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Santorum Won More Michigan Delegates
The Moderate Voice ^ | February 29th, 2012 | Tony Campbell

Posted on 03/01/2012 3:16:46 AM PST by jacknhoo

According to the MSM, and most people who blindly follow their reports, Mitt Romney won the Michigan primary last night by about 3 points, 41 to 38. However, like the Electoral College, the point of the contest is not to win the popular vote (Gore – 2000) but to win more delegates per state based on the apportionment of those delegates.

Michigan’s primary delegate system allows for a set number of delegates to be won by state wide popular vote and the rest to be evenly distributed by Congressional districts. When you consider the facts of the contest, and the outcome of the voting pattern of the Congressional districts, Rick Santorum won more delegates by a count of 17 to 13 for Romney.

No spin; just the facts. The MSM will not report it that way so someone has to.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: delegates; freeperheadsexplode; mi2012; primaries; romney; santorum

1 posted on 03/01/2012 3:16:55 AM PST by jacknhoo
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To: jacknhoo

No spin; just the facts. The MSM will not report it that way so someone has to.


I’m glad that ‘someone’ is willing to do so. Thanks for the post!


2 posted on 03/01/2012 3:20:09 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Antoninus; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist

(((((PING)))))


3 posted on 03/01/2012 3:20:27 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: jacknhoo

It’s an accident if the media presents a full and accurate impression.


4 posted on 03/01/2012 3:29:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Timber Rattler
Rick needs our help now.
He needs donations and those who are willing to help volunteer.

5 posted on 03/01/2012 3:39:03 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: jacknhoo; All

17 to 13 ..final tally in Michigan. Fox will never report that but CNN will.

Hmmmmmmmmm.....

Bit those 13 delegates sure cost Willard the Spender a lot.

Say $650K each?


6 posted on 03/01/2012 3:58:35 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: jacknhoo

Bump!

I saw this on the local news tonight.

Might not matter. MSM has already anointed Romney as the nominee and will do whatever possible to avoid reporting bad news about him no matter what.


7 posted on 03/01/2012 3:58:56 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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*But


8 posted on 03/01/2012 3:59:42 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: jacknhoo

Basically it’s open cold civil war on We the People and our candidates at this point....


9 posted on 03/01/2012 4:01:39 AM PST by mo
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To: djf

At the very least, it will give Rick an opening line for his next dozen speeches and couple dozen media interviews : )


10 posted on 03/01/2012 4:02:50 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: jacknhoo

I just heard on Fox 15 to 15...not 17 to 13, what is the correct count?


11 posted on 03/01/2012 4:05:47 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: blueyon

I’m still getting a tie but that’s good enough for me considering how much it cost Mitt-ercup for those 15 delegates.

Despite the media spin about democrats voting for Santorum, it was still Mitt who won the most liberal areas of Michigan and Santorum who won the conservative areas.


12 posted on 03/01/2012 4:08:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

This morning FOX was trying to help Romney by showing Romney whining about it being wrong to court dems in a robo-call.

uh huh, well it was Romney camp that wanted open primaries in Michigan.

Talk about a hypocrite.

And since when is trying to get voters from the other party to crossover and support you?

I didn’t see Reagan turning away Reagan dems. He welcomed them.


13 posted on 03/01/2012 4:16:52 AM PST by dforest
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To: All

From what I have recently been told, the Santorum campaign has requested this link not be circulated as it is FALSE.

Sorry...


14 posted on 03/01/2012 4:24:29 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: dforest

Romney was specifically hunting democrat votes too. My liberal sister in Livonia said that Romney people came to her door several times. She told them that she was an idiot (democrat) but they said it didn’t matter as long as she was willing to help stop Santorum’s “extreme agenda”. She said they even used the word taliban.

If Santorum picked up some democrat votes, that’s tough noogies for Romney and his friends. We’ve been screaming for a closed primary for years now and that bunch has done all they could to keep it open.

The worse was Rick Snyder complaining about it on election night. If it weren’t for crossovers he wouldn’t be governor now. Union members voted for him in near identical numbers as they did for democrat Bernero.


15 posted on 03/01/2012 4:25:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jacknhoo

Who is Tony Campbell? And can this narrative be believed?


16 posted on 03/01/2012 4:38:02 AM PST by techno
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To: techno; All
Here's the map he's using...did he count right?


17 posted on 03/01/2012 5:08:22 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: CainConservative

It appears that Romney won District 10 (the thumb) and that the final score was 15-15.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS15/120229059/-1/7daysarchives/Graphic-How-Michigan-voted


18 posted on 03/01/2012 5:28:24 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: American Constitutionalist

I just sent in another donation!

Mittens is having $1000 fund raisers. Rick and Co. should do same.


19 posted on 03/01/2012 7:18:35 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

20 posted on 03/01/2012 8:05:28 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

What is concerning is that perception is everything. Rick’s numbers are down on Ras and Gallup and most drones don’t pay attention to minor follow up reports like the fact that Santorum actually won more delegates.

The MSM, especially Faux, is going to continue to shill for Mittens any way possible..thus there will be little mention of this “insignificant” news about Rick Santorum’s victory in Michigan.


21 posted on 03/01/2012 8:40:30 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: CainConservative; All

At the very least, it will give Rick an opening line for his next dozen speeches and couple dozen media interviews
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It’s Thursday already and I’ve not heard Rick say anything about this. Has anyone else? Is he jumping on this thing? He needs to.


22 posted on 03/01/2012 8:45:05 AM PST by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: Mountain Mary

I see where you are coming from, but I am not as concerned yet. The MSM did everything they could to paint Rick as some sort of religious zealot and Milt outspent Rick 2 to 1 in MI with all negative ads. For their trouble, Mitt got the same amount of delegates as Rick and if you look at the state map, Rick won almost all of the state except Detroit. Let’s be honest here, this is a race for delegates, not wining states. There are just a bunch of states coming up where Milt has no chance to get any.

We will see soon enough if Rick can perform some more magic on Tuesday. There are quite a few states that have him up by a good margin. I think there will be more surprises that no one sees coming to give us some renewed spirit.


23 posted on 03/01/2012 8:54:03 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: jacknhoo

We wuz ROBBED—twice now!

We’ll never read this in the MSM or GOP-E.

The day after the Hawkeye-cauci I finally understood how the Gorebots were feeling in December of 2000.


24 posted on 03/01/2012 9:59:24 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: scrabblehack

MI-10 did not end up being all that close. The CD that right now is listed as having been won by Romney but might flip to Santorum is MI-05, in which Romney clings to a 488-vote lead with some votes apparently still to be tabulated.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS15/120229059/-1/7daysarchives/Graphic-How-Michigan-voted

If Santorum ends up winning MI-05, only then will he have a 17-13 delegate advantage in MI over Romney.


25 posted on 03/01/2012 10:53:07 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: jacknhoo

Nope. Mittster over Santorum, 16 to 14.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120301/NEWS15/120301038/Mitt-Romney-gets-Michigan-s-large-delegates


26 posted on 03/01/2012 11:32:32 AM PST by billthecat (Ack! Ack!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Rush Limbaugh mentions the 2012 Romney robocall of Santorum’s 2008 endosement (still trying to find audio of the actual call - I heard it somewhere):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZFy0NwG-VM


27 posted on 03/01/2012 3:07:53 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: billthecat

Whoa....the 2 statewide were supposed to be awarded proportionally.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/MI-R#0228

2 National Convention Delegates are to be proportionally bound to presidential contenders based on the statewide vote. A candidate must receive 15% of the statewide vote to be eligible to receive National Convention delegates. From those candidates meeting this threshold, proportionally bind the national convention delegates according to the statewide vote. Round factions to the nearest whole number (below 0.5 are rounded down, 0.5 and above are rounded up). If the end result is less than 2 delegates, allocate 1 additional delegate to the candidate receiving the most votes statewide. If the end result is more than 2 delegates, subtract 1 delegate from the candidate receiving the fewest votes statewide.

41-38 still rounds to 1-1.


28 posted on 03/01/2012 3:14:00 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Lazlo in PA; jacknhoo

Thanks for the ping. So... is it true, or not?

From what I have recently been told, the Santorum campaign has requested this link not be circulated as it is FALSE.

Sorry...

14 posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:24:29 AM by jacknhoo


29 posted on 03/01/2012 7:57:59 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Kevmo

It is not true. Actually the toads that run the GOP decided today that Rick and Mittens being even wasn’t good for him so they moved the goalposts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2853326/posts

How many times are these a-holes going to shaft Santorum after the race?


30 posted on 03/01/2012 8:03:34 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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