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Rick Santorumís Ohio Delegate Problems Pile Up (Could lose up to 1/4 of Super Tuesday haul)
ABC News ^ | Mar 2, 2012 | Michael Falcone

Posted on 03/02/2012 7:42:15 PM PST by Allon

UPDATED: COLUMBUS, Ohio — Even if Rick Santorum wins Ohio on Super Tuesday, he won’t be able to claim all of its delegates. In fact, he is at risk of forfeiting more than one-quarter of them. In three of the state’s 16 congressional districts, including two that are near Ohio’s border with Pennsylvania, Santorum will lose any delegates he might have won because his campaign failed to meet the state’s eligibility requirements months ago. Those three districts alone take 9 delegates out of a total of 66 off the table for Santorum. But it gets worse: Nine more Ohio delegates may also be in jeopardy. Sources say that in six other congressional districts — the third, fourth, eighth, tenth, twelfth and sixteenth — Santorum submitted fewer names than required to be eligible for all three delegates up-for-grabs in each district.

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1 posted on 03/02/2012 7:42:27 PM PST by Allon
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To: Allon

How is this just coming out now, 3 days before the election. Was he challenged by Romney on this?


2 posted on 03/02/2012 7:48:57 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: Allon

How is this just coming out now, 3 days before the election. Was he challenged by Romney on this?


3 posted on 03/02/2012 7:48:57 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: Allon

“According to the Ohio GOP, the Santorum campaign is missing the names of one delegate in the state’s third district, two in the fourth, one delegate in the eighth, two delegates in the tenth, one delegate in the twelfth and two delegates in the sixteenth. Santorum’s opponents — Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich — each filed full slates in all of Ohio’s districts as did two candidates who are no longer in the race, Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman”

Ouch! Also according to the report Santorum has problems in other states. GO NEWT GO!


4 posted on 03/02/2012 8:02:07 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Steelers6

I don’t know, but given that many of the states have been penalized for not following the rules, including Newt and Santorum not qualifying for the VA ballot, I wouldn’t be surprised if the legalities here in Ohio hold up.

Frankly, I think the whole system is messed up. One thing it does do is force candidates to get their ground games going early.


5 posted on 03/02/2012 8:05:42 PM PST by Allon
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To: Allon

Oh you KNOW Romney is behind the chicanery. There is NO WAY, NOW WAY - I will ever vote for this snake-oil salesman, Elmer Gantry Romney.

A vote for Romney in these primaries is an absolute, unequivical vote TODAY - for Barack Hussein Obama. Romney is every bit as much of a socialist sabotaging phony as is Barack Obama.

http://www.MitigateRomney.com


6 posted on 03/02/2012 8:11:12 PM PST by publius321
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To: Allon; All

This, plus not getting on the ballot at all in Virginia. Great organization you got there Ricky boy. If you get the nomination, your inept team will surely beat the Obama machine hands-down this November.

How did we end up with such crappy candidates this Election cycle?


7 posted on 03/02/2012 8:14:17 PM PST by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: no dems

Because Reagan is dead.


8 posted on 03/02/2012 8:16:12 PM PST by Allon
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To: Parley Baer

Maybe Newt will pick up some of those wayward delegates. Go Newt go!


9 posted on 03/02/2012 8:16:28 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Allon
One thing it does do is force candidates to get their ground games going early.

It favors big money establishment candidates.

10 posted on 03/02/2012 8:18:33 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

According to the article, only the winner of that district can claim the delegates, and then, only if he qualified for them to represent him, prior to the primary.

In other words, if Rick wins a district, but doesn’t get the delegates, no one gets them.

Ohio may end up with half it’s delegates like S.C. or Florida.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 8:20:46 PM PST by Allon
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To: outofstyle

“It favors big money establishment candidates. “

I think it favors candidates who can get their act together.

And no, I’m not a Romney supporter. But I think if you want to lead the free world you should dot your i’s and cross your t’s.


12 posted on 03/02/2012 8:23:10 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: publius321

How is Romney behind Santorum not getting enough signatures?


13 posted on 03/02/2012 8:26:28 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Allon
By hook or by crook, the GOP-E is gonna force Romney to be the nominee.

I am so staying home this november.

14 posted on 03/02/2012 8:38:31 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Parley Baer
Super Tuesday will look extremely bad for Santorum if he has to forfeit huge amounts of Delegates in OH he already has in VA.

Santorum not being able to Compete in Va is absolutely mind boggling that his birth place. Remember you have to win your home state. He is going to have to fight Newt hard for the PA delegates that is Newt birth place.

Just Imagine if Newt had not qualified for GA. This is a Huge Issue for Santorum.

15 posted on 03/02/2012 8:41:51 PM PST by Bailee (Vote Newt the Pitt bull we need. Energy Independence and we bow to NO foreign dictator.)
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To: Steelers6

Is this MSM’s Romney’s attempt of voter suppression ? or another Romney scam in the works ?


16 posted on 03/02/2012 8:47:14 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Allon
People, please understand and BELIEVE: This race, as all primaries, is about delegate wins.

Santorum didn't have money and organization in time to get everything signed up in Ohio, just like he and Gingrich didn't get it done in VA.

Prior to this year it's likely Romney would have things pretty much wrapped up. The difference this time in Proportional Allocation and revolutionary unrest in the base.

This is the reason Santorum is not spending as much time as he would otherwise in Ohio...he CAN'T WIN IT even if he pick up 49% of the vote.

People, times are desperate.

Do not surrender.

17 posted on 03/02/2012 8:58:29 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Allon

GO NEWT GO..........


18 posted on 03/02/2012 9:04:46 PM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Allon
Old guy here.

I like Rick. I liked Ike, too. Rick should keep on...all the way to a brokered convention.

BTW I voted in Ohio for Newt.

19 posted on 03/02/2012 9:09:35 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Steelers6

“How is this just coming out now, 3 days before the election. Was he challenged by Romney on this?”


For the same reason Newt was nuked on bloody thursday by Drudge and the GOP establishment. It’s negative media meant to kill turnout prior to super Tuesday.


20 posted on 03/02/2012 9:15:51 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Allon

These eligibility requirements are a real problem for the GOP in 2012. Absurd that only Romney and Paul will be on the VA ballot, for example. Yes, Rick and Newt “should have” taken care of this months ago, but then neither one of them had 1/10th of Mitt’s war chest back then.


21 posted on 03/02/2012 9:24:57 PM PST by montag813
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To: American Constitutionalist
Is this MSM’s Romney’s attempt of voter suppression ? or another Romney scam in the works ?

It's a little of both with a lot of pump and dump from the MSM probably with help from the DNC. Romney is really good at trashing his opponents. But, it takes the MSM to pump each of his opponents up to the level where they need to be taken out. E.g., Palin (who was so trashed that she never entered the race), Bachmann, Cain, Newt, and now Santorum.

22 posted on 03/02/2012 9:41:14 PM PST by foxfield
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To: montag813

Besides money, it surely can’t hurt that both Paul and Romney have run before.


23 posted on 03/02/2012 9:49:42 PM PST by PghBaldy (Once again, Obama proves he is not an honest broker. He can't be trusted.)
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To: Rudder
BTW I voted in Ohio for Newt.

me too brother.

24 posted on 03/03/2012 12:08:49 AM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Allon

More dirty tricks of Team Romney?

probably.


25 posted on 03/03/2012 3:16:29 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Allon

I ask myself how a poorly funded candidate can jump all these legal hurdles for a full 50 states, and now it appears that it is by county.

Lots of money certainly seems to be the key for anyone wanting to run for the presidency. And that’s why billionaire funding seems to be the key to success.

It truly does mean that American candidates are bought and paid for.

We all realize, of course, that that is not the original constitutional system of electors being selected and then meeting to select a president.

The original system would mean that accomplishment and not access to wealth would have been the key determinant in who was considered for selection.


26 posted on 03/03/2012 3:31:50 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Steelers6; All

Rick has the same problem in TN


27 posted on 03/03/2012 3:33:54 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you more time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: Allon
Stupidity does not win elections. The social conservative should get out and give the fiscal conservative his support.
Go Newt
28 posted on 03/03/2012 3:35:05 AM PST by John D
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To: Diogenesis

For once, this had nothing to do with dirty tricks from Romney. Santorum’s campaign organization, or lack there of, failed to do what was required of them.


29 posted on 03/03/2012 3:35:27 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you more time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: RC one

I was actually undecided.. but I just made up my mind. One more for Newt in Ohio.


30 posted on 03/03/2012 4:10:20 AM PST by pnut22
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To: georgiagirl_pam
Bull....There is no coincidence that this coming out 3 days before the primary. These changes to rules in Michigan, Ohio, Virginia, etc are absolutely ridiculous. If they can do it to Santorum, they can do it to Newt too. And they will if they have too just to ensure that Romney is the nominee.
31 posted on 03/03/2012 6:14:56 AM PST by bushinohio
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To: Allon
Looks like Ricky was just a little slow on the uptake of getting his act together to get on the ballot where other candidates were able to make the deadline.

Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich — each filed full slates in all of Ohio’s districts as did two candidates who are no longer in the race, Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman

32 posted on 03/03/2012 6:24:30 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: bushinohio

Actually, this is something that happened MONTHS ago, not in the last few days. The news media is only reporting on it now because Ohio votes on Tuesday and Santorum went from nowhere to leading in the polls.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/rick-santorums-ohio-delegate-problems-pile-up/

From the article “According to the Ohio GOP, the Santorum campaign is missing the names of one delegate in the state’s third district, two in the fourth, one delegate in the eighth, two delegates in the tenth, one delegate in the twelfth and two delegates in the sixteenth. Santorum’s opponents — Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich — each filed full slates in all of Ohio’s districts as did two candidates who are no longer in the race, Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman.”

So everyone but Rick was able to field a full slate of delegates in Ohio.

It is the lack of organization and money on Rick’s part that is causing him all of this heartache here at crunch time. That goes for Newt in VA, as well. And I do chalk that up to the establishment stacking the deck (”rules”) in favor of the “anointed one” with all the money. But this was done a LONG TIME AGO, not the last few weeks. Which means that it was not done TO Santorum, it was done to anyone that wasn’t the Establishment’s pick.


33 posted on 03/03/2012 6:35:26 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: Allon

Does anyone remember the Ohio republican establishment challenging Obama’s eligibility either today for this years election, or back in 2008?

Yet, we must not allow Santorum to be qualified in our state because we juts discovered two or three signatures may not either be real or we miscounted and he is short!

Really makes you wonder if they would ever dare challenge a Democrat on anything that may be illegal or unethical like they do conservatives these days.

I am still waiting for Virginia republicans to demand Obama not be on the ballot because Sheriff Joe proved electronic copy his BS is a fraud.

I am really beginning to feel that even the Republican establishment was in on the fix to make Obama president in 2008, and they will stop at nothing to get him re-elected. As long as they can have the Senate and the House, they are willing to give Satan’s son the WH.

God help us, we truly are going to get screwed this election year, and it would have been the Republican go alongs who have done it to us.


34 posted on 03/03/2012 8:01:51 AM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: Steelers6
How is this just coming out now, 3 days before the election.

Some of us have been pointing out Santorum's eligibility problems for a long time.

35 posted on 03/03/2012 8:07:14 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: no dems

“How did we end up with such crappy candidates this Election cycle”

I’ve been asking the same question. lol


36 posted on 03/03/2012 8:09:40 AM PST by sarah palin rocks
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To: Rudder
Old guy here.
I like Rick. I liked Ike, too.


Wow, you liked Ike?

I am proud and honored to meet you. You have been fighting the left for a looonnng time. Ike was the establishments choice back then also.

This whole internet thing has surely made your fight against the left all that better i would bet. How does it feel to know that the majority of the Republican party is farther to the left than the whole Democrat party was when you pulled the lever for Ike?
37 posted on 03/03/2012 8:11:42 AM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: Allon

...And in Tennessee, Santorum has ZERO delegates.


38 posted on 03/03/2012 8:48:16 AM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: FreeReign

It’s obvious, most Santorum supporters are clueless or brain dead. We did warn them, but they refused to understand what we were saying. Now we all suffer the result of their stupidity.


39 posted on 03/03/2012 8:58:01 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: georgiagirl_pam

The only person that threatens Romney in Ohio is Santorum. The others are not a threat at all and gain very little. Duhhhh? LOL


40 posted on 03/03/2012 9:03:49 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

That’s not the point dforest. This is a DELEGATES GAME. It doesn’t matter how well Rick does in Ohio, he won’t be able to optimize the delegates.


41 posted on 03/03/2012 9:26:29 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: georgiagirl_pam

The best way to fail to optimize any delegates is to not get very many votes.

You shoild be thrilled Santorum may lose Ohio and Newt will win Ohio. Right? Oh wait....


42 posted on 03/03/2012 9:36:54 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

Can we just be serious for a minute? Yes, I am a STRONG NEWT SUPPORTER and I think that we are going to see a very different delegates race over the next 2 weeks. For Rick’s supporters to not even know how the delegates game works is pretty frustrating.

HOWEVER, ultimately I will vote for Rick if he is the nominee, no pouting, no staying home in protest. I am NOT rooting for his loss, I am just rooting for Newt’s WIN because I believe he has the better chance to beat Obama.


43 posted on 03/03/2012 9:51:40 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: georgiagirl_pam

If you are unable to get the majority of primary voters in your own party to vote for you, you have no chance at all to win against Obama.

It is a little hard to believe you are so much more smart and savvy on the allocation of delegates than anyone else this time, Apparently rules are changing and problems are coming up that weren’t reported earlier. *wink wink* Try this tip, you have to place somewhere in front of Ron Paul in most states to get any at all. And if you do, like in Florida, where the rule was that the delegates were to be proportional, then all at once they weren’t, somebody gets screwed.

In Iowa, Romney didnt win, yet people out there probably think he did. In Maine, that was a real sham, talk about incompetent, they couldn’t even tally the votes before declaring Mitt the winner. In Virginia, voters are denied any choices but Romney or Paul. No write ins allowed. Whatta country! Santorum was also denied in Indiana until it was fought and proven that he qualified.

The allocation of delegates this time depends on what benefits the candidate Romney. The GOP is an embarrassment.

In the end, I will vote for either one, Rick or Newt, its up to them to duke it out. But Romney will still get the nod.


44 posted on 03/03/2012 10:41:57 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

DELEGATE RACE AS IT STANDS NOW:
Romney- 154, of those 36 are non-binding= 118 solid
Santorum- 69, of those 52 are non-binding= 17 solid
Gingrich- 33, of those 3 are non-binding= 30 solid
Paul- 26, of those 18 are non-binding= 8 solid

POPULAR VOTE TOTALS:
Romney- 1,749,677
Gingrich- 978,229
Santorum- 932,508
Paul- 463,176

All information found at Real Clear Politics


45 posted on 03/03/2012 12:38:12 PM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: publius321

That’s too bad you won’t vote for him.

As Andrew Breitbart said so eloquently at CPAC, we need to get behind the nominee NO MATTER WHO it is. If we don’t, we are just like the occupy movement.

There are RULES. Santorum didn’t follow the rules. We are the party of rules and laws, yet you don’t want us to be this time? If Santorum can’t get this basic concept right how is he going to do as CIC?


46 posted on 03/03/2012 1:29:35 PM PST by GoMU
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To: bushinohio

There were no rule changes. just stupidity by Santorum.


47 posted on 03/03/2012 1:38:46 PM PST by John D
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To: OneVike
When...the Republican party is farther to the left than the whole Democrat party was when you pulled the lever for Ike?

At times, it's virtually unbelievable.

48 posted on 03/03/2012 2:10:09 PM PST by Rudder
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To: no dems; Allon; Bailee; All; Antoninus; CharlesWayneCT; writer33; Lazlo in PA; napscoordinator

7 posted on Friday, March 02, 2012 10:14:17 PM by no dems: “This, plus not getting on the ballot at all in Virginia. Great organization you got there Ricky boy. If you get the nomination, your inept team will surely beat the Obama machine hands-down this November. How did we end up with such crappy candidates this Election cycle?”

15 posted on Friday, March 02, 2012 10:41:51 PM by Bailee: “Santorum not being able to Compete in Va is absolutely mind boggling that his birth place. Remember you have to win your home state. He is going to have to fight Newt hard for the PA delegates that is Newt birth place. Just Imagine if Newt had not qualified for GA. This is a Huge Issue for Santorum.”

First off, please stop the “Ricky boy” stuff. I don’t say things like that about Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney.

Second, I actually agree with both of you on the problems with Santorum’s campaign and lack of organization.

However, does that mean you’re supporting Romney? Gingrich failed to get on the ballot in Virginia, and didn’t bother filing for the primary in my state of Missouri. Remember that Virginia is where Gingrich actually lives, and before dismissing Missouri’s primary as a “beauty contest” that selected no delegates, remember that’s also true of the Washington state caucuses being held today, and several other nonbinding races.

I’m not happy with the lack of organization in either the Gingrich or Santorum campaigns. I’ve said publicly and repeatedly that we, as conservatives, are in a position where we should not be. We have the best chance in years to strike a devastating blow against liberalism and we’re blowing it with screwups like this.

The problem is that the same complaints can be made against Gingrich. I don’t consider Ron Paul to be a serious candidate since even he doesn’t think he’ll be elected and is merely trying to get enough delegates to have a libertarian influence on the party, and Romney is the only one of the serious candidates who had enough organizational aptitude and money to get on the ballot in all the states and do what should be standard for all candidates.

So blast Santorum all you want. You’ve got a good point. The problem is the disorganization complaints apply to Gingrich as well — and also applied to Rick Perry and several other candidates who had ballot access problems.


49 posted on 03/03/2012 4:01:33 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
“The problem is the disorganization complaints apply to Gingrich as well — and also applied to Rick Perry and several other candidates who had ballot access problems.

Absolutely Agree on Virginia. However I was off the impression Newt would be able to compete for Missouri 52 delegates on March 17th. Is this not the case?

I recon when all is said and done OH is actually better than VA. At least Santorum get credit for those delegates in OH that he managed to seat. But in VA it is all or none.

50 posted on 03/03/2012 6:39:00 PM PST by Bailee (Vote Newt the Pitt bull we need. Energy Independence and we bow to NO foreign dictator.)
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