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Richard Lugar: U.S. Senator Defends His Indiana Residency
Yahoo News ^ | February 29, 2012 | Joel Siegel

Posted on 03/03/2012 9:23:46 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

Tea Party groups in Indiana have made him their No. 1 target, saying the silver-hailed senator has strayed from Republican principles too many times.

They are backing state Treasurer Richard Mourdock, creating Lugar's first Republican primary challenge since he took office.

Another complication: Lugar's startling revelation that he sold his home in Indianapolis and bought one outside Washington shortly after winning his first election to the Senate three decades ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 112th; in2012; lugar; teaparty
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1 posted on 03/03/2012 9:23:50 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lugar was one of the first “republicans” to sign on with the Chicago climate exchange. He found a way to get paid for letting trees grow on his Lugar farms property. (Carbon sequestration)

http://www.geology.iupui.edu/Research/lugar.html


2 posted on 03/03/2012 9:27:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind; muawiyah; nodumbblonde; Mr. Lucky; indylindy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; ..

Richard Lugar is Barack Obama’s favorite Repubican U.S. Senator, as well. He was the first Republican to support Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court. He needs to be removed.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 9:29:35 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Norm Dicks has decided not to run for re-election, so now there are no more “dicks” in the House. If we turn “Dick” Lugar out of office, there will be one less “dick” in the Senate. These are good things!!!


4 posted on 03/03/2012 9:32:05 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lugar needs to be gone...he sooooooo 70s.


5 posted on 03/03/2012 9:33:36 AM PST by kjo (+)
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To: Clintonfatigued
silver-hailed senator

Started in the wire service. All the outlets are repeating the same. They don't even read their own stuff; they just pass it along through the party aligned service. English is dead.

6 posted on 03/03/2012 9:35:33 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lunar- what our founding fathers had in mind with part time citizen government..../s


7 posted on 03/03/2012 9:41:14 AM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Even if he were not a Rino, he’s been in the senate since 1976. Time to retire, go fishing with the grand kids.


8 posted on 03/03/2012 9:57:27 AM PST by Arthurio
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To: vette6387

Yes, but Fluke will be sad with all those Dicks gone.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 10:02:12 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Clintonfatigued

He’ll be primaried out of office in about 60 days.


10 posted on 03/03/2012 10:06:13 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: PhiloBedo

Then he can follow the Specter principle, and change party affiliation.


11 posted on 03/03/2012 10:19:24 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lugar has already gone negative. He must be getting scared!
We got the Establishment on the run, keep up the pressure!!!!


12 posted on 03/03/2012 10:24:37 AM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: org.whodat

“Yes, but Fluke will be sad with all those Dicks gone.”

Or was it a Fluke that the Dicks are leaving? And then there’s the matter of there being no more Snowe in the Senate either. All of it is good!


13 posted on 03/03/2012 10:28:43 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Yes, LOL


14 posted on 03/03/2012 10:30:10 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lugar (IN) & Hatch (UT) both have to go. We failed with McCain, lets not repeat this diaster.


15 posted on 03/03/2012 11:40:38 AM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t see where he defends his Indiana residency (or lack, thereof)


16 posted on 03/03/2012 12:48:45 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: stylin19a
State election board had a hearing and voted that politicians don't lose their legal residency just because they go to Washington DC to work.

It's always been that way.

People imagine they've reinvented residency as a reason to kick out a sitting politician on an almost predictable schedule.

It's like thieves ~ every one of them I ever caught thought he'd invented something new that no one else would notice.

The residency issue was settled centuries ago in England anyway.

17 posted on 03/03/2012 1:15:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

thanks...I’m not questioning the residency.(though, with surface info, it seems strange he can vote and claim residency from a residence he no longer owns)..
I was just commenting about the headline and the fact that it’s not sustained in the body of the article.


18 posted on 03/03/2012 1:26:49 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The real problem is that Hoosiers are not being represented. We have been told that Lugar’s job is not to represent Hoosiers but everyone. We are supporting Richard Mourdock!


19 posted on 03/03/2012 2:20:37 PM PST by Pat4ever
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To: Hoosier-Daddy; hoosiermama; willowsdale; Kimmers; ducttape45; dforest; nascarnation; TMA62; ...

If Right-To-Work can pass in Indiana, of all places, why can’t an establishment hack like Richard Lugar be unseated? I hope that Indiana Freepers make this race their #1 priority for May 2012.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 3:42:54 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I don’t even care about his residency issue. I will never vote for him no matter what BS Lugar, Obama’s best buddy, says.

He needs to go. He is also too old. The pasture is awaiting him.


21 posted on 03/03/2012 3:49:43 PM PST by dforest
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lugar has been a thorn in the side for conservatives for long enough; it’s time to send him packing.


22 posted on 03/03/2012 3:57:28 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Agreed, I am not voting for Lugar. He needs to be sent packing.


23 posted on 03/03/2012 5:34:05 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: Clintonfatigued

Dick Lugar does have a lot of positive feelings built up from his early years. He was brilliant as mayor of Indianapolis - came up with and was able to pass the “Unigov” plan which allowed the entire county to vote for mayor.

This kept Indianapolis under Republican mayors and it didn’t go the way of Cleveland, Detroit, etc. Obviously at 80 yrs old he needs to be retired. It’s kind of sad when a guy won’t just give it up when the time comes.


24 posted on 03/03/2012 6:04:56 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Clintonfatigued

*BUMP*


25 posted on 03/04/2012 12:35:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Clintonfatigued

Like I’ve posted several times here on FR: I voted for Lugar in the 1996 GOP POTUS Primary.

From what I’ve seen, he lost his bearings with that loss.

Time to retire Dick.


26 posted on 03/04/2012 7:33:02 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; randita; campaignPete R-CT; ...

It is high time that Senator Richard Lugar was given the heave ho by Indiana conservatives. He may have been “Richard Nixon’s favorite mayor,” but that was over 40 years ago, and in his 35+ years in the Senate he has become every liberal Democrat’s “favorite Republican Senator.” Lugar has heretofore avoided a primary challenge, but not this time, and conservatives brought a heavy gun: state Treasurer Richard Mourdock, who is a solid conservative who nonetheless knows how to play well with others (so he won’t lose in the general) and already has statewide ID.

Republicans will win a Senate majority this November, but it won’t serve us for much if moderates with Potomac Fever like Lugar hold important chairmanships. It’s time to send Lugar packing—I wanted to say “back to Indiana,” but since Lugar hasn’t lived there in 30 years, it will be a much shorter trip for him to Washington’s Virginia suburbs.


27 posted on 03/05/2012 2:31:33 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

One big reason Lugar wants to stay is that if he wins again, he’ll become Senate President Pro Tempore. If he loses, it goes to Orrin Hatch. If we take out both, it goes to Thad Cochran.


28 posted on 03/05/2012 3:07:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Lugar, then Hatch, then Cochran? And our prior president pro tem was Ted Stevens? Gee, our “conservative” Senators don’t exactly age well, do they? I see that Grassley comes next—at least someone there has stayed conservative after 30+ years in the Senate.


29 posted on 03/05/2012 3:36:41 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I saw Dick on tv touring the tornado devastation over the weekend.

He really looks, talks, and moves every bit of his 80 yrs of age.

WTF an 80 yr old guy is looking for another 6 yrs on the job is beyond me.


30 posted on 03/05/2012 3:41:06 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; randita

I don’t like Cochran, under the radar establishment Senator. I have more respect for Hatch.

But I fully support Thad for Pres Pro Tem in 2013!! And I hope Grassley holds the job in 2015.

Anyone but Lugar or an ancient Hawaiian Democrat.

And I sure hope that scum Leahy never has the honor of holding that position.


31 posted on 03/05/2012 3:44:51 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

Actually, Grassley has been in Congress longer than Lugar and Hatch (he’s a Watergate Baby, where he succeeded the colorful and elderly H.R. Gross, who was always railing against government spending and a thorn in the ass of the establishment — he’d be a superstar today if he was in Congress). At the time of his election in 1974, Grassley was the ONLY Republican to win a federal office from IA, with the Democrats having flushed out all of the old timers. At almost 79, Grassley is 4 years older than Gross was when he hung it up.

As for Cochran, he’s been in Congress even longer than the aforementioned 3, having first been elected in 1972 (and along with Trent Lott, the first two Republicans to survive reelection from MS since Reconstruction). If I’m not mistaken, only Bill Young of FL is the lone Republican to now have been in Congress longer than Cochran.


32 posted on 03/05/2012 4:03:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: nascarnation

I think when I woke up and realized Lugar was on the wrong side was back in the ‘90s when the Democrats and the RINO establishment were trying to foist Clintonite ultra-RINO William Weld on the country as Ambassador to Mexico. Weld had publicly declared war on Conservatives, but what he hadn’t counted on was the Chairman of the committee voting to approve his nomination, one Jesse Helms. Lugar was all happy to rubber stamp that abomination Weld until Helms let Weld have it (and Lugar, for that matter) and shot that down like an expert marksman. It was absolutely beautiful. I miss Senator Helms. :-(


33 posted on 03/05/2012 4:09:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Impy

Leahy might get it at some point in the 2020s. Alas, unless the VT GOP grows a pair and dumps his sorry ass, that Stalinist jackass will probably stay put until he goes belly-up. Ditto for Inouye.


34 posted on 03/05/2012 4:11:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Lugar did a marvelous thing for Indianapolis when he was mayor by somehow getting Unigov passed.

His Wash DC career doesn’t quite match up.


35 posted on 03/05/2012 4:14:20 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

Coolidge/Helms 2012!


36 posted on 03/05/2012 4:26:41 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: nascarnation

Unigov was 42 years ago. That’d be like a politician in 1970 running for reelection talking about what he did in 1928. Unfortunately, it may have only staved off an inevitable rodent takeover of Indianapolis. The current Mayor, Ballard, might end up the last Republican for a long time. I still can’t believe Indy has a Black Stalinist from the Satanist death cult representing it in Congress.


37 posted on 03/05/2012 4:28:42 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I guess you’re a “half empty” guy.

I see Unigov as keeping us from turning into Cleveland, Detroit, etc for about 40 yrs. That was a major accomplishment.

As far as Carson, the Republicans have districted all the “takers” into one geographic slot, and that keeps 3 or 4 other districts completely safe for Republicans. The downside is when you do that, you get the worst of the worst in the rep. but only one of them.


38 posted on 03/05/2012 4:35:45 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; nascarnation; Clintonfatigued

When a Democrat replaces Ballard (and it will happen sooner or later, given Marion County’s recent electoral history), Republicans might as well try to undo Unigov so that the Republican suburbs in Marion County can escape the liberal Democrat yoke.


39 posted on 03/05/2012 4:36:23 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

The Dems would never let that happen if they got control. All the property taxes come from the townships, right?


40 posted on 03/05/2012 4:42:17 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yes, Bill Young was first elected in 1970, and Cochran in 1972.

Of course, these are newcomers next to John Dingell, who has now served in the House for 175 years, and would have been serving for even longer had President Jackson been able to stop the Toledo War, and thus admit Michigan as a state, sooner. : )


41 posted on 03/05/2012 4:42:17 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: nascarnation

“The Dems would never let that happen if they got control. “


In that case Ballard should push for that now, even if it means that he won’t be reelected mayor. I’m sure that Governor Pence can find Ballard a good post in his administration.


42 posted on 03/05/2012 4:44:39 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: stylin19a

The only residency Lugar has is at the UN.

He has nothing to do with Indiana. I have e-mailed this SOB a few times on some of his lib positions. I always get snotty e-mails back.

Lugar is done.


43 posted on 03/05/2012 4:57:58 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest
Lugar is done.

Have you seen any polling that indicates that?

44 posted on 03/05/2012 5:01:42 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: dforest

Two of the worst Rinos — Lugar and Hatch. Both: OUT!


45 posted on 03/05/2012 5:03:11 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: dforest

The one poll I saw had Lugar leading 49/28 with a lot of undecideds.


46 posted on 03/05/2012 5:04:17 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Clintonfatigued
They are backing state Treasurer Richard Mourdock, creating Lugar's first Republican primary challenge since he took office.

THAT RIGHT THERE IF TRUE....IS PAST PATHETIC.

Rant off!!

47 posted on 03/05/2012 5:05:41 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: nascarnation

No, but Lugar is done. LOL Have you heard him lately? He sounds horrid and can hardly coherently communicate. Of course, he hasn’t been coherent for years, but it is worse.

It is awful.


48 posted on 03/05/2012 5:05:41 PM PST by dforest
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To: nascarnation; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy

“As far as Carson, the Republicans have districted all the “takers” into one geographic slot, and that keeps 3 or 4 other districts completely safe for Republicans. The downside is when you do that, you get the worst of the worst in the rep. but only one of them.”


While you are correct that the Republicans redrew the IN-07 a few months ago to keep it heavily Dem, and that surrounding districts are rather comfortably Republican, it is simply not the case that “the Republicans have districted all the “takers” into one geographic slot,” nor that the district “keeps 3 or 4 other districts completely safe for Republicans.”

First of all, the IN-07 was drawn so as to excise the most Republican Marion County suburbs, thus creating hyper-Republican suburban districts, back in 2002, by the Democrats, who had full control of the process. I remember watching the vote by one of the IN houses on C-SPAN, with Republicans complaining about the partisan nature of the Democrat gerrymandering (and it was indeed quite a gerrymander outside of Indianapolis). This was not a Republican scheme to protect Republican congressmen.

Second, while Republicans did control the 2012 redistricting process, and drew a similar IN-07 as before (merely expanding it a bit to meet the equal population requirement), the GOP did not really “go for the jugular” so as to draw *completely safe* districts to its north, south, east and west. Had the GOP really wanted to achieve that, the legislature should have combined the most heavily RAT parts of Indianapolis with the hyper-Democrat city of Bloomington in Monroe County to its southwest, connected by a thin strip of turf in eastern Morgan County. This would have allowed the GOP to draw safe GOP seats not only in IN-04, IN-05 and IN-06 (the latter of which was not safely GOP under the prior redistricting), but also in current battlegrounds IN-08 and IN-09.

Similarly, the GOP redrew the IN-02 to make it comfortably GOP, but not truly safe GOP; had it drawn a hyper-Democrat IN-01 that hugged Lake Michigan and then squirrelled into South Bend, it would have then been able to draw completely safe IN-02.

I understand what IN Republicans did; they took the high road by drawing a map for what should be a 7-2 GOP delegation without resorting to Indiana-Democrat-style gerrymandering. But if the Dems somehow win back the IN-02, IN-08 or IN-09 during the decade, all of that “high road” stuff won’t mean bupkus. Remember, keeping the RATs from winning those CDs not only saves a GOP vote in the House, it also prevents the Democrats from electing a “moderate” who can eventually become a Senate or gubernatorial candidate—with only two hyper-Democrat CDs in NW IN and in Indy/Bloomington, the Dems would send two moonbats to Congress who could never be elected statewide.


49 posted on 03/05/2012 5:09:24 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: nascarnation

Well, I’m not always Mr. Negative... :-P

Not to say UniGov wasn’t an important achievement for Indianapolis in preventing a deterioration (I’d say it wouldn’t have become a Cleveland or Detroit, but more like Columbus, Ohio... a formerly GOP city which has fallen to the dark side), but that Lugar’s singular positive achievement is 42 years old. A term or two in the Senate should’ve seen him retire back in 1988 for a desultory Cabinet position under GHW Bush and permanent retirement afterwards.

I’d have probably tried to get creative enough to find a way to dump enough Republicans into the Carson seat to sack him. The Dems made Dan Burton’s seat so hyper-GOP that he could’ve afforded to shed more than a few. IN could produce an 8R-1D delegation under such circumstances.


50 posted on 03/05/2012 5:09:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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