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Saving desert tortoises is a costly hurdle for solar projects
Los Angeles Times ^ | March , 2012 | By Julie Cart

Posted on 03/03/2012 8:40:57 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Stubborn does not come close to describing the desert tortoise, a species that did its evolving more than 220 million years ago and has since remained resolutely prehistoric.

At the $2.2-billion BrightSource Energy solar farm in the Ivanpah Valley, the tortoise brought construction to a standstill for three months when excavation work found far more animals than biologists expected.

BrightSource has spent $56 million so far to protect and relocate the tortoises, but even at that price, the work has met with unforeseen calamity: Animals crushed under vehicle tires, army ants attacking hatchlings in a makeshift nursery and one small tortoise carried off to an eagle nest, its embedded microchip pinging faintly as it receded.

Costly conservation efforts by state and federal agencies and solar companies have created a mishmash of strategies that one scientist says amounts to a "grand science experiment," said Jeff Lovich, who studies the impact of renewable energy projects on desert tortoises for the U.S. Geological Survey.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: brightsource; failure; ivanpah; obamanomics; porkulus; solar; solyndra; tortoise

1 posted on 03/03/2012 8:41:02 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“one small tortoise carried off to an eagle nest, its embedded microchip pinging faintly as it receded. “

Funniest. Line. Ever.


2 posted on 03/03/2012 8:43:48 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing here that an additional $56B of taxpayer money can’t resolve.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 8:45:31 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow....green whacks verses animal rights whacks

Liberals on the horns of a dilemma.... Who wins ?


4 posted on 03/03/2012 8:48:38 AM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I may not have a solution, but I do have a recipe.

/johnny

5 posted on 03/03/2012 8:49:44 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Popman
Who wins ?

They both will win. The taxpayer will lose.

6 posted on 03/03/2012 8:50:27 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Related thread, article

Where’s the EPA in the Mojave Desert? Heck, where are the environmentalists?

...Interesting. No EPA interference. The Enviro crowd rolls over. The project has all of the things which in normal circumstances (i.e. if it was a petro-chemical project) would have it tied up for years both in red tape and court cases....

This solar company was given over 3000 acres of public land.

7 posted on 03/03/2012 8:58:04 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Which is crazier - worrying about some tortoises to the extent of shutting down an energy project or building a solar farm? I think the solar farm wins for insanity: 1) the tortoises were minding their own business, 2) solar farms are an extension of the climate change hoax, and 3) solar farms are not cost effective. Somebody in this country going to get a grip and end all this high-dollar bs?


8 posted on 03/03/2012 9:03:59 AM PST by abclily
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another leftist BS story. $56,000,000 to protect the desert tortoise. I bet the person responsible for paying this got his training from working on the government climate grant program. If there were 5 desert toroises living on the land their using I’ll eat my hat. Two 15 year old kids could have gatherned everyone up in a couple of days and move them out to new territory. Ever seen how big the desert is.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 9:08:39 AM PST by spawn44
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To: JRandomFreeper
2 lbs. desert tortise meat (microchips removed), 3/8" cubes, floured.
1 lbs. mirepoix.
1/2 lb mushrooms sliced.
1 cup of tomato concasse.
1/2 bottle burgundy.
2 cloves garlic.
Thyme, parsley, sage, pepper and salt.
2 Tbsp blond roux.
1 quart desert tortise stock (standard stock procedure).

In hot saute pan, brown meat and set aside. Saute mirepoix to a dark color, add mushrooms at the end to just color. Add concasse and chopped garlic. Reduce to sec. When garlic is slightly browned, deglaze with wine, reduce until almost sec add stock and stir in roux to make a gravy that can coat the back of a spoon. Season as required.

Remove to oven and braise for 1.5 hours.

Serve on warm polenta with a southwestern cactus salad.

/johnny

10 posted on 03/03/2012 9:10:20 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No logging because of spotted owls. No oil pipelines because of elk. Now, no solar power because of a desert tortoise. Anyone see a pattern?


11 posted on 03/03/2012 9:21:18 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I remember when Fur Fin and Feather powers realized that ravens were grabbing young tortoises then flying up to a sufficient elevation, dropping them on rocks to break open their shells.

FF&F solution, kill off the ravens. But the raven is one smart bird, they just left the area and watched. When FF&F stopped trying to kill them, the ravens returned and started all over again.

12 posted on 03/03/2012 9:35:00 AM PST by Sea Parrot (You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something. --Stephen Adam)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So...an endangered species that is so common that they’re ending up under truck tires, being hauled away to nests, and become buffet bars for red ants?

So what you’re really saying is that it’s not endangered at all, huh?


13 posted on 03/03/2012 9:38:55 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

Their lack of survival skills could be why they’re becoming endangered.


14 posted on 03/03/2012 9:55:41 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: patton
That's a haiku...

one tortoise carried
to eagle's nest, microchip
ping faintly recedes.

15 posted on 03/03/2012 9:58:55 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: patton

Hahaha, you can almost see the greenies gathered around the tracking console, mouths agape stunned horror!


16 posted on 03/03/2012 10:08:50 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Clever - I like it.

Look!
The neighbor’s dog!
Come to kill us all!
Look! Look! Look! Look!


17 posted on 03/03/2012 10:20:38 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: jmcenanly
Desert tortoises...
18 posted on 03/03/2012 10:21:13 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Reminds me of when they spent about a quarter mil rehabing a seal from an oil spill, and about a minute after “being returned to the wild”, Jaws ate it.


19 posted on 03/03/2012 10:23:08 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Harness sun’s power,
or save the desert’s flowers?
Turtle soup sounds good.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 10:24:26 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
BrightSource has spent $56 million so far to protect and relocate the tortoises, but even at that price, the work has met with unforeseen calamity: Animals crushed under vehicle tires, army ants attacking hatchlings in a makeshift nursery and one small tortoise carried off to an eagle nest, its embedded microchip pinging faintly as it receded.

Whoever wasted this money should simply be banished to live with the darned tasty things...

21 posted on 03/03/2012 10:24:36 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: patton

I lol’d at that too.


22 posted on 03/03/2012 10:24:52 AM PST by csvset
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To: patton

Heehee, I remember that :)

Then there was the “bear man” who thought he should live with the bears to protect them. Found out the hard way that nobody was protecting him from the bears. Nature is a harsh mistress.


23 posted on 03/03/2012 10:27:20 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

That a$$ needed to die.

But I felt sorry for his girlfriend.

Poor girl, probably had a low IQ.


24 posted on 03/03/2012 10:31:53 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: csvset

;)


25 posted on 03/03/2012 10:32:59 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The entire thing is goofy when we can end global warming overnight by bringing back aerosol spray cans. Remember when the left was claiming that hairspray was going to cause the next ice age?


26 posted on 03/03/2012 10:36:20 AM PST by anonsquared
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To: patton

Lol, that was almost a haiku too! We might need to start a satirical haiku ping list or something.


27 posted on 03/03/2012 10:50:56 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: anonsquared

Ha! But then, they thought the aerosols would destroy the Ozone layer and kill us all with cosmic radiation. Finally, they have figured out they need to stop making any concrete claims and are sticking with meaningless “climate change” so that we can’t call them out on their past statements every time they are wrong. Took them long enough.


28 posted on 03/03/2012 10:58:51 AM PST by Boogieman
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