Posted on 03/02/2012 4:15:43 PM PST by red flanker
Had Michigan not been as close, the Democrats would have waited to spring this on us in the general election. Luckily we have it now and I hope Ohio voters are paying attention.
In July 2009, Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed in USA Today urging Barack Obama to usean individual mandate at the national level to control healthcare costs.
On the campaign trail now, Mitt Romney says the individual mandate is appropriate for Massachusetts, but not the nation. Repeatedly in debates, Romney has said he opposes a national individual mandate.
But back in 2009, as Barack Obama was formulating his healthcare vision for the country, Mitt Romney encouraged him publicly to use an individual mandate. In his op-ed, Governor Romney suggested that the federal government learn from Massachusetts how to make healthcare available for all.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
Now why would a self-described ‘moderate with progressive views” do that??
lol
Then what will?
The failure of the GOP to nominate an opponent to Obama (Romney is not an opponent) is going to provoke a political crisis the scope of which we have not seen since 1860.
There are several possibilities, none of them very good.
First, there will be a straight-up Obama-Romney contest which will lead to Obama's reelection.
Second, a true opponent will emerge AFTER Romney locks it up and BEFORE the convention.
Third, the party will split AT the convention and there will be no official nominee.
Fourth, there will be widespread violence BEFORE the convention, a "can't we all just get along" ticket will emerge (Richardson-Huntsman, Boren-Snowe, etc), and conservatives will be locked out completely. I could go on.
The main point is that the "fundamental transformation of the United States of America" was and is a call for war, and, one way or another, war is coming. The last normal prewar election has already happened. The first postwar election can't happen until conservatives are eliminated "by any means necessary" OR the Left is eliminated, again, by any means necessary.
Interesting times.
Just now coming out?
I am against all free handouts. You are making an illogical argument when you say that the freeloaders who can afford insurance but do not buy it. There are hundreds of thousands of these people who end up in hospital and then can’t afford the humongous bill without help from insurance.
My wife was hospitalized for 2 days for outpatient surgery and the hospital bill was $40,000. Good thing we have insurance. Otherwise others would be stuck with our bill.
As for mandates, it must be a state issue, not federal. If I do not like mandates on a state I can move to another.
I fully agree with you that a catastrophic only coverage should be available. So should you be allowed to purchase insurance from out of state. The insurance should be portable from job to job. Groups should be allowed to form so you can buy in bulk instead of as individual.
Many reforms are needed. What we have now is not working, and the solution is not one size fits all national Obamacare.
please See my post above.
Health care is certainly out of control cost wise as it now exists. The mandate I am talking about is not nation wide. Each state should be free to legislate as it sees fit for their need. Also, any mandate should never include everything as you say. I am talking about a policy which would only cover catastrophic medical expense.
That is looking probable.
The main point is that the "fundamental transformation of the United States of America" was and is a call for war, and, one way or another, war is coming.
Many Republicans will sell out all that they claim to believe in for a penny on the dollar: a little tax break, another Middle East war, a few less regulations. With promises of such crumbs made to them, they will support Romney.
The first postwar election can't happen until conservatives are eliminated "by any means necessary"
That's happening: anti-Christian immorality is imposed by judicial decree, the private sector is converted to being just another part of the public sector, and free speech is stomped on with a brutality that makes Nazis look slow-moving in comparison.
OR the Left is eliminated, again, by any means necessary.
Regarding that, what do you recommend?
Whoa. This needs to spread!
The government has no power to force an illegal immigrant to buy insurance. This illegal will still go to the ER, and the ER will treat him just the same.
Lots of other people, not illegals, are getting government assistance. That assistance is less than the premiums that Obamacare is about to saddle us all with. These people will not be paying anything (they legally can't.) This means that not working (or working unofficially) just became even more profitable.
Lots of other people do not want insurance. Insurance is needed only when you cannot afford something. If you can, you are better off self-insuring. Majority of large businesses are self-insured, and anyone who is "sufficiently" wealthy can also do the same. Insurance companies are working for profit. You can become your own insurance company and keep the profit. If you have a $100K in liquid assets you may be already good to go this way. If you need more, chances are it's not treatable anyway, and you will do better if you just use the money in a more worthy way. There are also groups of people (some are church-based, other are not) that do the same within the group; this allows you to join with zero capital and invest as you go. In essence, that is a commune-based, not for profit insurance company.
And, of course, requiring anyone to buy a commercial product is completely insane from every point of view. Such a mandate is deeply offensive and has no place in a free society. A free man cannot be forced to pay just because he is alive.
I'm too old to go bushwhacking.
You have to spend a lot of money to find out if the complaint is a "true emergency" - or you have to ban lawsuits for error.
So we’re both against gov mandates. Heritage, too. That’s good. But I think your first post threw us off a little bit.
Why should I have to support these free loaders?
Why should healthy people pay for sick old people? Maybe the government should get out of medicine all together.
why didn’t you locate this yourself? Why are you counting on a santotum volunteer to find this? Romney pours millions into oppo research. Santorum has a few hundred volunteers
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