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http://www.redstate.com ^ | February 29, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 02/29/2012 4:38:53 AM PST by NKP_Vet

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Erick is absolutely right. Nominate Obama-light and no way in hell he beats the real deal in November.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 4:38:54 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m going to stand by my increasingly fervent idea that we won’t even make it to the elections. Something is in the works, I just know it.

If, by some grace of God, we make it to the elections, there will be so much fraud and corruption, ballot stuffing, vote buying, dead people, kids, dogs and cats voting that Obama will win by a landslide of fakery.

I have no hope left for this Republic. I’m only praying that I survive the coming onslaught against us long enough to see children to the age where they can be self-sufficient. War and pestilence are coming, I fear.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 4:43:18 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I have the same thoughts. Problem is that those ‘thoughts’ are really only a Hope. And as they say, “Hope aint’t a plan.”


3 posted on 02/29/2012 4:47:26 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: rarestia

Everyone keeps focusing on a political solution to solve a spiritual failing of the Christian church in the U.S.

The solution out of this mess is NOT by electing the next buffoon to the top spot, nor is it removing the current tyrant occupying the highest office. That is merely the symptom and consequence to the ROOT CAUSE of our nation’s problems.

Our ONLY HOPE, is that this nation has to go and pull a II Chronicles 7:14. This includes suffering the oppression of tyranny, upon which our Founders and patriarchs wisely understood was the result of national sins that required repentance.

The church had better get busy, because of not, and we don’t do II Chronicles 7:14 as a people, then like the period of evil Judges in ancient Israel, we will select worse and more evil until we are completely destroyed as there is no wisdom left in the land.

A people unwilling to be governed by God will be ruled by the tyranny of men. It’s that simple folks.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 4:59:52 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NKP_Vet

mittens has stated that he will not criticize the o. That is just one of the reasons I do not understand the support he has.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 5:05:34 AM PST by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: rarestia

Whoa - Calm down.
There is now way 0bama will win the election with $4++ gasoline. Even the college students, who are fed a constant diet of liberal fantasy, have woken up to 40% increases to tuition and a doubling of gas prices under this jerk. Oh when asked publicly they all love the Demonic-rats and 0bama; but privately they say otherwise.
I believe that there will be a low turnout for 0bama; they plan to stay home and not vote at all. Which will lead to a GOP landslide all the way down the ticket.
So cheer up.


7 posted on 02/29/2012 5:09:41 AM PST by CoastWatcher
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To: NKP_Vet

I hate to say it, but I believe the author is correct in his assessment that those outside the conservative “house” actually like Obama.

America is moving hard left, politically, and exacerbating this unfortunate condition is the fact 49.5% pay no federal income tax. They simply have no incentive to change. The system is rife with freebies from government-supplied food to housing, income to cell phones... all provided by the ever-dwindling ranks of taxpayers.

This doesn`t even address the rapidly growing demographic of hispanics, whose leanings are deep blue. The more political power they attain, the more our national “leaders” are to acquiesce to their demands to further open the borders and give amnesty and citizenship to illegals.

I do indeed pray about the future.. but my prayers are more directed toward boldly facing life in the “new” America... because it`s quite clear the old one isn`t coming back.


8 posted on 02/29/2012 5:19:21 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: INVAR

zzzzz

Yeah, I know, the political realm does not hold the answers to everything. Got it. I agree.

But it exists nonetheless. And it is important. The spiritual realm and the political realm are not mutually exclusive. Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves. You do not have the first part down.

zzzzzz


9 posted on 02/29/2012 5:24:47 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: NKP_Vet

Erick got one thing very very wrong however. The economy is not fixing itself - it will certainly tank under these high gas prices coming. I am stunned he fell for that.

Otherwise, he’s correct about Mitt.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 5:26:12 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: rarestia
If you actually want to get married, get a license and go to the JP.

Trying to disguise really ugly language with cute little characters doesn't accomplish anything. We still know you talk like that.

11 posted on 02/29/2012 5:29:57 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: mathluv
mittens has stated that he will not criticize the o.

When did he say that? Seems he's been criticizing him from the get-go which is music to my ears.

12 posted on 02/29/2012 5:32:57 AM PST by StarFan
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To: mathluv
mittens has stated that he will not criticize the o.

He did a pretty good job of it last night. He's taken incoming from the left and the right and in spite of splitting the vote four ways is still surviving. At what point do we stop discounting the actual voters? Santorum and Gingrich are going to split the conservative vote in the south. Who does that help? At this point I'm going with a reality check.

13 posted on 02/29/2012 5:33:12 AM PST by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: INVAR

Wow, if my memory were worse, I’d be certain that I had written these words....been saying the same thing for years.....

Thanks!


14 posted on 02/29/2012 5:38:23 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: rarestia

If, by some grace of God, we make it to the elections, there will be so much fraud and corruption, ballot stuffing, vote buying, dead people, kids, dogs and cats voting that Obama will win by a landslide of fakery.

...EGGZACTLY, I think you’re correct, with the Soros funded Sec of State project (already got us Al Franken-Sat Night Live in the Senate)and the bloated voter lists, the Acorn alums will be voting early and often and the stuffed ballot boxes will appear in a fleet of trunks across the country and especially in swing states. Indian reservations will vote twice their populations and anyone questioning it will be shouted down as racists... should be an interesting election season!

ymmv


15 posted on 02/29/2012 5:38:52 AM PST by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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Obama will win by a landslide of fakery

People underestimate the slap of reality that happens when you're filling up your gas tank at 5 zops a gallon....it's just you and the spiraling dollar-meter; no union goons or Chris Matthews to explain it all away.

$5 gas sends obama packing to Chicago.

16 posted on 02/29/2012 5:43:24 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Carterize Obama in November)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Erick got one thing very very wrong however. The economy is not fixing itself - it will certainly tank under these high gas prices coming. I am stunned he fell for that. Otherwise, he’s correct about Mitt.

I agree. Durable goods orders were down 4% last month. That's bad. I see the folks on CNBC talking about the Recession as if it's in the past, but I think that's very wrong. Soaring gas prices, European Union hanging on by a thread, our own out of control debt, virtually no domestic manufacturing - we've not seen anything yet.

I suspect the nondurable goods orders aren't faring so well either. My wife is a clearance rack shopper. She went out in January to buy next year's winter clothes for the grandkids. She's been doing this for years - she knows the system. She reports that it was slim pickins out there - worst selection she's ever seen. I fear the economy's heading into the toilet.

17 posted on 02/29/2012 5:45:13 AM PST by old and tired (Go Rick! Go Newt! Go ABR!)
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To: old and tired

You and I are of the same mind on the economy. Hold on.

And Erick, get a clue my man.


18 posted on 02/29/2012 5:51:35 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: NKP_Vet

The problem with Romney is:

1) He is the Establishment GOP’s candidate
2) He is a moderate and everytime the GOP has run a moderate, the other guys won (Dole, McCain)
3) Despite the claim that he is “electable”, he’s not
4) He is out-of-touch with conservative America
5) a Romney America will not be much different than an Obama America
6) If Romney is the nominee, Obama gets a second term.


19 posted on 02/29/2012 5:53:47 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: INVAR
A people unwilling to be governed by God will be ruled by the tyranny of men. It’s that simple folks.

I fully concur. For over 200 years we have enjoyed the blessings of God because we were focused on religious freedom.

But, because we have turned our backs on God, we seem to be surprised that we are no longer God's favorite.

20 posted on 02/29/2012 5:58:49 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: NKP_Vet

—...an economy that is fixing itself...—

Baloney.

This explains how the fuzzy numbers give them all those great stats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPkTItOXuN0


21 posted on 02/29/2012 6:06:13 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Cannot have one without the other.

As Adams wrote, Our Constitution is only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate to govern any other kind of people.

Because as Franklin noted, As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. And masters who would rule them with an iron fist.

Fix the spiritual problem first, and the political will follow. If you try to do this backwards as many are attempting to do, it will fail, along with the nation itself.

Without God being first in the lives of this people, men and their government will be made to replace God in all things. We are witness to this fact right now.

Which is why I said, if we will not be governed by God, we will be ruled by the tyranny of men.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 6:06:32 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: old and tired

—Soaring gas prices, European Union hanging on by a thread, our own out of control debt, virtually no domestic manufacturing - we’ve not seen anything yet.—

Exactly. A lot of change has happened the last couple of years. We will be living in a very different reality by the end of summer. That is the beginning of the end of the election cycle. Let’s see what the playing field looks like then. ;-)


23 posted on 02/29/2012 6:09:31 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: INVAR

——Fix the spiritual problem first, and the political will follow. If you try to do this backwards as many are attempting to do, it will fail, along with the nation itself.-——

It doesn’t have to be an either/or. It’s a both/and.


24 posted on 02/29/2012 6:10:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: NKP_Vet
Erick is absolutely right.

Moderate conservatives like Erick Erickson know absolutely nothing about economics. This economy is not 'fixing itself' and will not 'fix itself' any time soon. To suggest otherwise is simply to believe the regime's cooked books.

That said, never Romney. Ever.

25 posted on 02/29/2012 6:15:12 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: rarestia

“I just know it.” Seriously? I think something is going to happen also. The sun will rise, babies will be born, men will murder, people will fall in love, Spring will come, etc. etc. etc.


26 posted on 02/29/2012 6:42:58 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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The sun will rise, babies will be born, men will murder, people will fall in love, Spring will come, etc. etc. etc.

Forgot these:

The sun will rise, babies will be born, babies will be aborted, men will murder but at less than 1/60 the rate that babies are being aborted, people will fall in love, Spring will come, etc. etc. etc.
27 posted on 02/29/2012 6:47:35 AM PST by aruanan
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To: old and tired

My friends and I have graduated from clearance to consignment shops and thrift stores. We have two favorites. The thrift store is heavy on kids clothes at rock bottom prices. I watched one mother of 4 fill 3 large bags for under $30. My husband, myself and a friend all bought top of the line, great quality/condition jackets/coats for around $4-$9 each.

The consignment shop is a gold mine, especially if we wait for the end-of-season sales in Jan-Feb and June-July. I bought 3 top brand, terrific condition mens’ sweaters for $20. Other bargains were comparable.

What is happening is many chains are selling their overage to jobbers, who then peddle them for 50%-70% below wholesale at overstock/closeout shows. This is what you see on eBay and at other thrift venues.

America is full of over-production clothing. It is sold forward due to 1) increasingly rapid seasonal change in the stores, 2) rapid fashion change, where this season’s fad is dead weight after 3 months and the practice of over-buying to fill the racks and create an appearance of abundance, which sells more than the appearance of scarcity. I don’t know why that last is true, but I have seen in in action in retail.

For shoes, the web is full of discount, name brands. Bargain Outfitters/Sportsman’s Guide is one source and for expensive men’s quality shoes and boots, it is hard to beat. It isn’t just Chinese goods, either. My husband just purchased a pair of Rockport service oxfords, Made in America, for around 50% of list price.

Durables are cyclical. When a stove, fridge, washer or dryer wears out beyond repair, you have to replace them. Repairs are expensive (an agitator bolt + service call can be $80) and appliance stores offer GE Capital contracts with 12 month, no interest terms. As long as you do the math and pay it off in the allotted time, it is affordable, even on a reduced cash flow. I wish there were more reconditioned appliances in my area. I used to be able to replace a washer or dryer for $100, but the repair shops have disappeared.

The bargains are still there, but the venues have changed.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 6:56:17 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: aruanan

Well, I couldn’t list everything you know.


29 posted on 02/29/2012 6:56:42 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: INVAR

You are mis-applying the principles. I don’t disagree with what your foundational beliefs are at all - but I frankly resent you coming onto a political forum and being very condescending about those of us who are “wasting our time” talking about politics because if we don’t straighten up our spiritual and moral house then nothing matters.

Poppycock.

The fact is, humans can walk and chew gum at the same time. The fact is also that our God inspired Founding documents do not call for a theocracy. They call for liberty. This is a very important arena and the outcome in the political arena will have tremendous ramifications on how much or how little religious freedom our nation has left.

It was no more appropriate for you to say on this thread what you did than for someone to go on a thread about the 2 Chronicles passage and say “quit wasting your time in prayer and get up and go vote!”

Which is analogous to what you did. Both are important.


30 posted on 02/29/2012 6:56:57 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

She’s a widow and didn’t have a wedding the first time; however, she has said that she’d be fine with going to the JoP. I suppose part of it is me wanting to give her something she hasn’t had, but perhaps, given the current situation, I should reconsider.

And what do you mean by your second statement? Cute little characters? I’d be happy to come right out and say what I want to say, but I’d probably get the ZOT. Temperance is a more polite option, I think.


31 posted on 02/29/2012 7:48:42 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Been saying it for a while, FRiend, and I just have that feeling of foreboding that the Federal government is about to come bursting out of the belly of America and start singing and dancing. If our respective States don’t step up and act as a fence, then we’re all going to be thrown into the clink for supposed conspiratorial activities without a trial.


32 posted on 02/29/2012 7:50:40 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
"And what do you mean by your second statement? Cute little characters? I’d be happy to come right out and say what I want to say, but I’d probably get the ZOT. Temperance is a more polite option, I think."

The more polite option and, might I add, the option that shows the most respect for this forum and its members, is to choose your words more carefully. Spelling the word with special characters is no different that spelling it out correctly. This is not like lesser fora where that language is the norm.

If you want to use that language in your personal life, fine. But I ask that you show more respect for FR. (you might notice that your original comment has been removed by the moderator)

33 posted on 02/29/2012 8:33:58 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Then the moderator did your job for you. To continue to harp on strong language is pointless.

Sometimes it’s necessary to break out alternative verbiage to express frustration.

Call it a “swear” or an “adult” word. My intent was to impart both.


34 posted on 02/29/2012 8:59:32 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I’d rather be positive and work towards the good, including continuing to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I think it’s important to stay informed and inform others of how the Left is slowly infiltrating every area within this country and to keep people apprised of the other threat, which is Islam. I see the three major threats to the U.S. as Islam, the Secular Humanist crud, AND the Left, who are often one and the same as the Humanists.

The “feeling” stuff is just your own worries. Spend that energy productively. I’m assuming you do that.


35 posted on 02/29/2012 9:05:29 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: rarestia
"To continue to harp on strong language is pointless."

You asked me what I meant and I responded. If you don't want a response, don't ask.

36 posted on 02/29/2012 9:06:01 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Paved Paradise

I volunteer at my church and am an active member of my parish. Doesn’t mean that the troubles go away. My prayers to the Lord have gone unanswered thus far, but I do believe that He gives us only as much as we can handle. I’m handling it, just not very deftly.


37 posted on 02/29/2012 10:07:40 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Understood. My point was more that the post got banned. Sorry I keep banging on it.

/rantOff


38 posted on 02/29/2012 10:08:24 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I never believed in that “He never gives us more than we can handle.” ha ha... The reason I say that is because I’m a student of the Shoah (or Holocaust) and many people DIE from what is “handed” to them. What I do believe is that HE is faithful to walk with us and comfort us throughout whatever unfolds in our life. Bless you, dear!


39 posted on 02/29/2012 10:29:44 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You are mis-applying the principles.

There are man's principles and there are God's principles. I simply put God's principles first - same as the majority of the Founders did.

I frankly resent you coming onto a political forum and being very condescending about those of us who are “wasting our time” talking about politics because if we don’t straighten up our spiritual and moral house then nothing matters.

I wasn't being condescending at all. That is simply how you decided to take a biblical solution to the problems we face.

The Founders were wise enough to let those biblical principles guide their political decisions that resulted in the liberties we have allowed to be abolished by the tyranny of men. You may not like that fact, but it is self-evident in much of their writings.

The fact is also that our God inspired Founding documents do not call for a theocracy.

It's becoming routine now, almost knee-jerk to automatically assert the warning of theocracy, the split second God or the bible are mentioned in any congruence with social or political life.

Sad when the Founders themselves considered them inseparable to the health of the society and the nation itself.

They call for liberty.

I share the belief with our forebears liberty itself is a gift from God, and that mankind has no ability to establish or maintain it, apart from God.

You can disagree with that all you like.

I'll stand by it.

It was no more appropriate for you to say on this thread what you did than for someone to go on a thread about the 2 Chronicles passage and say “quit wasting your time in prayer and get up and go vote!”

I am aware that it is now impolite and improper to bring God or the bible into social or political discussions these days, but in my own opinion; good luck putting the cart before the horse.

I don't think it's going to save the nation or what is left of our liberties.

40 posted on 02/29/2012 11:09:31 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

You are trying to put yourself on a pedestal. There is no other way to take your initial post than condescension.

You are wrapping yourself in the flag and the Bible - but doing so falsely with your mis application.

Done.


41 posted on 02/29/2012 11:11:34 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: NKP_Vet
Erick is absolutely right.

Erickson is a flipping moron. How these idiots get to be talking heads is beyond me. The economy is not "fixing itself". Fewer people are working today than a year ago. If gas prices continue to rise, and they will because of the econut policies of his fellow moron Obama, fewer people will be working in a year as there are now.

The debt is going up a trillion a year. When interests rates rise to norms, and at some point they will, America will not be able to service the debt and feed and house the 40 million and rising who receive food stamps and housing allowances.

I mean, hiw damn stupid can a pundit get and still be a pundit? Anybody know?

42 posted on 02/29/2012 11:18:23 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: mathluv

“mittens has stated that he will not criticize the o.”

Please provide a source for that pledge?


43 posted on 02/29/2012 1:20:34 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: ScottinVA

“America is moving hard left, politically, and exacerbating this unfortunate condition is the fact 49.5% pay no federal income tax. They simply have no incentive to change. The system is rife with freebies from government-supplied food to housing, income to cell phones... all provided by the ever-dwindling ranks of taxpayers.

This doesn`t even address the rapidly growing demographic of hispanics, whose leanings are deep blue. The more political power they attain, the more our national “leaders” are to acquiesce to their demands to further open the borders and give amnesty and citizenship to illegals.”

Scott—i hate to say it, but i think your analysis is on the mark. prayers for America and the future of our children.


44 posted on 02/29/2012 1:37:28 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: rarestia

I appreciate your courtesy.


45 posted on 02/29/2012 1:46:47 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: mathluv

Willard’s “support” is from pro-abortion, never-go-to-church rich folks that call themselves consevatives.

He absolutely can not get enough REAL CONSERVATIVES to vote for him to win against Obama. He is not one of us. He’s a liberal and that’s exactly how he comes across. When he starts calling himself conservative and you hear establishment morons like Ann Coulter call him conservative, it comes off as the phonest bunch of malarky
in the world. Because we all know it’sa lie. The internet is full of videos showing him pandering and pleading to pro-abortion groups and homosexual groups telling them he is one of them. He almost sounds like he wants to cry to get their acceptance. The man has a history and it’s liberal history. He will say and do any damn thing to get someone to vote for him. No core whatsover. Can you imagine him calling Obama a “radical leftist”, the way Newt does? Aint gonna happen.


46 posted on 02/29/2012 2:04:23 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: IWONDR

http://www.teaparty.org/article.php?id=2588


47 posted on 02/29/2012 4:09:15 PM PST by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks NKP_Vet. So, when does it become general practice to put "(BARF ALERT)" in the titles of Erickson's op-eds?
Erick Erickson: Seriously, putting it bluntly, conservatives may not like Barack Obama, but most other people do. And when faced with a guy you like and a guy you don’t like who says he can fix an economy that no longer needs fixing, you’re going to go with the guy you like.

48 posted on 02/29/2012 5:10:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You are trying to put yourself on a pedestal. There is no other way to take your initial post than condescension.

You are wrapping yourself in the flag and the Bible - but doing so falsely with your mis application.

I have encountered many whom make the same exact accusations you do when presenting both an historical and biblical construct to the discussion of what ails us as a society and nation.

It usually comes from the rabid secular and Godless Left.

Interesting to discover it will be levied here also.

49 posted on 02/29/2012 9:40:16 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Erick got one thing very very wrong however. The economy is not fixing itself - it will certainly tank under these high gas prices coming. I am stunned he fell for that.

I agree.

Otherwise, he’s correct about Mitt.

I agree that Mitt is weak, but Obama is so vulnerable with his horrible record that anybody can beat him.

50 posted on 03/01/2012 5:27:26 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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