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Belgian LANR Patents
Ecat Site ^ | February 27, 2012 | Tom Baccei

Posted on 03/02/2012 8:52:46 PM PST by Kevmo

Belgian LANR Patents
Posted on February 27, 2012 by Admin
In work done over many years, a Belgian industrial chemist and patent attorney, Joannes Van den Bogaert, had several LANR patents granted in his home country of Belgium. While the devices are different in many ways from those currently being researched in the LENR/LANR arena, they also bear striking similarities to them. Those similarities are: The same metals, nano-particles, lattices, vortexes, some input energy source, hydrogen (deuterium), liquid cooling etc, and the release of energy in the form of heat, by overcoming the Coulomb barrier. The patents in question were originally written and submitted in Flemish and have existed in obscurity until now. They were issued some 20 years ago and Mr. Van den Bogaert has translated two of these patents into English for the purpose of wider viewing and dissemination. A third patent (BE1003296) was sequestered by Belgium Ministry of Defense for a period of time, apparently due to safety concerns, and an English translation is not currently available. The two available patents can be viewed and downloaded by clicking the following patent numbers, BE1002780 and BE1002781 .

My first impression is that the same phenomenon is involved as the many and varied LENR/LANR results over the years. They perhaps would be useful additions to development efforts, but that is hard to say at this moment .

In addition, Mr. Van den Bogaert who is a chemist, developed a theory attempting to explain the reactions observed. A very brief examination of the theories shows that a serious mathematical analysis regarding the source of mass in particles, and its relationship to spin, and the foundation of a means by which a “spin vortex” might give rise to the creation of particles, and anti-particles. I am not qualified to comment on the potential validity of this theory, but I will make a few general comments about it .

This theory, like the Wladimir Guglinski theories found at the Journal for Nuclear Physics website (Rossi’s site), and several other theories, including the Widom-Larson theory now in vogue, is reductionist in nature. It seeks to understand the phenomenon at a subatomic level, and basically competes with the standard model (although Widom-Larson is largely consistent with the standard model). The problem for these theories is that the standard model explains so much, so accurately (by far the most precise predictive tool ever discovered) that any proposed replacement theory would have an immense burden in supplanting it. While there are areas where the standard theory is not an exact match to experiment, it seems quite unlikely that the Van den Bogaert theory would stand up to serious scrutiny. That being said, it IS clear that LENR/LANR phenomena do seem to lie outside of the predictive power in any current physical theories. It is my belief that LENR/LANR is emergent from the the properties of quantum sized particles, and only exists in a lattice of deuteride in a particular size range (see Ahern’s slides). I have struggled to grasp Mr. Van den Bogaerts theories and compare them to the little I actually know of the standard theory, and hope that someone far more trained than I will take the time to comment more fully .

There is no doubt that there is a battle raging at the outskirts of science, and it will not go away. As far back as 120 years ago, it was thought that science had completed it’s work and all that was left to do was add more and more detail. That is except for a few stray threads, like black body radiation and the speed of light thru the ether. These few stray threads led to a revolution in physics so profound as to stagger the mind. Bertrand Russell, the philosopher/mathematician, along with Alfred Whitehead, thought that mathematics was complete, and were working on an algebra which would encompass ALL of it. They almost succeeded but, thanks largely to the intellectual honesty of Russell and the few pernicious paradoxes which he could not overcome, he concluded that the quest was in vain. That was followed not too long after by Curt Godell, who put a stake through the heart of the logical positivists with his incompleteness theory .

Physics now plods along in the pristine clarity of string theory and, while it is a remarkable intellectual and mathematical accomplishment, it has left the realm of science behind. The few vexing problems, the incompatibility of the classical and the quantum worlds, have not gone away. Super conductivity, quantum computing, strange “action at a distance” via Bell’s inequality and startling modern demonstrations of it’s repercussions will not go away…and the LENR phenomena will not go away .

The problem with Dick Smith in his honest (perhaps) efforts to help, is that exposing a fraud, while useful, is trivial compared to the results he might obtain by funding a PLAN X prize…and NOT for the production of a mega or kilo watt, but for ONE SIMPLE PROOF, an experiment ANYONE can do, that verify LENR/LANR are unavoidably real phenomena. The tiny thread, sir, follow the tiny thread! Rossi and DGT do not matter, they are irrelevant. If they have the magic sauce GREAT and, if not, who cares. The tiny thread is unavoidable, and tugging on it seems more than likely to produce miracles like computers and lasers and television and, well, the whole modern world that resulted from pulling on that small thread 120 years ago .

Look everyone who cares about LENR, either skeptic or fanatic, the repercussions are so profound that it is impossible to avoid the fact that they (Rossi and DGT) must be under tremendous stress if they DO have a practical working device. It is inconceivable that governments, and the Military Financial Complex, are not poised to move on them in one way or another. So, Mr. Smith, having read at that you are extending your $1M offer to ANYONE who can demonstrate a 1 kilowatt device – BRAVO! But please consider amending your offer to include any device which reliably produces an unambiguous result of any size, so long as that device can be made available to anyone who cares to test it hands on. We must have the “Thread that Roared!” to shake the physics community out of its angels wrapped in string self hypnosis!
Here’s another urban myth propagated by the pathoskeps: Large amounts of money has already been spent in pursuit of LENR/LANR, and nothing to show for it. Well, I doubt it! Can some one of the expert historians out there put together a credible spreadsheet of how many projects and how much money has gone into LENR/LANR and then compare it to the money spent researching Rogaine, or Solar Power, or Viagra, Hot fusion, or the search for the Higgs, which, if found will be fascinating, but will have NO practical value!
I wish to thank Mr. Van den Bogaert for his work, and invite him very much to comment here regarding my clearly amateur representation of his theories. I do not say they are wrong, I simply say they have an awfully steep hill to climb!
To the relief of many pathoskeps, I will be off on vacation for ten days, but will have an iPad with me, so I will watch the e-Cat news, and make some small, badly typed postings if I am so moved .

Admin Note: If it is not apparent, credit needs to be given to Tom Baccei for the above write up. He spent many days examining the patent documents and I thank him for the work he has put in. Unfortunately, he flew off to his mid-winter trip to a warm beach and neglected to upload his draft in a manner where he could be proper credit for all the time he put in. Definitely a forgivable (and understandable) oversight, don’t you think?
In addition to Tom’s assessment of the patents, I also had the good fortune of having Dr. Edmund Storms take the time to review the patent documents as well. He was very gracious to do so and provided his assessment to both Mr. Van den Bogaert and to myself. His assessment was similar to Tom’s but, more specifically, he felt the patents had no practical utility. In an e-mail he stated:
“As is well known, a useful patent must show exactly how an idea can be reduced to practice. If the idea can be explained well enough to show how various paths can be taken to achieve a successful application, so much the better. People make a mistake when they propose a mechanism that cannot operate based on well established experience in nuclear physics, is known not to occur, or is so general or imaginative to have no theoretical support. In addition, the phenomenon is now sufficiently well understood that a collection of behaviors must all be explained at the same time if the proposed mechanism is to be believed. I have given up trying to explain how each proposed mechanism violates either conventional scientific understanding or what is now known about the phenomenon. Eventually, someone will find the correct idea and the discussion will focus in more productive directions. Unfortunately, this has not yet happened. “
In yet another e-mail, he added: “However, everyone in the field welcomes any interest we can attract even when the contribution is not particularly useful, as is the case with the patents.”
To that, I would just like to add that although the patents may not have practical utility, I find them interesting for a number of reasons. As Tom pointed out, they do cover ideas now widely considered in the field, including the use of nano-particles, emphasis on the importance of the lattice in the reactions and use of the gas phase. He WAS SUCCESSFUL in getting his work patented, something that many researchers have failed to do for a variety of reasons, often prejudicial. And, regardless of the seeming lack of practical utility of the documented patents, one of them (which is unfortunately not available for review) was considered to be of enough interest to be sequestered by the Belgium Ministry of Defense .

In some ways, Mr. Van den Bogaert was ahead of his time and my hat is off to him in that regard. Also, although Mr. Van den Bogaert is aware of the criticisms of his work, he is willing to make himself available to answer your questions on this site. I thank him for this willingness to so and would request all readers to be respectful in your questions to him whether you agree with his ideas or not .

Here is an excerpt from an e-mail he sent to me that gives just a little more insight to his ideas contained in the patents and his awareness of potential controversy:
“I have read the e-mail directed to you by Dr. Ed Storms and as a former patent agent I fully agree that the basis for a useful patent is reduction to practice. I must confess that in the last early nineties I tried to circumvent the Fleischmann-Pons electrolysis method for “cold fusion” and I directed my ideas to “cold fusion” in gas phase. At that time the terminology “lattice assisted nuclear reaction” (LANR) did not exist yet. I tried to understand how a Coulomb barrier could be surmounted in a deuterium absorbing crystal, e.g. Pd, and found it acceptable to introduce “electrostatic wetting” as a phenomenon having an analogy to the idea of proton orbital broadening in the presence of a strong surplus of electrons as explained in BE1002780. I am of the opinion that orbital condensation of single particles (e-) is a well known phenomenon in carbon-type organic chemistry and may also work in metal crystals having absorbed deuterons in the presence of an electron sea being present in a conductive metal cathode. Free protons are elementary particles that may behave as electrons and I consider them not as tiny point particles but flexible enough to become a large smeared out orbital associated with the surplus electrons in the crystal lattice of the metal. Reversing the polarity of the cathode (becoming anode) will drain off the electrons very rapidly but leave the protons captured between the metal cations of the crystal grid and make them to condense with the neutrons to form cations , e.g. triton+, that can leave the crystal lattice, (helium cannot from Pd) hereby resulting in mass defect.”

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1 posted on 03/02/2012 8:52:51 PM PST by Kevmo
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2 posted on 03/02/2012 8:54:03 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Kevmo
I am not qualified to comment on the potential validity of this theory,

The only sentence in the article worth reading.

3 posted on 03/03/2012 12:19:06 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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And meanwhile, in other LENR/Rossi/Defkalion news...

Just a few days after Defkalion supposedly started their "public" testing with "well-known" labs, they suddenly locked down their web forum, apparently because people were asking uncomfortable questions. Defkalion is now saying they will release no further public information until they have a device ready to sell.

Although Defkalion stated that they would release both the names of the "well-known" testing organizations and the test procedures prior to the tests, they never did so. So, instead of being well-known, they are anonymous, if they exist at all.

4 posted on 03/03/2012 2:47:48 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Moonman62

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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5 posted on 03/03/2012 6:48:27 AM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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Kevmo's standard reply:

La-la-la! I can't hear you! La-la-la!

6 posted on 03/03/2012 6:59:50 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

Notice how this is another LENR/LANR (fancy terms used to avoid the deserved bad reputation of Cold Fusion) article, posted by either Kevmo or Wonder Warthog, that just has to mention Rossi?

7 posted on 03/03/2012 8:10:19 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Good work.

Sounds like what happened to an early discussion of what turned out to be Quarks and Hadronic Forces ~ guy was about 200 years early and they didn't even have a good definition of what a molecule might be, to say nothing of atoms and subatomic particles.

Let's hope Bogaerts wasn't 200 years early ~ but maybe only 21 years early!

Now about the third patent (BE1003296) ~ that's probably the one that describes what we've come to know as the North Korean fizzle bombs. I think the Indians did a couple of those too, and maybe the Japanese built a few (using deuterium ~ from Germany). With the Belgian military ministry having sequestered it the thing may well be in the hands of DOD, and certainly others.

Another item - the statement: "It is my belief that LENR/LANR is emergent from the the properties of quantum sized particles, and only exists in a lattice of deuteride in a particular size range " ~ doesn't that haul us back to the "emergent phenomenon" that a lot of the apparently productive experiments have used what can only be described as deuteride anodes typical of those used in modern design high energy capacity batteries?

Should we buy shares in the Chinese factory or Union Carbide?

That's Theory 987 ~ that all advances in current technology will arise out of something already in widespread use ~ e.g. diesel engines were first built out of internal combustion spark controlled engines, and they arose out of steam engines ~ but most particularly the WATER PUMPS those engines drove.

The Archimedes screw was certainly in there somewhere but it ended up as the screw driven window opener on my jalousies.

8 posted on 03/03/2012 12:44:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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