


9 posted on 02/27/2012 9:48:23 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: xzins

I think FR makes up for any lack of Mormon attacks this election year.


10 posted on 02/27/2012 9:49:46 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: SmithL

His mormonism is all the more reason not to vote for him, even if he wins the nomination.

Add that to his extreme socialist record as Gov., his lies, etc.

I will never vote for him, ever.


11 posted on 02/27/2012 9:51:26 AM PST by madmaximus (Romney=Hitler Obama=Stalin. Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: SmithL

12 posted on 02/27/2012 9:52:42 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...

Ping


13 posted on 02/27/2012 9:53:08 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (If mormonism is Christianity, then "off" is a TV channel.)
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To: jimbo123

“I would think it will be Romney’s liberalism and duplicity that will hurt him in TN.”

You would be correct!


14 posted on 02/27/2012 9:53:12 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: xzins

The evil, lying, Satan attacks on Santorum are coming from the GOP-e, Romney camp and DNC groups that hate what Santorum stands for... Our Lord and His teachings.


15 posted on 02/27/2012 9:56:52 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: xzins

“I hear an awful lot of folks attacking Santorum’s Catholicism...”

I feel sorry for such folks. We ALL need to focus on the vital importance of the upcoming election...the most crucial in our history!


16 posted on 02/27/2012 9:56:52 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

upcoming election...the most crucial in our history!

Yes, and I think most voters know this.


17 posted on 02/27/2012 10:01:35 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: stuartcr

And every year. People got really sick at the nonsense that went on last year, title change threads, Mods moving religious forum to breaking news, etc. etc. The all out attack has been prevalent for some time. It’s largely inconsequential, as the religious bigotry is more of a turn off to good people.

In any event I don’t like Romney’s big government ideas. The only person lower than him in that regard in this race is Santorum. No one in the race is perfect, but they’re the two biggest government liberals left in the race. I think Newt will be a better conservative if his feet were held to the fire. Ron Paul’s a Constitutional conservative, but may get us all killed with his “Iranians just want to be friends” mantra. The Constitution allows for people being stupid (it’s up to us to weed them out), it doesn’t allow for a giant nanny state.


18 posted on 02/27/2012 10:23:50 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: xzins

What I find freaky about religion and the 2012 primary, is that if a Catholic Bishop, especially one believed to be destined to become a Cardinal or possibly Pope after his Presidency, were running for the GOP nomination, he and his church would come under deep scrutiny.

Bishop Romney is that guy, except not in a Christian church, but in a secretive cult.

As a Bishop and then a Stake President, Bishop Romney is expected to ascend higher in the Mormon church to at least the level of Cardinal, and possibly to the position of Prophet or Pope, as his uncle was in line to be when death claimed him. Mitt is also the son of a Bishop and is believed by many Mormons to be the fulfillment of the White Horse Prophecy.


19 posted on 02/27/2012 10:30:16 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JDW11235

There is no comparison between Santorum and Romney.

Santorum is right when he says that conservatism is not libertarianism. Conservatism historically has accepted a low level of government involvement in both social and economic affairs. For example, it is right, in my view, for the government to support natural marriage with thru such things as spousal sharing of social security benefits.

That supports the rearing of children and the sharing of that load by both mother and father.


20 posted on 02/27/2012 10:46:49 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

“Conservatism historically has accepted a low level of government involvement in both social and economic affairs.”

Exactly why neither is a conservative, thanks for pointing that out.


21 posted on 02/27/2012 10:58:30 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: JoeProBono

No carseats for the children ???

No seatbelts ???


22 posted on 02/27/2012 11:00:52 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: SmithL

The Tennessean

a lib newspaper that is pushing Romney..

Wait till he gets the nomination...


23 posted on 02/27/2012 11:02:46 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: SmithL
Poll: Romney's Mormon faith may not hurt him in TN

Keep on whistling, as you're almost past the graveyard.

24 posted on 02/27/2012 11:13:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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Subheadline: Voters fear Romney's 'cult' less than they do Obama

Sub-Subheadline: Voters fear Romney's 'cult' more than they do Santorum's.

25 posted on 02/27/2012 11:14:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: xzins
I hear an awful lot of folks attacking Santorum’s Catholicism, but I don’t hear anyone attacking Mormonism.

HMMmm...

I wonder if the ATTACKERS are MORMONs themselves??

26 posted on 02/27/2012 11:19:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: xzins
I hear an awful lot of folks attacking Santorum’s Catholicism, but I don’t hear anyone attacking Mormonism.

They have to actually KNOW a bit about it, before they can 'attack' it successfully.

27 posted on 02/27/2012 11:20:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: xzins
I hear an awful lot of folks attacking Santorum’s Catholicism, but I don’t hear anyone attacking Mormonism.

Just wait until the PROTESTANTS hear about this!!!


Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

28 posted on 02/27/2012 11:22:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: stuartcr
I think FR makes up for any lack of Mormon attacks this election year.

Oh HELL no!

Just wait until our MATERIAL gets into the MSM's hands!

29 posted on 02/27/2012 11:24:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JDW11235
The all out attack has been prevalent for some time.

SShhhhush!

Do NOT alert them!



30 posted on 02/27/2012 11:26:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JDW11235
It’s largely inconsequential, as the religious bigotry is more of a turn off to good people.

When the 'good people' read the BIGOTRY found in #28; things may go in a different direction!

31 posted on 02/27/2012 11:28:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

“Draw a line from Nashville — East thru Cookeville... Then on to Knoxville-— ...And back down thru Chattanooga.... To close the loop @ Nashville.... Welcome to the “Buckle of The Bible Belt”...”

We’re in “the buckle”, and love it. People here are very informed about Mormonism and Catholicism — and liberalism. I doubt if Romney will prevail in the area.


32 posted on 02/27/2012 11:31:35 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: xzins

“I hear an awful lot of folks attacking Santorum’s Catholicism, but I don’t hear anyone attacking Mormonism.”

if you haven’t heard anyone attacking mormonism, just continue to read Free Republic, and checkout any thread discussing Mitt Romney. there are plenty of folks here claiming to be Christian who have plenty to say in judgment about mormon beliefs and practices versus their perspective on who is Christian and who is not.

Go Newt.


33 posted on 02/27/2012 11:46:55 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: Elsie

Actually most people have learned to ignore your cut and paste, Ted Turneresque posts. But honey, you just look for the truth, and one day you’ll find it. See ya.


34 posted on 02/27/2012 11:58:18 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: IWONDR
There is no judgment of any individuals, just of Mormonism as a whole. As Christians are instructed to do in the Bible its self, confront false teaching especially those that use the name of Christ.

There is no “perspective” on what system is Christian in this instance, the facts are readily available.

35 posted on 02/27/2012 12:00:12 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: JDW11235

IBTZ


36 posted on 02/27/2012 12:10:35 PM PST by madmaximus (Romney=Hitler Obama=Stalin. Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Elsie

Isn’t all of the media that people watch, really the mainstream?


37 posted on 02/27/2012 12:18:49 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: ansel12

“As a Bishop and then a Stake President, Bishop Romney is expected to ascend higher in the Mormon church to at least the level of Cardinal, and possibly to the position of Prophet or Pope, as his uncle was in line to be when death claimed him.”

where have you heard this expectation that Romney is expected to ascend to the position of prophet? is this from a mormon source? if you look at the mormon heirarchy, Romney has a number of other folks that are more likely to become the next prophet of the mormon church than he is. the mormons call these folks apostles, and i don’t believe that Romney is an apostle. recheck your sources for clarification.


38 posted on 02/27/2012 1:34:56 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: SmithL
Poll: Romney's Mormon faith may not hurt him in TN

I think it's his liberal faith that's going to hurt him.
39 posted on 02/27/2012 1:39:29 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Elsie

“I wonder if the ATTACKERS are MORMONs themselves??”

i wonder if some of the attackers of Romney on Free Republic are ex-mormons, or have been hurt by mormons in some manner, or are Christians who believe that mormonism is not what they consider to be a truly Christian belief system?


40 posted on 02/27/2012 1:44:16 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: ejonesie22

“There is no “perspective” on what system is Christian in this instance, the facts are readily available.”

why are their so many different denominations of Protestantism, if it doesn’t have to do with their different perspectives on various aspects of Christianity?


41 posted on 02/27/2012 2:11:37 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: IWONDR

As an old pro-Romney/Mormonism poster here of many years, you should already know that many of our Mormon experts are ex-Mormon themselves, and that as far as being anti-Romney, well, freerepublic is anti-Romney, we are conservatives.

By now you should also know that all of the Christian churches agree that Mormonism is not Christian.


42 posted on 02/27/2012 2:16:20 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: IWONDR

I said that Romney is expected to rise to the level of Cardinal, and that it is possible that he could rise to the level of Prophet.

You dismiss Romney ever being promoted again?


43 posted on 02/27/2012 2:20:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JDW11235

Is it “religious bigotry” if we don’t want a Muslim to be president? A religion is a powerfully defining factor in what someone’s world view, beliefs, temperament, ethics, values and personality is. It also defines what kind of people and groups will have influence on that person. To say that it’s “religious bigotry” to consider someone’s religion a factor when choosing whether or not to vote for them is totally uncalled for. I don’t know a whole lot about the Mormon religion, but I feel I would be obligated to learn a whole lot more about it before voting someone from its ranks into the presidency. It would be a dereliction of duty by a web site or media outlet to not report on the faith and try to educate people on it as much as possible when someone from it is this close to the presidency.


44 posted on 02/27/2012 2:20:39 PM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: Elsie

LOL!!

They look so dorky, almost on the edge of creepy!


45 posted on 02/27/2012 2:24:42 PM PST by JRochelle (Note to the MSM: Unemployment has been higher under every month of Obama than any month under Bush.)
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To: IWONDR

“Claiming to be Christian”?

Naw, just adhering to what we’ve been admonished to do in the Bible.

I take it you’re not a Christian? Or are you of the Oprah variety?

http://www.christianissues.biz/judging.html


46 posted on 02/27/2012 2:28:51 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: JediJones

You’re presenting a false dichotomy, and I don’t respond to those. That having been said, I fully expect you to do your due diligence in making that type of decision. That’s not the bigotry (what a ridiculous notion). And you should vote your conscience, it’s your civic duty. Now, go peruse some of the moronic jpegs and technicolor theo-babble, and you can get all the bigotry you’re willing to stand. They’re on many a thread.


47 posted on 02/27/2012 2:36:53 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: IWONDR
there are plenty of folks here claiming to be Christian who have plenty to say in judgment about mormon beliefs and practices versus their perspective on who is Christian and who is not.

There sure are!

And they tend to go to an LDS 'church'!

48 posted on 02/27/2012 3:13:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JDW11235
Actually most people have learned to ignore your cut and paste, Ted Turneresque posts.

Oh, don't I know it!

I don't know WHY, when MORMONs are confronted with their own chosen religious organizations very own writings; they just IGNORE them?

Do you have an explanation?

49 posted on 02/27/2012 3:15:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: stuartcr

Yup.

I would venture to say that FR is NOT ‘mainstream’.


50 posted on 02/27/2012 3:16:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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