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Pelosi: Because 90% of Catholic women use contraception, we have to mandate Catholic orgs to buy it
Hotair ^ | 03/02/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/02/2012 12:33:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Let's see if we can follow Nancy Pelosi's logic in this statement. Because 90% of Catholic women of childbearing age can already access contraception when they want it, it's ... a public health crisis that demands that all employers provide free contraception. Make sense?

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At a press conference on Capitol Hill, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi explained her support for the Obama administration’s decision to require religious institutions to offer health insurance plans that cover contraception.

“I know that the records show that 90 percent of Catholic women of childbearing age use birth control,” Pelosi said to reporters on Thursday. ”So this is a women’s health issue.”

“It’s a matter of conscience for each woman, her doctor, her husband, her family, and her God to make their own decisions. And as a Catholic, I support the right of a woman to make that decision.”

As a Catholic, I think women should have access to contraception if they want to buy it, too. I also think employers who want to fund those choices through their health insurance should be free to do so, and insurers who think they can sell policies that cover those choices have the freedom to offer them. In fact, all of those opportunities exist right now. There is no law against purchasing contraception, no law against insurance companies covering it, and no law against employers providing it for free. I’m also perfectly fine with the concept of keeping the decision between the woman, her sex partner, her doctor, and God — but then again, I’m not the one trying to force employers and insurance companies to take part in that decision.

However, I don’t think that employers should be forced by Pelosi, Barack Obama, or Kathleen Sebelius to foot the bill for an entirely voluntary activity by providing it for free from their health insurance. That’s true of any employer, and especially true for religious organizations whose doctrines oppose the use of contraception, abortifacients, and sterilization. And the very figures that Pelosi uses in defending the mandate show that it’s completely unnecessary. If 90% of Catholic women of childbearing age already access contraception, then they don’t need a patronizing employer to pay the freight, do they? As the CDC noted in its long-term study of sexual activity, contraception, and unwanted pregnancies, 99% of women who wanted to avoid pregnancy during their childbearing years used contraception.

Insisting that government has to mandate someone else to pay the bills for a product in order to have “access” to it not only flies in the face of the very evidence Pelosi uses to justify the mandate, it’s a splendid example of statist logic. That’s the road we are taking with this mandate, with ObamaCare, and with Democrats.

Peter Schweizer thinks this is all just a big payoff to Big Pharma:

Forget for a minute the religious question and look at who wins big here: Big Pharma. This mandate is not really about condoms or generic versions of “the pill,” which are available free or cheap in lots of places. This is about brand-name birth control drugs and other devices that some consumers swear off because they are too expensive. The Health and Human Services (HHS) mandate requires health-insurance companies provide contraceptive coverage for all “FDA approved contraceptive methods.” It does not insist on generics. And it does not offer any cost containment.

What’s more, the mandate prevents health-insurance companies from having copays or deductibles for the benefit. This is the perfect set up for Big Pharma. Since the drugs will be paid for by a third party (insurance companies, who will pass the cost on to employers and the rest of us), the consumer won’t worry about the price. Expensive brand names will no doubt see demand rise. Ask more health-care analysts why the cost of medical services continues to rise so rapidly and near the top of the list is the fact that a third-party payment system won’t contain costs.

Back in 2009, many observers were surprised when Big Pharma came out in favor of President Obama’s health-care reform bill. The industry spent millions running television ads in favor of the law and industry lobbyists pushed hard for it. One important reason they did so was the promise that with the new law they would have a new market of millions of new customers. The contraceptive mandate is a perfect example.

It’s about the only way this policy makes sense at all. But if so, then it’s even more incumbent on Obama to protect the majority of the mandate by expanding the religious conscience exemptions before the legal challenges extinguish the entire provision. I still think we’re going to see a Friday-night doc dump reversal on that point. I wouldn’t be surprised if Joe Biden’s admission that Obama “screwed up the first iteration” becomes an opening for a third iteration soon.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholics; contraception; hhsmandate; pelosi

1 posted on 03/02/2012 12:33:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Proud 10% around here.


2 posted on 03/02/2012 12:34:34 PM PST by steve86 (I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and am exercising the privileges thereof.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is Pelosi still a Catholic?


3 posted on 03/02/2012 12:34:45 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The most anti-Catholic people I know are ex-Catholics or Pelosi types.


4 posted on 03/02/2012 12:38:11 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: dragonblustar

What a disgusting, despicable excuse for a woman.


5 posted on 03/02/2012 12:38:51 PM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: SeekAndFind
You know this number how Pelosi? Let's see some hard provable empirical facts to back your numbers up.

Don't have any? Then you're fabricating numbers and that makes you a prevaricator.

6 posted on 03/02/2012 12:39:09 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

My numbers say 99% of all thinking people realize that Nancy Pelosi gives the word “idiot” a bad name.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 12:42:04 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: SeekAndFind

And just how does she know that 90% use something...........sounds more like a figure she pulled out of orbit. I’m calling her bluff on it!


8 posted on 03/02/2012 12:42:43 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: SeekAndFind

90% of Catholic women can buy their own dang contraceptives!


9 posted on 03/02/2012 12:44:49 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, why isn’t the MSM asking Pelosi about her sex life and that of her daughters?

Is she using federal monies for HER contraception? Or her looks and personality?


10 posted on 03/02/2012 12:46:40 PM PST by oldbill
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To: GeronL

If this number is correct ( highly doubtful ), then 90% of Catholic women IGNORE church teachings.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 12:46:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: FerociousRabbit

Only the women of the view come in a close 2nd to her.


12 posted on 03/02/2012 12:47:37 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unless 90% of the Catholic women are under the age of 50, there is no way 90% of them need to use contraceptives. Pelosi is lying again. How do I know? Her mouth is moving.


13 posted on 03/02/2012 12:47:44 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: All

Note how the attention to contraception is taking our minds off the economy.


14 posted on 03/02/2012 12:48:04 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: dragonblustar

Pelosi should have been excommunicated long ago.

Her non sequitur is a transparent attempt to buy votes.


15 posted on 03/02/2012 12:55:23 PM PST by y6162
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To: SeekAndFind
“I know that the records show that 90 percent of Catholic women of childbearing age have used birth control for the last 80 years,” Pelosi said to reporters on Thursday. ”So this is a women’s health issue.”

Even my mother wanted to have an abortion when she was pregnant with me but I was kicking and screaming inside her really hard and loud.

But it`s ok for other mothers to abort their babies. I am the only exception to that. I am above my own positions which have nothing to do with my personal life, which could have been aborted except for my big feet and my big mouth. My mother should have been fined, too, for violating the mandate.“

16 posted on 03/02/2012 12:57:35 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Pelosi`s mother should have mandated her abortion.. Who knew?)
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To: oldbill
So, why isn’t the MSM asking Pelosi about her sex life and that of her daughters? Is she using federal monies for HER contraception? Or her looks and personality?

Or her facelifts?

17 posted on 03/02/2012 12:59:04 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: GeronL

Exactly. I still cannot figure out how we got to this place in which things that are accessible to everyone are now supposed to be FREE to everyone, as a “basic human right”. Morality conflicts aside.


18 posted on 03/02/2012 12:59:28 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: SeekAndFind
And as a Catholic, I support the right of a woman to make that decision.”

So does God, though there's a line of thought that He would not approve of that decision.

That doesn't mean that the Catholic Church should subsidize it.

19 posted on 03/02/2012 1:09:25 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ScottinVA

What a disgusting, despicable excuse for a woman.

Yep. And she loves the word mandate. I can’t wait until I never see her face again in government.


20 posted on 03/02/2012 1:20:40 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: SeekAndFind

Great logic, Pelosi! Some “Catholic” women commit the sin of using birth control so we should make the entire Church sin as well? Really???!!!!!

How in the world does this woman continue to get re-elected?!


21 posted on 03/02/2012 1:23:04 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: oldbill
So, why isn’t the MSM asking Pelosi about her sex life and that of her daughters?

Please don't use "Pelosi" and "sex life" in the same sentence again. Ever.

22 posted on 03/02/2012 1:24:36 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife and I go to the 5:30 Saturday evening Mass. I have named it the ‘geezer Mass’. I know that 90% of those women aren’t using birth control. Just by looking at them.


23 posted on 03/02/2012 1:29:50 PM PST by Parmy
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To: SeekAndFind
It should be obvious, too, that the issue here has nothing to do with “choice.”

If you have the money to buy something, you have choices. If the government wanted to guarantee women more choices, they could just give every woman, every year, the average cost of a year’s worth of premium hormonal contraceptives. This would give her approx. $390 a year she can spend on anything: Snickers bars, Pills, stylish maternity clothes, NuvaRings, a one-way airfare to Hollywood, or anything else.

She gets maximum choices, she is not constrained by costs, and nobody else picks up bad karma whether she chooses 1170 very fine condoms or a good used 10-speed Schwinn.

It’s obvious that mandated payments are not about freedom to choose. They’re about promoting a divisive and controversial program by making everyone pay --- yes, YOU pay, Father or Reverend or Pastor or Rabbi or Mr. or Mrs. ---- and no, you don’t have a choice.

24 posted on 03/02/2012 1:30:00 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (My choice is not to pay for your choice.)
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To: al_c

RE: How in the world does this woman continue to get re-elected?!

The more important question is this — In what sense is she a Catholic?

Here’s another question -— GIVEN HER PUBLIC STANCE, WHAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH GOING TO DO ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF CHURCH DISCIPLINE?


25 posted on 03/02/2012 1:34:01 PM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: blueyon

I have heard from many in the Catholic Church (priests,Bishops)that the 90%was arrived at through a poll taken by Planned Parenthood.


26 posted on 03/02/2012 1:36:42 PM PST by nandrew
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To: SeekAndFind
This is Ted Kennedy's life work .... UNIVERSAL health care... Nancy Pelowise and Bart Stupak got er done. ‘Social justice’ coming to every hospital in every county across this nation... Public education has already indoctrinated into the young minds health care is a right and that includes ‘birth control’ for the gals and condoms for the boys. This is election 2012 agenda, because nothing sells quicker than ‘sex’ whether it be homo, multiple, straight, or whatever becomes the next craze. The Jerry Springer types will next demand mandated paternity testing.
27 posted on 03/02/2012 1:40:20 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1. Just because anyone does anything it does not automatically make it a health issue.

2. If 90% of Catholoci women use contraception NOW, before it’s mandated to be free, THAT MEANS this 90% of women ARE CURRENTLY ABLE TO PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES.

Pelosi is the most massive idiot female lib this country has. There may bbe others worse but given the face time she has on camera, it’s hard to find a bigger idiot.


28 posted on 03/02/2012 1:51:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Every Catholic sins. That doesn’t mean the church should be forced to subsidize it.

Also, those “90-99%” figures generally apply to having EVER used contraception. Like before being a Catholic, or on a special occasion, etc.


29 posted on 03/02/2012 2:45:08 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Waryone

Here’s a surprisingly good explanation of the 98% statistical lie.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-claim-that-98-percent-of-catholic-women-use-contraception-a-media-foul/2012/02/16/gIQAkPeqIR_blog.html


30 posted on 03/02/2012 2:49:19 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

People smoke. Where is the mandate to buy cigarettes? People drink. Where is the mandate to buy booze?
People do all sorts of things. Why should we pay for their birth control as opposed to all the things they do? This is silly. Why should I pay for somebody else having a blast committing a sin?


31 posted on 03/02/2012 3:59:34 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SeekAndFind
The more important question is this — In what sense is she a Catholic?

Here’s another question -— GIVEN HER PUBLIC STANCE, WHAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH GOING TO DO ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF CHURCH DISCIPLINE?

Mind boggling ... isn't it? And maddening.

32 posted on 03/03/2012 9:18:43 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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