Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Goodbye, First Amendment: ‘Trespass Bill’ will make protest illegal
Russia Today ^ | 2/29/2012

Posted on 03/01/2012 2:32:29 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Just when you thought the government couldn’t ruin the First Amendment any further: The House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests in instances where some government officials are nearby, whether or not you even know it.

The US House of Representatives voted 388-to-3 in favor of H.R. 347 late Monday, a bill which is being dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011...

In the text of the act, the law is allowed to be used against anyone who knowingly enters or remains in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so, but those grounds are considered any area where someone — rather it’s President Obama, Senator Santorum or Governor Romney — will be temporarily visiting, whether or not the public is even made aware. Entering such a facility is thus outlawed, as is disrupting the orderly conduct of “official functions,” engaging in disorderly conduct “within such proximity to” the event or acting violent to anyone, anywhere near the premises. Under that verbiage, that means a peaceful protest outside a candidate’s concession speech would be a federal offense, but those occurrences covered as special event of national significance don’t just stop there, either. And neither does the list of covered persons that receive protection.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1a; 1stamendment; protest
sent this by a friend...it does NOT APPEAR to be a parody. Anyone have more info?
1 posted on 03/01/2012 2:32:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/02/houses-passes-new-bill-that-would-make.html

another source above.


2 posted on 03/01/2012 2:35:34 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Liberal senator of Connecticut praises the passage:

http://www.stamfordplus.com/stm/information/nws1/publish/News_1/Blumenthal-applauds-legislation-to-improve-protection-of-the-president15961.shtml


3 posted on 03/01/2012 2:36:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Typical of Blumenthal. At a glance, it doesn’t appear to do a whole lot more than the existing law. But the Stolen Honor Senator gets his name on something.


4 posted on 03/01/2012 2:46:36 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

The federal fascists pass one more piece of legislation which cements their protected status into law.

Where are those people yakking about how the GOP retaking the House was a real good thing?

A real good rubber stamp, that’s all it is.


5 posted on 03/01/2012 2:49:38 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

There have been at least two other threads earlier, one with the exactly same source, I’ll try and find the link for you.


6 posted on 03/01/2012 2:53:50 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Here’s one of the thread from earlier, the one before that, I didn’t participate in, so don’t know the keywords for it.

Same title, posted by “combat boots”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2852903/posts

(P.S. I’m not razing you about a duplicate thread—I’ve never cared about that—just replying to the “Anyone have more info?” question.)


7 posted on 03/01/2012 2:56:20 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Oh yeah, and here’s another link to another site carrying the story:

“Latest From the Hill: Congress Criminalizes the Right to Free Assembly; Strips Basic Protections of First Amendment”

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/congress-criminalizes-the-right-to-assembly-strips-basic-protections-of-first-amendment_02292012

I did hear it passed with over 300 “yeas” in the house, and IIRC SINGLE DIGIT “nays” and also was passed unanimously by the senate, but with no record of who voted. People need to wake up, there’s no difference between Democrat and Republican politicians. None of them are interested in our Freedom. NONE of them.


8 posted on 03/01/2012 2:59:35 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: mkjessup

Exactly. The GOP is NO DIFFERENT from the Democrats, I no longer care what anyone has to say to the contrary. It’s one big circus, no difference, NONE.


9 posted on 03/01/2012 3:00:56 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper
See FEDERAL RESTRICTED BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS IMPROVEMENT ACT OF 2011 in Congressional Record, House, February 27, 2012 for the record of passage. Looks to be a change to existing law, 18 USC 1752.
10 posted on 03/01/2012 3:06:34 AM PST by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JDW11235
-- and also was passed unanimously by the senate, but with no record of who voted. --

It's a good bet that there were no more than 3 total senators in the chamber when the measure passed the Senate. One of those three would be sitting in the presiding chair, one other would be Reid or a designee. There may or may not have been a third. I think it is safe to say that half of the items passed in the senate are done in this sort of circumstance; although I believe all Senators offices are given an opportunity in advance to object, so that what does pass really does have the stamp of approval of 100% of the US Senators, even though they are not in the chamber when the measures are formally passed.

11 posted on 03/01/2012 3:10:31 AM PST by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: JDW11235
-- The GOP is NO DIFFERENT from the Democrats, I no longer care what anyone has to say to the contrary. It's one big circus, no difference, NONE. --

I agree it is one big circus, or charade, or whatver you want to call it. But there is a difference between the parties. There has to be, otherwise the people would quickly "wise up" to the fact that both parties are play acting or play fighting while they enjoy their exalted perches.

Recent history shows us that the GOP is as good or better as the DEM party at growing the federal government.

12 posted on 03/01/2012 3:15:43 AM PST by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

FWIW - RT is Russia Today, a propaganda news organization. I have a liberal friend who watches it, they swear by it. I won’t have it turned on in my house.

all that aside, if this bill is a reality, will it prevent Code Pinkos from entering Congress and nearly assaulting the Secretary of State like what happened with COndoleeza Rice? Don’t see much of them since 0 took office. I sear Boxer and Pelosi always let them in the gallery.


13 posted on 03/01/2012 3:21:13 AM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Keep pushing @$$holes! The tea party is watching and keeping score. Your day of reckoning is coming.


14 posted on 03/01/2012 3:22:34 AM PST by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper
So this would technically make events like this...a crime?

And consider for a moment all those heated townhall meetings from 2010...now illegal? Consider for a moment that an elected representative speaking at a Tea Party Rally....you could be arrested? This is not my country anymore if we have no way for redress.

15 posted on 03/01/2012 3:24:16 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mkjessup

We soon will look like 1930s Germany with lawmakers only protecting themselves for they will get to the place where they care nothing for the country while living as lavishly as they can without any trust in one another. We are getting very close to a big crisis and the pain and sorrow our people will endure can be laid at the feet of our politicians and the complicit media.


16 posted on 03/01/2012 3:27:02 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Blumenthal lied about service in Vietnam, he is a poser scumwaffle


17 posted on 03/01/2012 3:49:48 AM PST by RaceBannon (Romney would surrender to Islam as fast as Obama promotes it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: EBH

I guess that million and a half that showed up in DC 9-12-09 would’ve been criminals too.... where would they have put us all?


18 posted on 03/01/2012 3:56:06 AM PST by RebelTXRose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

So if I am reading this correctly, if I am on the street protesting if Obumer come thru my town, I would get in trouble?


19 posted on 03/01/2012 3:57:19 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RebelTXRose

I guess that million and a half that showed up in DC 9-12-09 would’ve been criminals too.... where would they have put us all?


Do any of us on here still NOT believe there are camps waiting for us ?


20 posted on 03/01/2012 4:07:20 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: blueyon
So if I am reading this correctly, if I am on the street protesting if Obumer come thru my town, I would get in trouble?

Not only Occupier in chief, anyone afforded secret service protection: Romney, the FLOTUS, most of the administration, any congress critter that felt threatened and anyone else the DOJ or Secret Service feels deserves "special protection".

21 posted on 03/01/2012 4:08:28 AM PST by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: RebelTXRose
Buses, cattle cars, and off to the FEMA camps. Where have you been for the last 3 years?

Are FEMA Concentration Camps and Martial...

FEMA Camps (the rumors?), the law signed by 0bama on New Year's Eve, and now this?

Bits and pieces are all falling into place behind our very backs, under the table, and the other day somebody was mentioning the lies 0bama and the regime tell...it brought to mind another great and famous liar...

Something about telling the public 'big lies' for then they are easily deceived, ....

22 posted on 03/01/2012 4:20:54 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: RebelTXRose

The more interesting question would be...

if the authorities showed up with buses and said a “threat” was underway and you needed to be evacuated...”Get on the bus.”

Would you have?


23 posted on 03/01/2012 4:24:22 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: JDW11235

there’s no difference between Democrat and Republican politicians. None of them are interested in our Freedom. NONE of them.

That has been true since the 1970s. Glad people are noticing, but it is far too late, short of a real 2nd US Revolution, and who knows how that would turn out. It is what happens when the people go to sleep politically and allow their government to find ways of handing out “free” stuff..


24 posted on 03/01/2012 4:27:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SueRae

Don’t see much of them (Code Pinkos) since 0 took office. I sear Boxer and Pelosi always let them in the gallery.

Did you see the Arab Spring in Egypt? Guess who was there ...


25 posted on 03/01/2012 4:29:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

My first thought is that the Occutards are starting to scare people in power.
It is easy to get useful idiots riled up, but much harder to control them.


26 posted on 03/01/2012 4:32:08 AM PST by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PIF

You know...I can’t help but think about all those times we were encouraged and demonized over voting for the RINO...because they are better than the democrat.

Blindly voting the moderate was a betrayal of our freedom.

So when the GOP convention rolls around and we are given Romney or Jeb Bush... and all the pundits tell you, you have to vote or we get another 4 years of 0bama.

Think long and hard about 300+ House Representatives, led by a GOP took away your Rights.

They are counting on playing your ...anybody but 0bama emotions...

Coulter is already in the Romney camp. Limbaugh will rally his listeners to the cause ... they realize this time...to borrow a phrase from the left...

Hell NO! We won’t go.

This entire election and campaign is a sham. It is not real. The candidates that could have derailed the process were and are being destroyed.


27 posted on 03/01/2012 4:39:56 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Here is the link to the roll call vote.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll149.xml


28 posted on 03/01/2012 4:51:43 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper
Most "protests" are not protected by the Constitution, despite the defective understanding which arose out of events in the 1960s.

The First Amendment protects the rights of peaceable assembly and petitions for redress. Most "protests" are not peaceable, in that they are intended to evoke a response from either bystanders or authorities which can be put to good use by the seditious media or, now, social media.

Nothing that was done by OWS, for example, was peaceable. Blocking a sidewalk is not peaceable. Drumming all night is not peaceable. Shitting on a police car is not peaceable. Removing MacPherson Square from public use and scaring little children is not peaceable.

The original lunch counter sit ins had the explicit purpose of causing the protesters to be arrested. MLK, in the "Letter from a Birmingham Jail", explained the theory and practice very well, and he NEVER asserted that his sit ins and marches enjoyed the protection of the First Amendment.

I don't really understand how we got from there to here, but outlawing some or all "protests", in contrast to outlawing peaceable assemblies, is perfectly constitutional.

29 posted on 03/01/2012 5:01:22 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Seems like things are ramping up. What a terrible time and future this will be to live in. Hopefully not, but we shall see.


30 posted on 03/01/2012 5:03:46 AM PST by IamCenny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JDW11235

See roll call vote on my post #28


31 posted on 03/01/2012 5:13:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Texas Fossil

Sorry, I posted wrong link on #28 for the roll call. That was a previous vote.

Here is the most recent vote:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll073.xml


32 posted on 03/01/2012 5:17:58 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Sorry, I posted the link to a previous vote on this bill.

See my post #32 for correct link and roll call vote.


33 posted on 03/01/2012 5:21:30 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

Uhhh!

Did anybody notice the source of the article is “Russia Today”?


34 posted on 03/01/2012 5:29:29 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Fossil; Quix; blam; bamahead; Kartographer

See Post #8
“Latest From the Hill: Congress Criminalizes the Right to Free Assembly; Strips Basic Protections of First Amendment”

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/congress-criminalizes-the-right-to-assembly-strips-basic-protections-of-first-amendment_02292012


35 posted on 03/01/2012 5:42:55 AM PST by Whenifhow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: EBH

This entire election and campaign is a sham

And has been at least since the Dole nomination, maybe before ...


36 posted on 03/01/2012 8:19:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve heard a lot of Liberals say that “laws are meant to be broken”. Gee, I wonder what they’ll say when the shoe is on the other foot? The day is coming when people yearning for freedom will have to ignore the laws of despots.


37 posted on 03/01/2012 11:48:29 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson