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Santorum's emphasis on his Christianity is not good for democracy
The Baltimore Sun ^ | February 27, 2012 | Faheem Younus

Posted on 02/27/2012 4:33:07 PM PST by presidio9

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To: presidio9

Stop your crap. I don’t appreciate being “talked down to,” about my religion or beliefs. I call myself a catholic and the only being that will ever have the power to judge my faith and intent is Jesus Christ. Your post reminds me of a Rick Santorum stump speech.


51 posted on 02/27/2012 7:24:57 PM PST by Toespi
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To: okie01
And I don't blame them.

They have good reason to fear.

Any man can face down the devil if he has faith in God. Even the devil fears a godly mortal.
52 posted on 02/27/2012 7:33:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.

Pretty much true. Even if Jesus turns out to be a fraud, there is still a need for respect for authority.

Once a belief's tenets are shown to be false, it's finished....Muslim or Christian.

Anarchy follows.

53 posted on 02/27/2012 7:33:19 PM PST by stboz
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To: Toespi; presidio9

“There is sin and evil in the world, and we’re enjoined by Scripture and the Lord Jesus to oppose it with all our might.” - Ronald Reagan, Evil Empire speech

http://www.nationalcenter.org/ReaganEvilEmpire1983.html


54 posted on 02/27/2012 7:44:56 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: A Navy Vet
The Crusades were a series of wars undertaken to defend Christianity and Western Civilization. The Muslims had all but conquered Europe.
55 posted on 02/27/2012 7:52:19 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: Toespi
Stop your crap. I don’t appreciate being “talked down to,” about my religion or beliefs. I call myself a catholic and the only being that will ever have the power to judge my faith and intent is Jesus Christ. Your post reminds me of a Rick Santorum stump speech.

I am not talking down to you. I am reminding you of facts. For example, we don't get to pick which aspects of Catholicism we find convenient and throw away the rest. We either follow the rules as presented to us, or we can invent our own religion, which is similiar to Catholicism, but not the same thing. This may make you feel uncomfortable, but shooting the messanger won't change the facts.

56 posted on 02/27/2012 7:53:33 PM PST by presidio9 (catholicscomehome.org)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Somewhere in that speech I am sure Ronald Reagan must have also expressed that JFK made him “throw up.”


57 posted on 02/27/2012 7:55:40 PM PST by Toespi
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To: katiedidit1
I don’t make “baseless” attacks. I point out facts.

Not accusing you of anything, just looking for a character referrence. I believe my support of Newt Gingrich speaks for itself.

That being said, after Michigan and Arizona, either Rick or Newt must go or we're going to be stuck with Romney. That I can not tolerate.

58 posted on 02/27/2012 7:56:28 PM PST by presidio9 (catholicscomehome.org)
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To: katiedidit1
I don’t make “baseless” attacks. I point out facts.

Not accusing you of anything, just looking for a character referrence. I believe my support of Newt Gingrich speaks for itself.

That being said, after Michigan and Arizona, either Rick or Newt must go or we're going to be stuck with Romney. That I can not tolerate.

59 posted on 02/27/2012 7:56:54 PM PST by presidio9 (catholicscomehome.org)
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To: Toespi

I’m a Catholic, and I also give a barf for JFK!


60 posted on 02/27/2012 8:03:48 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: presidio9
No, Newt should not go..if he wins Georgia that is 76 delegates and will put him over one hundred. He should win other states in the south too. This election is still very fluid. Noone thought Newt stood a chance in Michigan..look at the demagraphics.

Newt may do very well in Texas with Norris and Perrys help and in Ohio too. He just got mega millions from Adelson to continue on...break up the delegates and hang in is what I want Newt to do.

Rush Limbaugh said today that Newt could very well make a come back..Santorum got a free pass for a looooooooooooong time as Mitt attacked Newt to the tune of millions and so did Fox and the establishment. I can't stand Santorum..he is a pious fraud

61 posted on 02/28/2012 7:27:28 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Toespi
Today he attacked JFK, saying what he said “made him want to throw up.”.

What JFK said ought to make anyone throw up. He effectively said that his religion had nothing to do with how he would govern. In other words, his religion is something he does for an hour each weekend. The rest of the time, it has nothing to do with how he lives his life. The technical term for that is "hypocrisy".

In the case of John Kennedy, that was (a) something he said to give Protestants the warm-and-fuzzies; and (b) quite literally true. He went to Mass on Sunday, and spent the rest of the week seducing 19-year-old interns, pimping them out to his friends, cutting the rug out from under the heroes who wanted to liberate Cuba, risking all-out nuclear war through his weakness before Khruschev in Vienna, cutting the rug out from under our allies in South Vietnam, scr*wing an East German agent and a Mafia moll when he wasn't seducing his teenage intern ... shall I go on?

JFK, and what he said in the Houston speech, ought to make anyone who loves America throw up.

62 posted on 02/28/2012 8:20:36 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: presidio9

WE
ARE
NOT
A
DEMOCRACY

A$$HAT!!!


63 posted on 02/28/2012 8:30:33 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Campion

Do you know that Santorum has already issued a statement that he regrets what he said about wanting to vomit? Why do you think he is sorry? Because of the blowback of yet another santorum brain/mouth coordination problem. I am not a fan of JFK or his thoughts on the subject. Santorums statement was crude, elementary, and lacked dignity, that is the issue. He just falls right into the picture liberals love to paint of conservatives.


64 posted on 02/28/2012 8:33:08 PM PST by Toespi
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To: presidio9
(Article) (font color="forestgreen">Watching Rick Santorum ... is like watching the sequel of a horror movie — one I literally lived through in the 1980s while growing up in Pakistan. ... religious zealot, Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, played the lead role of the real Muslim.

You've posted articles like this twice today. This one is on Christians participating in politics, by a Mohammedan Islamist. The other one was a Richard Cohen hit-piece against Santorum for basically not being okay with gay and willing to "flex" on abortion and other irrelevant, non-presidential, out-of-bounds issues.

So what is the point of posting these guys, presidio9 ..... unless you think Christian social conservatives are the moral equivalent of Taliban, and are

RELIGIOUS BIGOTS AND FANATICS
who want to
BURN EVERYBODY AT THE STAKE

..... and you want to see them excluded 100% from public life pro bono? Come on, step up. Man up, and quit chipping little snarky chipshots (using borrowed voices, Newsweak-style) from the sidelines. Spit it out -- RELIGION IS BAD, 'ngkay? And religious people need to be cast out, got rid of. Yes? Maybe disenfranchised by a test of their religious "suitability" for presenting to the secularizing public? Locked in the national attic like a crazy uncle?

Talk to us. Signify.

65 posted on 02/28/2012 9:51:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Lauren BaRecall
The Crusades were a series of wars undertaken to defend Christianity and Western Civilization. The Muslims had all but conquered Europe.

No, the Seljuk Turks, after the Battle of Manzikert in, um, about 1071 or 1074 (Byzantine Greeks vs. Turks eastern Turkey [then the eastern frontier of the Greek Empire]), cut off all Christian access to Jerusalem. This provoked a papal call for Crusaders to take the city and restore communication of Christianity with its roots.

And fwiw, I have never seen a Moslem criticism of the Seljuks for their intolerant initiative (which departed from the Moslem policies of the previous 450 years), even considering the damage that was done to the Caliphate by the Crusades. It is never the Moslem's fault, always the unbeliever's.

66 posted on 02/28/2012 9:59:31 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
I strongly disagree with about 90% of the threads that I post to FR. I read FR for the responses, and I learn most of what I know there. I live and work in the NYC area. For the past 13 years I have relied on FR to help me counter every ridiculous point the liberals I am constantly surrounded come up with.

What's interesting about reading or responding to a thread that everyone here on FR agrees with? I you have a problem with that, the great thing about the internet (and this country in general) is that you can exercise your right not to read it.

67 posted on 03/01/2012 10:40:11 PM PST by presidio9 (catholicscomehome.org)
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