Posted on 03/02/2012 10:01:11 PM PST by Smokeyblue
Sorry man, but I need at least SOME evidence before I will believe a conspiracy theory, not just wishful thinking. Nobody has offered a shred of evidence that Harris was connected in any meaningful way to Obama or Brennan. All we know for sure is that he was running a credit card scam, apparently with help from someone in the State department. We already know that Brennan accessed the passport files himself, he didn’t need any help from street criminal Harris to do that.
The only reason to try and conflate the two stories, is to make the superficial appearance that Harris may have been killed because he knew something about the Brennan case. That’s what the Washington Times did. However, since there is no evidence of that, once birthers started repeating that story, they were made to look like fools. In other words, the Washington Times successfully “punked” the birthers, whether it was intentional or unintentional. We shouldn’t be perpetuating our own embarassment now that it is plain to see what happened.
You’ve just trashed that primary source. Now why not educate us about it? Tell us why a Hawaii BC is less reliable than, say, a Washington State BC? (and no need to be respectful in the telling, LOL!)
For one thing they registered foreign born birth’s as Hawaiian. The cover-up in HI has more to dod with systematic immigration/citizenship fraud perpetrated by HI officials.
You’re confusing FR with a court of law.
Exactly. The Harris saga is an example of a lie attaining low earth orbit before the truth can get his pants on.
Accidentally or on purpose, the Washington Times launched the story by abbreviating Harris's misspelled, comical first name, making it look like a military or police title, while also mentioning their earlier story about improper access to the passport records of Hillary Clinton, Obama, and McCain. Thus, they promoted Harris far beyond his station in life, which was that of small-time identity thief.
Harris had been busted by the DC Police after having been found in possession of 21 credit cards not his own and printouts of eight passport applications, four of which had names found among the phony credit cards. Harris told the police he was working with an accomplice employed at State and another with the US Postal Service. He agreed to help roll up the conspiracy. He was rubbed out before that could happen.
“a lie attaining low earth orbit”... I like that, it’s a good description of how fast a story can take hold in the internet age. By the time the first sensible person has heard it and voiced a reasonable objection, it’s already gone global.
If I were in President Obama's place and knew that I had nothing to do with any tampering of my long form birth certificate, I would be the first person to offer to help the Arizona sheriff in any way I could.
But if the President of the United States, Obama, refuses to help and plays hardball, then I can only conclude that President Obama is hiding something.
For instance, the Selective Service application form: Obama's signature looks nothing like his signature today.
So Obama could help the Arizona sheriff by voluntarily coming forward and swearing under oath something like this: "Yes, that is my signature from 1980, although my signature seems to have dramatically changed over the years."
But, again, if the President of the United States plays hardball with the Arizona investigation, then I can only conclude that the President of the United States is indeed hiding something.
See #69.
The reasoning is that the forgery was presented nationwide, so some Maricopa county citizens were deceived and defrauded by the act, no matter where the forgery occurred.
No, I’m just not confusing FR with some forum where one can post nonsense without expecting to have it smacked down.
Just curious - let’s assume there is a forger - some mid level person with some computer/graphics skills.
Let’s also assume that Arpio’s posse is correct in their assumptions (that the crime of forgery occurred), and the posse is closing in on being able to identify the forger.
Given those assumptions - and the ramifications of exposure of this whole plot, if true.
Then what is the life expectancy of the forger?
What is the best way for this mid-level foot soldier to survive?
My take is that if this is true life expectancy is measured in days, and the only way to survive is to come clean in a very public way, ASAP.
The only alternative is to hope the truth stays hidden.
(Judith L Corely, please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
I think they have to look no further then the Perkins Coie attorney that brought the paper copy back from Hawaii. I think that the first person to chat with is Judith L Corely.
Her contact info is posted on the WH website in the Letter to Hawaii, which is part of the April 27 LFCOLB story.
Good luck Judith...
May we all be Breitbarted.
Nonsense? And you use the handle boogieman?
Yes, nonsense. That is what I call trotting out a long-debunked story that only serves to divert attention from the actual issues concerned. If I see someone post that, and I can correct the misinformation, I will. I expect other FReepers to do me the same favor if I make that error too.
What’s my handle have to do with anything?
True, and this will happen eventually. There is only one thing that is absolutely certain in the Birther Debate. The PDF file that is even now being displayed on the White House website is a fraudulent non-document, because softward cyberspace creations are not tangible instruments.
Easy. The document is being used to establish that Obama is eligible to run for President in Arizona. It is therefore creating victims of every Arizona citizen.
Actually, a cyberspace instrument could be made far more secure than a physical piece of paper with a rubber stamp and a raised seal, not to mention a scan of the same converted to a PDF.
Birth certificate registrars should scan all their documents at high resolution and put them on an HTTPS web server. Then, if someone needs their birth certificate to get a passport or get on a presidential ballot, they could ask the registrar to create a URL to their BC. This they could give to the State department or post on whitehouse.gov. Because of HTTPS, anyone viewing the BC via the URL would be assured the document they are examining on their monitor is really what's on file with the registrar.
HTTPS eliminates the man in the middle
. In this case, the man in the middle is Obama and his minions, who had the opportunity to do who knows what to the document between the time it left Hawaii and the time the WH showed it off to the world.
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