Skip to comments.Investigators now in hunt for forger
Posted on 03/02/2012 10:01:11 PM PST by Smokeyblue
Members of the Cold Case Posse in Maricopa County, Ariz., whose report to Sheriff Joe Arpaio yesterday confirmed there is probable cause to believe Barack Obamas much-ballyhooed birth certificate document is a forgery, have begun briefing members of the county law enforcement team who may be involved in hunting for those responsible.
At a news conference yesterday, Arpaio and the chief investigator for the specially appointed Cold Case Posse, Mike Zullo, confirmed that they had found evidence of forgery in the creation of the birth certificate image and fraud in the presentation of that piece of work as a real government document.
They also said they found Obamas Selective Service registration likely forged, and they said it appeared as though officials in Hawaii were covering up information about Obama. They also said it was not outside the realm of possibility that Obama might have been born overseas.
While he said that decision remained in the future, sources told WND today that the Cold Case Posse, a team of volunteers not being paid by taxpayers, were briefing sheriffs office investigators on the status of evidence, so that they might be able to participate in the future as those responsible for the fraud and forgery uncovered already might be pursued.
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aB nearly drank himself to death by the age of 25. Not just your normal college drinking, but hard core drinking. Read his book.
He was overweight, he was under a ton of stress, and he was not sleeping—all based on published reports.
This guy was a walking heart attack or stroke.
If you look at the facts, it is more surprising that he hadn’t had a heart attack before now.
Okay, now I understand.
I thought I read that he entrusted the data to the late Leiutenant Quarles Harris, Jr., 578-11-2856, who sadly lost custody thereof by reason of being rubbed out?
Why doesn’t it make sense? All kinds of jobs are outsourced. What better way than to outsource a forgery job? It makes PERFECT sense. I don’t understand why you think it doesn’t make sense!
;) You just described half my college friends. Last I checked they’re all alive and older than AB.
Time to get donations and PUT UP A REWARD FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO THE PERSON WHO COMMITTED THE FORGERY.
According to the presentation, they requested 10 consecutive years of INS records, and that was the only week missing in the batch of records.
Well, no “birfers” have suggested the records were deleted in the 50’s or 60’s, but go ahead and joust at that straw man you’ve created.
I’m placing odds on the presented COLB’s serial number as a leading indicator of questionable authenticity. The one digits had distinctly different serifs regardless of the varying scan characteristics.
If you understood a little about the culture of Hawaii, you would see how lame your remark is.
a document with different dpi’s on different signatures is obviously going to have problems. fortunately, state media has inoculated the public with a heavy negative bias to the topic.
Ten years is 520 weeks. One week out of 520 is 0.192307692%.
The obvious questions are, (1) is it true? (2) is there an explanation? (3) who had access?
Of course, even if a video exists of a dude tampering and removing, that still doesn't begin to prove the case. It would just be a tool to convince a judge to dig in further.
We would need the rest of the story ... the actual document(s) on file with the State of Hawaii, etc. E.g., while a forensic examination of the WH BC PDF is pointless, an examination of the original paper record at the HDoH might turn up something interesting.
The definition of lame is to go after a PDF secondary source when there is a primary, authoritative source available.
You've just trashed that primary source. Now why not educate us about it? Tell us why a Hawaii BC is less reliable than, say, a Washington State BC? (and no need to be respectful in the telling, LOL!)
Yes, it’s not proof, but a very suspicious lead that bears further investigation. Try to dig up any documentation on this guy, and you’ll run into a lot of these suspicious leads, but good luck trying to get anywhere beyond that. What would be needed, is someone with the authority to mount a real investigation that matches the scope of the potential record tampering that may have taken place, and that would have to be at the Federal level.
God bless Sheriff Joe for what he’s trying to do, but he simply doesn’t have enough authority to ferret out the truth if there are Federal employees and officials complicit in records tampering of this nature. The best he can hope to do is uncover clues which make a case that there is an appearance of wrongdoing, and hope that someone who does have that authority will pick up the ball and run with it. I don’t think that will ever happen under this administration, and probably not even under a Republican one.
“while a forensic examination of the WH BC PDF is pointless, an examination of the original paper record at the HDoH might turn up something interesting.”
Yes, a forensic examination of a PDF can’t ever prove that the original was not forged, but they can demonstrate that the PDF is not consistent with an unaltered scan of an original, which is basically the case they’ve laid out. They could also possibly prove that the original is a forgery based on indisputable flaws in a faithful reproduction, just like Buckhead proved that the orignal Rathergate document must have been a forgery, without ever examining the original. To my knowledge, the HDoH hasn’t allowed any indepedant examination of the original document, and it doesn’t seem like they intend to, short of a court order. So we’re left at the mercy of our officials who don’t seem concerned with doing what needs to be done to ascertain the truth of the matter, one way or the other.
The Quarles Harris story is likely just a red herring. He was involved in a credit card fraud ring, and was cooperating with investigators, telling them that he had an accomplice in the State Dept who was helping him by providing info from passport records for the identity thefts. The only connection I’ve found between him and Brennan is that the Washington Times mentioned the article that they did about Brennan in the news story about Harris, without providing any direct link between the two or the two investigations.
It was misleading, because they said Harris was a “key witness” in a State Department investigation, then they mentioned the Brennan investigation. Harris was a witness in a different investigation, though, as far as I have been able to determine.
Hawaii doesn’t answer questions it doesn’t want to answer, and it doesn’t show documents it doesn’t want to. Even if the law requires.
IOW, they are examining the document because it’s all they can do. And that document shows there’s some serious doo-doo going on. Even the reporters there understood that if fraud happened through a forged document, Obama just about had to be part of that fraud because he just about had to know the document was forged even if he didn’t forge it himself.
See, there are 2 issues - one is whether Obama is eligible to be POTUS, and the other is whether crimes were committed. A LE body can’t determine the first, but it is their duty to determine the second. They were faithful to that duty. Now that it seems probable that crimes were committed, the question is what we’re gonna do about it.
If we’re Judge Michael Malihi it doesn’t matter what evidence we do or don’t have, or what fraud has been perpetrated by Obama; he’ll declare him eligible based on judge’s knowledge alone. If all the states are the same, and/or if the voters would vote for somebody who defrauded them and/or refuses to document their eligibility, then we deserve what we get and it ain’t gonna be pretty.
Do you have links for some of those published reports? I’ve been trying to validate some of the claims that have been made about him in the last 2 days and haven’t had much luck.
You know, it’s funny about the “overweight” comment. Somebody else had said it was obvious that he had been having heart problems because he changed his diet and exercise and lost so much weight lately.
In his altered book ending he said he sleeps well at night.
Lots of statements in the last 2 days that conflict with previous statements.
The first article which Drudge linked to claimed that Breitbart had been having heart problems, based on what an anonymous friend had said, but the same article had his own father-in-law saying he knew of no cardiac problems. Now there are claims that he was hospitalized a year ago and a month ago with heart problems, as well as moving his office to be closer to home because he was short of breath once - all stuff that would be highly unlikely if his own father-in-law was unaware of any cardiac problems.
So there are wildly conflicting claims out there and as far as I’ve been able to see, none of the claims about a history of heart problems have been supported by statements that pre-dated March 1, 2012. So if you’ve got some of these published statements I really want to see them.
The murder of Quarles Harris is most likely unrelated but John O. Brennan and associates cauterizing” Obama passport file is (in my opinion) not a red herring.
The Power of Two:
As in the Ken Starr investigation, currently there is a complete polarization of “friendly” (beneficiaries) on each side of this. Even though everyone absolutely knew Clinton broke the law, together with “hostile” witnesses diminishing acts of fact.
As in, “The Brotherhood of the Bell”, for progress to be made, there must be another second corroborating independent exposure team (2 “Sheriffs” i.e law sanctioned body) to sway the tide. Preferably another second totally independent “Sheriff” (sanctioning law enforcement body)with findings. Followed by 2-3-4-5- etc., For it is in the power of 2, then 3, then 4....
I don’t think Sheriff Joe has to look far. Anyone who covered up for zero now has a position or job in the white hut.
I’m listening to C2C right now. Hence my next thought:
Mr Breitbart now has the power to guide Sheriff Joe to the evidence he now needs.
Prayer changes things.
Pray for our Country.