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Despite repeal of one gun a month law, Va. gun owners have ‘miles to go . . .'
DC Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 28 February, 2012 | Mike Stollenwerk

Posted on 02/29/2012 8:21:24 AM PST by marktwain

Today Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell (R) signed bills repealing Virginia’s “one gun a month” law. This leaves only 3 states - California, New Jersey, and Maryland – still rationing gun purchases.

Though this change in Virginia law attracted a lot of main stream media attention, it appears that Virginia’s gun laws remain more restrictive than most states. In fact, according to the anti-gun rights group known as the Brady Campaign, even after the repeal of the one gun a month law, and loss of 3 points on the Commonwealth’s “Brady Scorecard", Virginia will remain rated as having more restrictive gun laws than 31 other states – no change at all in its position between Georgia and Delaware.

The Old Dominion's gun rights leaders are not surprised. Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) President Philip Van Cleave sighed when he said

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; gun; mcdonnell; va; vageneralassembly
Incremental progress continues in many states.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 8:21:27 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Incremental progress continues in many states.

Indeed. Most of these gun laws were not implemented overnight. The antis did it a little at a time, so the same has to be done to eliminate them. We just have to keep up the pressure.

2 posted on 02/29/2012 8:42:44 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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We need a “Repeal One Gun Law a Month”.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 8:44:34 AM PST by matthew fuller (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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We don’t have “miles to go”. Our new rating “9” is higher than a lot of states, but that’s just because we have better record-keeping (+2), which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, and all the other states are at “8”.

In fact, a couple of the points aren’t all that bad; I’m not sure what the issue is with “police access” for example, and I don’t know how objectionable requiring a state license for concealed carry is. And we get a point for some rule about “child access” for children under 15 — if the rule is reasonable, I think it is a good thing to require gun owners not to allow younger children unfettered access to weapons in the home, so that might not be something we’d want to change.

The ones we need to fix are the “guns at college” and the “guns in private parking lots”. (2 points each). On the 2nd point, Virginia has a natural inclination to the rights of private property owners, which has interfered with attempts to change the “gun in car in parking lot” rule. I remember an argument over whether a private homeowner should have the right to ban visitors from driving onto their property with a car, because one of our attempts at this law wasn’t clear on what types of “private” parking lots would be impacted.

I know I wish my employer was required to allow a gun in the parking lot — because if I DID own a gun, and have a permit, it would be useless if I couldn’t keep the gun in my car while at work since most everywhere I go starts or ends at work. (This is the same problem with guns near public schools laws, if you carry and have to pick up kids you lose your “right” to carry because there’s no way to legally stash the gun. You can park 1000 feet away and walk to pick up your kid though.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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A SOLEMN PLEDGE
You who ridicule my gun ownership. You who condemn and vilify my exercise of my 2nd Amendment rights. You who criticize my intent to DEFEND me and mine. To you I openly make this pledge:
NO MATTER WHAT I SEE, HEAR, OR REALIZE IS OCCURRING IN YOUR HOME TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, I WILL, ON THIS OATH, NOT UTILIZE MY “HATED” GUN TO COME TO YOUR DEFENSE.
I pledge this in honor of your opinion, your stated desire and most fervent belief.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 8:59:45 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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The Anti-freedom types are masters at concealing their agenda with “reasonable” language:

“Police Access” means that if you run a gun store, you have to give up your fourth amendment rights and allow police to search you and all your records anytime they want. It essentially gives local police the ability to shut down those who they do not like, or who do not make payoffs.

“Child Access” means that you, as a parent, are not allowed to make decisions about how responsible your children are, or what is the greater danger: home invasions or children's accidents with guns. There are tens of thousands of home invasions each year, but the number of children killed in fatal firearms accidents is about 100.

I do not believe that carry without a state license is required under the no infringement wording of the Second Amendment. However, as Virginia has open carry, the licensing could be debated.

6 posted on 02/29/2012 9:51:49 AM PST by marktwain
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I do not believe that carry without a state license is required under the no infringement wording of the Second Amendment. However, as Virginia has open carry, the licensing could be debated.

Should be: I beleive instead of "I do not believe".

7 posted on 02/29/2012 9:53:13 AM PST by marktwain
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Virginia don’t forget to thank VCDL for all the work they did to get this past.


8 posted on 02/29/2012 10:09:09 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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I should have mentioned that we had open-carry laws.

It appears that the Virginia “Child Access” law covers a child gaining access to a loaded gun if it was improperly stored, so if a parent thinks they can keep the gun accessable and still keep their child away from it, they won’t be charged under the law unless they are wrong.

But that might well mean a child who accesses a loaded gun to protect the family could lead to a parent being charged under the law, so I could see wanting to change that. In general though, I’m OK with laws that punish parents if their children get access to harmful items in a house and actually use them in a harmful way, whether it be guns, or knives, or poisonous chemicals or medications or the family chain saw.

I tend to support parental responsibility laws. I think parents should be treated as responsible, and only punished if their actions turn out to be irresponsible and lead to harm to others.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 10:13:50 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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