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Sheriff Joe Arpaio suggests Obama's birth certificate is a forgery
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57388911-503544/sheriff-joe-arpaio-suggests-obamas-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/ ^ | March 1, 2012 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 03/01/2012 2:24:47 PM PST by upchuck

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona, announced Thursday that his six-month investigation had found that "probable cause exists indicating that forgery and fraud may have been committed" in the release of President Obama's long-form birth certificate.

The publicity-hungry Arpaio, a strong opponent of illegal immigration who calls himself "America's Toughest Sheriff," said the evidence gathered by his investigators suggests Mr. Obama's birth certificate and selective service registration card are fakes.

"Based on all of the evidence, I cannot in good faith report to you these documents are authentic," Arpaio said at a press conference in Phoenix, adding that his "investigators believe that the long form birth certificate was manufactured electronically and that it did not originate in the paper format as presented by the White House."

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Mike Zullo, the lead investigator for Arpaio, on Thursday presented a series of videos that he said showed that the president's documents were likely forgeries. He suggested the investigation showed that Mr. Obama's long-form birth certificate, which was released electronically, "never existed in paper form," and said the evidence had led him to recommend to Arpaio "a full-blown criminal investigation."

Zullo also said his team came to the conclusion that the Hawaii Department of Health and Hawaiian officials "may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures" to keep them from being adequately examined.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birther; documents; forged; forgery; obama; sherriffarpaio; sherriffjoe; sourcetitlenoturl
Joe has reloaded.
1 posted on 03/01/2012 2:24:50 PM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/arizona-sheriff-obama-birth-certificate-forged-15828337


2 posted on 03/01/2012 2:26:33 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: upchuck

“The publicity-hungry Arpaio,...”

Gee....no bias, no agenda here. Joe better watch it, he will join A.B. if he pursues anything.


3 posted on 03/01/2012 2:28:02 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (When does the shooting start?)
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To: upchuck

Joe Arpaio is a VERY IMPRESSIVE PATRIOT. At the end of his posse’s presentation I was not surprised to see members of the mainstream media that was there essentially attack the messenger. Arpaio was too smart for them and did not fall into any of the traps they were trying to set for him to give them a “soundbite” they could later distort.

Go Joe!!


4 posted on 03/01/2012 2:28:21 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: upchuck

It’s more than a suggestion. It is a forgery.


5 posted on 03/01/2012 2:28:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: upchuck

That press conference was the “Dan Rather W typwriter moment”:

Letters are typed imperfectly —there are sometimes tiny dots where no ink pressed onto the page.

At those voids in the typed letter, we should see green print of the raw document paper showing through. We don’t see green there —WE SEE *WHITE*:

That is because the green was electronically put behind the text as the LAST STEP.


6 posted on 03/01/2012 2:32:41 PM PST by gaijin
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To: upchuck

Upcoming news; Liberal Heads Explode.


7 posted on 03/01/2012 2:33:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: upchuck
The publicity-hungry Arpaio, a strong opponent of illegal immigration who calls himself "America's Toughest Sheriff," said the evidence gathered by his investigators suggests Mr. Obama's birth certificate and selective service registration card are fakes.

Well, now we know how Obama's friends in the MSM plan to 'Do' Joe Arpaio. Assert that he's "publicity-hungry" and hint that he is just doing this to retaliate against a 'legitimate' beef that Obama's Justice Department has with the Maricopa County Sheriff.

At least they aren't totally ignoring it. I guess that's something?

8 posted on 03/01/2012 2:33:30 PM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: gaijin

The lefties conceed there are abnomalies in the document, saying that there are the product of:

1. Optical character recognition
2. Optimization - in which the document is digitally shrunk to permit for a smaller attached doc

But when you do this stuff, the computer RANDOMLY creates NUMEROUS layers for different stuff on the doc.

Instead, when investigators examined the doc, the see FEW layers, and they layers are NOT random; all the validation stamps are in the SAME LAYER, not different ones.

A human MADE those layers quite deliberately.

They even have a witness in Chicago saying that Ayer’s mother openly introduced Obama to him/her as, “a FOREIGN exchange student”....!!!


9 posted on 03/01/2012 2:38:13 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Tallguy

If it wasn’t for FR, I’d have absolutely NO IDEA what was going on in the MSM. Since I figured out that they’re all liars, cheats and stooges of the Dems, I pay them absolutely no attention. As for the few shows they have that are worth watching, I DVR them so I never see a commercial.


10 posted on 03/01/2012 2:38:33 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: gaijin

I deconstructed the document on day 1 but need to go back and see if this green layer is really the final layer, that is a really odd way to build a document.


11 posted on 03/01/2012 2:38:42 PM PST by omega4179 (Internet ID:FU░&#BO)
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To: upchuck
The publicity-hungry Arpaio, a strong opponent of illegal immigration who ...

C-BS News?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

12 posted on 03/01/2012 2:45:42 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: upchuck

The biggest thing was not that it was a forgery — ho hum, we knew that — no, the biggest thing is that there is a person who will testify that Bill Ayers’ mother introduced Obama as a foreign student. This would have been around 30 years ago.


13 posted on 03/01/2012 2:47:46 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: gaijin
Which may be the most damning evidence of all, accepting grants as a "foreign student" to which he was not qualified to receive.

This may be the catch-22.

Is he or isn't he? Only his document forger knows for sure.

14 posted on 03/01/2012 2:50:19 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: upchuck

Joe will be taking this to the District Attorney for a Grand Jury Indictment of Obama!


15 posted on 03/01/2012 2:51:29 PM PST by Uncle Slayton
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To: gaijin
But when you do this stuff, the computer RANDOMLY creates NUMEROUS layers for different stuff on the doc.

Instead, when investigators examined the doc, the see FEW layers, and they layers are NOT random; all the validation stamps are in the SAME LAYER, not different ones.

A human MADE those layers quite deliberately.

Except that there is at least one place in the document where there are words that are split between multiple layers (e.g., the first half of a word is on one layer, the rest on another). For example, the (pre-printed) line "Name of Hospital or Institution (If not in hospital or institution, give street address)" is split among two layers as follows:

one layer contains "N___ _f H______l __ I__________ (If ___ __ h_______ __ ____________ ____ ______ add____)"

another layer contains "_ame o_ _ospita_ or _nstitution ___ not in _ospital or institution, give street ___ress_"

If a human made the layers deliberately, why would they split that sentence (or any of the other words/lines that are so split) across different layers?

16 posted on 03/01/2012 3:01:28 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: upchuck; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ..

more mainstream coverage on 0bama FRAUD!


17 posted on 03/01/2012 3:14:18 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I saw that and cringed.

I heard Colin Cowherd gush today on ESPN about how cool and smart and “approchable” Barack Obama is.

To his credit, he gave GWB some love, but slammed Clinton.

The Media HOPE SO BADLY that Obama is their Marxist Messiah, they want so deeply to have him succeed, and will perjure themselves doing so.

See-BS.


18 posted on 03/01/2012 3:29:14 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers.....)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
If a human made the layers deliberately, why would they split that sentence (or any of the other words/lines that are so split) across different layers?

Maybe for the same reason that he came up with an official stamp that misspelled the word the?

ML/NJ

19 posted on 03/01/2012 3:46:54 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: All

Brett Baier mentioned it during the Grapevine segment on Special Report this evening, even the fact that Obama’s Selective Service registration was suspected to be forged.


20 posted on 03/01/2012 4:06:49 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Tallguy
At least they aren't totally ignoring it. I guess that's something?

It's a major something.

Go, Joe!

21 posted on 03/01/2012 4:39:17 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
If a human made the layers deliberately, why would they split that sentence (or any of the other words/lines that are so split) across different layers?

Perhaps sloppy work trying to get the correct spelling of the hospital... which they still goofed up.

22 posted on 03/01/2012 4:42:51 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: upchuck

Fifty or sixty years from now, when the whole lamentable truth of this benighted administration has finally come out, historians will shake their heads in disbelief and sane Americans - if there are any at the rate we’re going - will experience nausea at what happened.

If there is any “up side” to this sorry tale, it’s that - just possibly - the US electorate will be more cautious and careful about vetting fraudsters and phonies.


23 posted on 03/01/2012 5:49:50 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: bgill
Perhaps sloppy work trying to get the correct spelling of the hospital... which they still goofed up.

Why would "sloppy work trying to get the correct spelling of the hospital" lead the alleged forger to split up the pre-printed line (which is unchanged in any version of the document) across multiple layers? And what about the other words that are similarly split. If the layers are evidence of intentional forgery (as opposed to artifacts of the scanning/etc process), then why would these anomalies exist? It does not make sense that a person constructing a document from layer would split up individual words (particularly words that are pre-printed on the form that is being forged) across multiple layers.

24 posted on 03/01/2012 6:11:41 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
The biggest thing was not that it was a forgery — ho hum, we knew that — no, the biggest thing is that there is a person who will testify that Bill Ayers’ mother introduced Obama as a foreign student. This would have been around 30 years agoq.

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1. Romney's tax returns: There was a public outcry a few weeks ago for Romney to release his tax returns.

2. Obama's college costs: If we demand that Romney release his tax records, then I say that we should now demand that Obama explain how he paid his way through Occidental in California and Columbia in New York as an undergraduate student, when there is no record that he held a job during his undergraduate days.

3. That is, if Obama was going around describing himself as a "foreign student", then we have the right to know if he received financial aid that only foreign students received.

4. Ayers: It looks like Ayers was more than just the person who lived down the street---as Obama described Ayers during the 2008 presidential campaign---if the person is correct above when he says that he accidentally ran into Obama in the 1980s when Obama was just a short distance from Ayer's parents' home.

5. As I understand it, the man said that in the 1980s, he was the mailman for the Ayers' area, and he accidentally ran into Obama as he continued on his mail route soon after dropping mail off at the Ayers' home.

25 posted on 03/01/2012 7:58:03 PM PST by john mirse
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To: john mirse
Yes, the source was a mailman who knew the elder Ayers well. He also attended local school with Bill Ayers' brother but never met Bill while working for the Post Office.

He described his first encounter with Obama and how they engaged in a pleasant conversation -- the source figured that Obama as a black man in a white upper class neighborhood wanted to talk to 'splain himself why he was walking up to the Ayers' home. Later Mrs Ayers spoke glowingly of Obama and Ayers relations with Obama.

The First Time I Heard Of Barack By Tom Fife

This source identifies himself and seems credible. What he says make a little more sense if the Ayers were truly friends of Obama for years and years. The Soviets had extensive contacts in the U.S.

Mr. Fife was on contract in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. There he meet former Soviet officials at least one of whom mentioned Obama and what was planned for him.

26 posted on 03/01/2012 9:37:17 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: upchuck
- against overwhelming evidence -

I have heard of this "overwhelming evidence" before...and am curious what CBS means by it. Alas, I suppose it is so overwhelming it need not be bothered about and anyone who wonders what they mean must not be "enlightened".

27 posted on 03/01/2012 9:58:00 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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