Skip to comments.Iowa House Democrats leave Statehouse in protest (Demoncrats flee pro-RKBA bills, 2nd Amendment)
Posted on 02/29/2012 9:04:22 AM PST by DCBryan1
Iowa House Democrats left the Capitol in protest Wednesday, saying they were betrayed by the Republican majority that decided this morning to debate controversial gun rights legislation.
Weve been doubled-crossed, said House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, D-Des Moines, just before he lead his 40-member caucus out of the Statehouse.
Democrats had been led to believe a constitutional amendment spelling out Iowans right to bear arms and the so-called Castle Doctrine giving Iowans the right to defend themselves would not be debated Feb. 29, McCarthy said.
However, he was told after both parties went into their routine closed-door meetings to discuss pending legislation that the gun bills would be debated whether we like it or not.
I said You will not be debating it today, McCarthy said at about 9:45 a.m. Weve been betrayed. We are in protest leaving the building now.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegazette.com ...
This resolution would begin a process to amend Iowas constitution to include a right to keep and bear arms. The proposed amendment echoes the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, saying The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
To pass, the resolution must be approved by both the House and the Senate in two consecutive general assemblies before voters would weigh in on the issue. It means that the earliest a vote could occur would be 2013, should the legislature act this year and next.
House File 2215: Reasonable force/Stand your ground
The bill would rewrites the law on reasonable force so that a person may use force including deadly force against someone who they believe threatens to kill or cause serious injury, or who is committing a violent felony. The bill specifically says that a person is presumed to be justified in using deadly force if the person reasonably believes that deadly force is necessary to avoid injury or risk to his or her life.
Iowas current law allows potential victims to use deadly force against a perceived threat only if an alternative course of action also entails a risk to life or safety.
States need to begin writing serious rules regarding abandonment of civic servants of their elected responsibilities.
Immediate removal from office sounds good to me.
Flee baggers! Or is that flea baggers?
Do you suppose the founders envisioned representaives avoiding the chambers so the government would be paralyzed?
Ther Republicans should be screaming about the Dims “shutting down government”.
THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO RUN, AND EVEN MOVE INTO DEMONCRAT UN-CONTESTED AREAS!
MESSAGE TO IOWA REPUBLICANS: Shove this down their throats, put an emergency provision in it, and pass it. Hell, while you are at it, pass Constitutional Carry! Legalize all NFA weapons, tell ATF to go get bent!
These people are not doing their job.
They are an embarrassment to America
and the Constitution.
Additional coverage from Gannett Rag - link only...
Iowa House rules are that a majority constitutes quorum, so business can continue without ‘Rats participation.
Message for Democrats who flee their responsibilies: If you can’t run with the big dogs stay on the porch.
Recalls for this crap should be mandated. Whatever it takes.
All this time and that's all we had to do to get tyrants to abandon the legislature??? Propose a couple pro-rights bills?
Freedom to a democrat -- like a cross to a vampire!
Dear Iowa GOP:
Take a page out of recent Democrat Tactics Handbook here:
Deem it “passed” and make a public statement that “We Have to Pass It First in order to Find Out What’s In It”.
Then stand back and put your umbrellas up as dem heads start popping in outrage...
Be like the Nike commercial: “JUST DO IT!”
Section 1. The following amendment to the Constitution of 1 the State of Iowa is proposed:
2 Article I of the Constitution of the State of Iowa is amended
3 by adding the following new section:
4 Right to keep and bear arms. SEC. 1A. The right of the
5 people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
6 Sec. 2. REFERRAL AND PUBLICATION. The foregoing proposed
7 amendment to the Constitution of the State of Iowa is referred
8 to the general assembly to be chosen at the next general
9 election for members of the general assembly and the secretary
10 of state is directed to cause the same to be published for
11 three consecutive months previous to the date of that election
12 as provided by law.
14 This joint resolution proposes an amendment to the
15 Constitution of the State of Iowa providing that the right of
16 the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
17 The joint resolution, if adopted, would be referred to the
18 next general assembly for adoption a second time before being
19 submitted to the electorate for ratification.
Flee baggers! Or is that flea baggers?
Or, maybe “Free” beggars
This is getting to be a bad habit with these corrupt cretins.
Rather than stay and do their job, they revert to your typical liberal behavioral norms: throw a tantrum and run away.
Pathetic. Almost as pathetic as the so-called "citizens" who voted them into office.
So now ,.. who is the party of “No !”
“These people are not doing their job.
They are an embarrassment to America
and the Constitution.”
What do you expect they are Democrats.
“Recalls for this crap should be mandated. Whatever it takes.”
How about just implementing the kind of work rules that most businesses operate under? Your absences have to be excused or you loose your job. Guys like McCarthy who are RAT leaders need to have a serious attitude adjustment.
But then look at their current “role model” Debbie Washerwoman-Shitz!
It’s “Flee SCUM Baggers.”
Bet the a$$holes wouldn’t walk out on a bill to raise taxes.
"SEC. 15. Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state."
...and a Castle Doctrine.
“Republicans hold 60 of 100 seats and could debate the bill without Democrats since they have a quorum.”
Therefore it’s desparation. It’s all show for the Liberal idiots that elected them as they haven’t anything else to gain by their walking other than “we done sumpin’”.
Have Republicans ever fled to prevent a quorum?
Seriously, people need to start getting serious about recall elections when Democrats pull this stunt. After a few high-profile losses, it will end.
Start by canceling all their State credit cards, have all State issued cell phones blocked, report all State supplied cars as stolen to the State Police, stop direct deposit of their salaries, and issue warrants for their detention and return to the Capital.
Play ball with us or we'll stick this bat up to where you won't get a grip to pull it out!
PS This crap started in Wisconsin, we didn't do anything about it either and now it's spreading as a legitimate leftist paradigm. Stop them now and stop them HARD!
Iowa does not issue credit cards to their elected Legislators. Iowa does not issue cell phones to their Legislators. Nor does Iowa issue vehicles to their Legislators.
The Iowa Legislature is actually pretty 'lean and mean' when it comes to perks.
You beat me to it and took the words out of my mouth. They know that they’re toast if they come down on either side of this issue, so the cowards flee. They’re not worthy of their offices and should be oustered when they abandon their responsibilities in this manner. Slimeballs.
Pity, It looks like you haven't got a lot of leverage.
Pass the law, let them cry.
If you want to play big boy games, you have to play by the rules.
Boofrikin'Hoo! We can play that too. Its time Dems were on the receiving end anyway.
How about a $25,000 per day fine and 3 days in jail per day of abandonment of duties? And make it the state penitentiary...
I think so. But not quite as often or as readily as DEMs have been doing so.
In general, the threat of such a means of shutdown is why legislatures have the power to compel attendance and to expel members.
In 2003, 51 Texas Democratic legislators fled to Oklahoma to kill a Republican re-districting plan.
In 1988, Senator Bob Packwood (R-Ore.)who tried to escape a quorum by barricading himself in his office was forcibly dragged by the Sergeant-at-Arms onto the floor of Congress.
There are more incidents that predate the Wisconsin shenanigans.
Texas had that problem when some of us used to give a damn about what they did in Austin, I dunno about now...They eem to always want to leave the sandbox with their toys at a drop of a hat...
But back then we sent the Texas Rangers (not the baseball team) to go find, and fetch them back...Or at least they tried...
They hid like cowards and conducted business as cowards...
Nowadays, we can conduct business without democrats in the legislature...Ain’t a Super Majority grand!!!
But I am concerned that even having a Super Majority doesn’t matter anymore...
Looks like they took a little buit out of Texas and a few other staes verbage there...
The key word being “Reasonable” or “Reasonably” determin that “Deadly Force is necessary to stop the crime from continuing...
Like I said in the previous post democrats are cowards, they would rather accept the statistical data that shows innocent people being murdered, live and legislate from those pathetic numbers, than look forward to enacting legislation to allow a better armed public to be able to beat back these brazen crimes...
Given the nearly 100 years worth of problems we’ve had with the Second Amendment under the governance of Democrats, mirroring it in the Iowa Constitution seems quite foolhardy.