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Brig Ali planned attack on(Pakistani Army)GHQ with F-16 plane
The Nation ^ | 3/2/2012 | The Nation Monitoring

Posted on 03/02/2012 9:38:31 PM PST by U-238

Brigadier Ali Khan, currently facing court martial for alleged links with the banned Hizbut Tahrir, had conspired with an air force pilot to bomb the General Headquarters with an F-16 jet during a conference of the corps commanders, reported BBC on Thursday.

Brig Ali Khan was arrested last year on suspicion of having contacts with the Hizbut Tahrir.

He has been accused of trying to stage a rebellion against the government and planning an attack on the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi. His family has denied the charges.

Major Suhail Akbar, a prosecution witness, said in his statement that Khan and some members of Hizbut Tahrir had told him that an F-16 combat jet would be used to target the army headquarters during a conference of corps or formation commanders.

Akbar said in his written statement to a military court that an F-16 pilot at a military airbase near Rawalpindi was persuaded to carry out the attack.

Akbar further said Khan also had plans to target an ‘American-controlled airbase’ in Pakistan and installations of the Blackwater security company with an F-16, BBC Urdu reported.

Akbar admitted that he had been meeting Hizb members for seven years. He claimed Khan was present at a meeting of Hizbut Tahrir members in July 2010.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.com.pk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aerospae; f16; islamabad; pakistan; pakistaniairforce; rawalpindi

1 posted on 03/02/2012 9:38:42 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

This is why I’m so glad we sold them the F-16’s with the secret remote kill switch. Jeezus - separating the trustworthy from the untrustworthy over there is just about impossible.


2 posted on 03/02/2012 9:45:22 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

The issue should be is whether in such a mode these F-16s may be able to infect other data linked platforms.


3 posted on 03/02/2012 9:47:25 PM PST by U-238
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

The F-16 can be compromised by the plane’s satellite receiver on the tail of the plane.Any party that controls the GPS transmission can scramble anything it wants into the aircraft’s receiver. This can simple be a passive activation of a hidden trigger.


4 posted on 03/02/2012 9:51:27 PM PST by U-238
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

You can do the same thing to a JF-17


5 posted on 03/02/2012 9:58:07 PM PST by U-238
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
separating the trustworthy from the untrustworthy over there is just about impossible.

A little editorial assistance. I think it's more accurate with the stricken out words removed.

6 posted on 03/02/2012 10:04:32 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: U-238

The US should have a policy of dismembering Pakistan into its tribal/ethnic/religious groups. The danger of it collapsing is less than the danger of keeping it as is.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 10:08:10 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

The biggest problem for the United States is securing Pakistans nuclear weapons.


8 posted on 03/02/2012 10:09:28 PM PST by U-238
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To: PGR88

Before we consider dividing it up, is getting those nukes out


9 posted on 03/02/2012 10:10:11 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

nothing from Pakistan is allowed into the USA - no products, no people.


10 posted on 03/02/2012 10:29:09 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

I agree with that.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 10:30:11 PM PST by U-238
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
The joke I heard back in 60’s about Vietnam went something like this:

To win the war, you evacuate all the South Vietnamese you trust and put them on a ship.

Then you carpet bomb every square inch from the Southern tip of South Vietnam to the Northern Border of North Vietnam.

Then you torpedo the ship.

Not in good taste, but it was told by many of my older Brother's friends that served over there.

It was a joke then. When it comes to the Mid East Arabic Countries, it wouldn't be a joke, it would be the reality. You can't trust a one of them. I feel for our Brave Men and Women who can't turn their backs on our Military “allies” in those Godforsaken places.

12 posted on 03/02/2012 10:39:38 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Geez, MIDDLE EAST. I’ve had a long day...


13 posted on 03/02/2012 10:40:53 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken; U-238
From where and how exactly do you come to know if a airborne Pakistani pilot on a routine mision has suddenly gone rogue? How much reaction time do you think you have to locate and identify the rogue Pakistani pilot before the pilot launches the payload at the target? From where and how exactly do you deploy the kill switch? And what makes you sure that Pakistanis have not been able to deactivate the kill switch ...perhaps with a little Chinese help.
14 posted on 03/07/2012 12:15:24 PM PST by ravager
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To: ravager

According to software point of view, a kill switch cannot just turn of the systems of an aircraft when airborne. It could cause a crash. Rebooting isn’t easy in air. One more thing to consider is that all systems are tested prior to take off and ammunitions updated in the aircraft’s digital inventory.


15 posted on 03/07/2012 2:38:47 PM PST by U-238
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To: ravager

According to software point of view, a kill switch cannot just turn of the systems of an aircraft when airborne. It could cause a crash. Rebooting isn’t easy in air. One more thing to consider is that all systems are tested prior to take off and ammunitions updated in the aircraft’s digital inventory.


16 posted on 03/07/2012 2:38:55 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

None of that answers the questions I asked.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 4:25:30 PM PST by ravager
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To: ravager

Those all hypothetical questions. I do not have the answer to that.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 5:22:34 PM PST by U-238
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To: ravager

Those are all psychological questions. I only can answer the technical questions.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 5:23:17 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

I have never heard of any Western pilot “going rogue” in any Western Air Force. I am pretty sure that the flight surgeon awould pick that up and have that pilot immediately removed.


20 posted on 03/07/2012 5:36:53 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238
Those questions are neither hypothetical nor psychological. You seem to be too content with the idea that a simple kill switch is a solution to a jihadi pilot on a mission while you haven't even considered the other factors I asked in the questions.

A jihadi pilot isnt necessarily going to be some burnt out war vet going on a killing spree that a flight surgeon would easily pick up (even in those case they don't often pick up the tell tell sign). A jihad mission on the other hand would be a very well planned and calculated mission involving many well experienced, (possibly) high ranking and perfectly rational people. For all you know the flight surgeon himself would be in collusion with such a mission. Getting prior warning signal will be extremely difficult. I seriously doubt US has an ability to tell in advance which Pakistani pilot has gone jihadi and would most likely rely on Pakistan to provide that information is time. The internal dynamics of Pakistani government and military is volatile and their communication channels with US is at best tenuous.

Unless you have actually considered scenarios, I don't see any situation in which a kill switch can possibly serve as a realistic option to neutralize a threat from a jihadi pilot. Its only loose techno-geek-talk thrown out there that doesn't carry any weight.

21 posted on 03/08/2012 7:32:59 AM PST by ravager
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To: U-238
Once a pakistani jihadi pilot is airborne over pakistani airspace and is set to take out some American HVT inside Pakistan or in the border region of Afghaistan-Pakistan.....#1 it will be extremely difficult to distinguish a routine mission from a jihadi mission unless given actual prior warning with ample time to react. There could be a number of reasons for a pilot to stray off course under normal circumstances. That is not necessarily a jihadi threat. Unless clear and specific warning comes from Pakistan, there is not too many options or reaction time available for the US to neutralize a Pakistani jet that is already overhead and about to launch its payload.
22 posted on 03/08/2012 7:52:12 AM PST by ravager
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To: ravager

Your ideas are better than mine.


23 posted on 03/08/2012 5:46:16 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238; ravager
Your ideas are better than mine

In this matter.
24 posted on 03/08/2012 5:57:34 PM PST by U-238
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