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To: stormer

Sometimes people on our side do some of the dumbest things.

My step brother just got his carry permit a year ago when the laws were relaxed. I’ve been a CCW permit holder for 31 years. He has been for 1 year. He carries open because he likes how people react to him and his wife carrying their guns where everyone can see them.

I told him, you lose the element of surprise that way. He believes that he keeps from being a victim because he shows them he is armed. I asked him if he plays poker and if so does he show everyone at the card table his hand as he plays? To me, carrying open is like playing poker with your cards exposed. It tips your hand to those who are betting against you.

I showed him and his wife how easy it is to use their guns against them by walking up behind her and pulling her gun from her holster. I gave it back and said, you brought the weapon to me that I could use to take you both out. He looked very shocked but not enough to stop doing this. Now he is one of the people who is getting stores and businesses to post signs that say “No Guns Allowed”.

Sometimes those we think are on our side do us the most harm.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 12:45:08 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Jack Burton007
Wow... We'd never thought of that before. Thanks!

Now we can justify having our police forces and armed military folks carry ONLY concealed as we'd never want the bad guys to get the drop on them.

After all, if you LOOK weak and an easy mark, the bad guys would leave you alone and target the guy who looks like a threat...

Do I really need to add /sarcasm?

21 posted on 02/29/2012 1:26:25 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Jack Burton007
I told him, you lose the element of surprise that way.

One who carries openly is probably less likely to be confronted by a criminal than one who carries concealed, because many potential attackers will decide that it's silly to attack when they know they'll encounter armed resistance, when they could simply wait and attack (hopefully) unarmed people after the armed people leave. The person who carries openly may well be at a disadvantage if a criminal decides to attack anyway, but the odds of that occurring may be slight compared with the odds of deterring the attack.

Either course of action could be right or wrong, depending upon the situation.

30 posted on 02/29/2012 9:44:44 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Jack Burton007

Show me one instance of an OC person having their gun taken as you talk about. Simply. Does. Not. Happen.

Criminals look for easy marks, not for people who show they will defend themselves to the death and are prepared to do so.

FWIW, I OC.


34 posted on 03/01/2012 4:33:10 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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