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Sell an Irish coffee, go to prison?
Federal Review ^ | 03/03/12

Posted on 03/03/2012 4:25:07 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

The New York State Senate has passed a law making the sale of caffeinated alcoholic beverages a felony.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; US: New York
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1 posted on 03/03/2012 4:25:10 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

NYS has been reading too many UK papers to come up with a stupid law like that.


2 posted on 03/03/2012 4:27:14 PM PST by SkyDancer ("No Matter How The People Vote There Will Always Be A Federal Judge To Over Turn It")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

OK. Sell a coffee and a shot of Irish whiskey separately, and let the customer pour the shot into the coffee himself.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 4:28:04 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Jackasses passing law to address the already illegal sale of caffeinated cocktails to minors.


4 posted on 03/03/2012 4:30:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Glad I left that NYC hell-hole 21yrs ago. Dinkins and Koch had turned it into a sewer; Rudy fixed it, but I was long-gone by then.


5 posted on 03/03/2012 4:30:53 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: SkyDancer
I just had to check on it. It looks like this incident is what prompted it.
6 posted on 03/03/2012 4:32:36 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
More contraband for people to smuggle in and sell at a profit. Lovely.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

"Atlas Shrugged," by Ayn Rand


7 posted on 03/03/2012 4:33:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: PapaBear3625

With that plan you know you get your full shot. :)


8 posted on 03/03/2012 4:33:05 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Irish coffee with a cigarette and it’s the death penalty.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 4:35:30 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Those conservative bible belters are at it again limiting people’s rights. < /sarc >


10 posted on 03/03/2012 4:35:51 PM PST by a fool in paradise (If Obama brings troops home from Japan and Germany he can claim he won WWII finally as well as Iraq.)
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To: Mark

LOL:)


11 posted on 03/03/2012 4:38:05 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So, is Kahlua outlawed?

How about Rum and cola?


12 posted on 03/03/2012 4:39:55 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: PapaBear3625

One instance and they have a law? What are they going to do on St. Paddy’s Day? They should have clarified it by specifying coffee was excluded. Besides, how can underage kids buy alcohol drinks?


13 posted on 03/03/2012 4:39:55 PM PST by SkyDancer ("No Matter How The People Vote There Will Always Be A Federal Judge To Over Turn It")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just think, rum and coke could land you in prison.


14 posted on 03/03/2012 4:39:55 PM PST by lmsii
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Well, well, well.

Jumping Hesus on Pogo Stick!

A@@wipe Bloomers has now stuck his nose into my ole lady’s coffee!!

Well friends, my ole lady has just declared herself a FELON without apologies to anyone!

I’ve lived with the girl for years. I’ll let some other HERO and really BRAVE soul go tell her, her Irish Coffee is off limits.

May God have mercy on their pathetic souls.

(Dear BureauKaRAT, let me introduce you to a biker b*tch, straight razor tottin woman, hates jokes that she don’t like, and just don’t “eff” with the girl’s coffee. You are in for a really BAD day.)


15 posted on 03/03/2012 4:42:01 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to muzslimes, my handle is a hate crime.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

FALSE

The NYC Senate passed the bill. It still has to go to the assembly.

Not a law.


16 posted on 03/03/2012 4:42:01 PM PST by onona (Dicky Betts is one ramblin man !)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

'Atlas Shrugged'

17 posted on 03/03/2012 4:44:03 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: onona

You’re technically correct. The State Senate passed a bill. It has to go to the (liberal) state assembly and the (liberal) NYS governor before it becomes a law.

I’m sure the (liberal) assembly and (liberal) governor will stop it dead in its tracks.

</sarc


18 posted on 03/03/2012 4:49:33 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: SkyDancer

Rum and coke


19 posted on 03/03/2012 4:58:41 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: PapaBear3625; Tigerized

No way. That’s a crime against a true Irish coffee.

With New York’s Irish heritage, I hope there is a backlash against Nanny Bloomberg before March 17th.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 5:01:07 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

21 posted on 03/03/2012 5:04:19 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: carriage_hill
Glad I left that NYC hell-hole 21yrs ago. Dinkins and Koch had turned it into a sewer; Rudy fixed it, but I was long-gone by then.

Ditto. It will be 30 years for me in October.

22 posted on 03/03/2012 5:08:09 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Mark

Excellent!


23 posted on 03/03/2012 5:11:34 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The actual text of the bill:

"CAFFEINATED OR STIMULANT-ENHANCED ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE" MEANS AND INCLUDES A BEER OR WINE PRODUCT THAT CONTAINS MORE THAN SIX PER CENTUM ALCOHOL BY VOLUME AND AN UNSAFE FOOD ADDITIVE. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SUBDIVISION, "UNSAFE FOOD ADDITIVE" SHALL HAVE THE SAME MEANING AS PROVIDED IN THE FEDERAL FOOD, DRUG, AND COSMETIC ACT (21 U.S.C. S 348) AND SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO, CAFFEINE OR OTHER STIMULANTS DIRECTLY ADDED TO AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE AS A SEPARATE INGREDIENT WITHOUT APPROVAL BY FEDERAL REGULATION OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AS GENERALLY RECOGNIZED AS SAFE.

24 posted on 03/03/2012 5:39:00 PM PST by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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To: carriage_hill

The problem is that the bad guys left NY along with some you good guys and they’ve managed to infect the rest of the country. We, here in California, managed to “land” Babs Boxer (good old Bronx Babs)!


25 posted on 03/03/2012 5:46:21 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

But Irish coffee is the only food with all four essential nutrients: alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat!


26 posted on 03/03/2012 5:55:00 PM PST by firebrand (I forget who said that first)
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To: RagingBull

So I guess Irish Coffee is still okay since the caffeine isn’t a directly added separate ingredient.


27 posted on 03/03/2012 6:07:04 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

even with a liquor license?


28 posted on 03/03/2012 6:12:54 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So, if I am on an airplane over NY having coffee with a shot of Tia Maria added to the coffee, I am indulging in a felony action.

So, if the above is a felony that I have committed and am convicted of, then I can no longer possess or own a firearm. I think this is a reason for so many felony crime actions being legislated into state criminal law. It is a way to bypass the 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights and to enact gun control in the United States.

So, if this is a felony that I am accused of, what will be the bond amount be that I will have to post in order to not spend the next six months in jail awaiting trial for this awful criminal offense. The Constitution does provide for a “speedy” trial, thank God...

So, if this is a criminal felony offense, will the Public Defender defend me against this charge while I spend the six months in jail and then go to trial.

So, if this is a criminal felony offense, what will I be charged by a criminal defense attorney to defend me and get it reduced to a misdemeanor, since it is my first criminal offense committed while flying into a NY state airport, which will still leave me with a criminal record. Will this be comparable to a DUI charge? Will this nefarious criminal charge impair my credit score as well as cause a problem looking for employment? Who will want to hire someone who consumed a cup of coffee with a shot of Tia Maria while flying into

So, if this is a criminal felony offense, will the Marshall on the airplane put me in handcuffs? Will the pilot then land the plane ASAP and have me escorted off the plane into the local arms of the law?

So, if under the circumstances, I have a problem with being detained by the Marshall on the plane, will the other passengers see this as a TERRORIST action and assist the flight attendant and the Marshall to subdue me and will a SWAT team be called to the airport that the pilot is now heading for?

So, since I am 79 years old, I won’t be here much longer and won’t have to endure the CRAP that you younger folks are going to have to live with.... especially, if the BEPLN/BHO is reelected and the DEMORATS regain the House and keep the Senate. Your ass is MUD.... stocking up on guns and ammunition is not going to save you... what happened to David Karesh in Waco, TX? How are you going to go to combat with a SWAT team?

So, have as good a day as you can. Love your spouse and kids, your parents and related family and pet your pets... they are family too. Enjoy it while it is here before the HOPE & CHANGE of the BEPLN/BHO takes it all away. Adios, amigo...


29 posted on 03/03/2012 6:24:17 PM PST by LaMudBug
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Something is wrong here.

When I was a kid, I watched enough westerns on TV to know that Four Loko was something to be avoided.


30 posted on 03/03/2012 7:08:13 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: LaMudBug

Love your comment.


31 posted on 03/03/2012 7:43:11 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: funfan

Coffee stout.
Is NYS also going after the homebrewers?


32 posted on 03/03/2012 9:28:18 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: bmwcyle

I had a delicious Sam Adams Black & Brew Coffee Stout about a month ago!


33 posted on 03/03/2012 9:50:18 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Kaluah was nice while it lasted.
34 posted on 03/03/2012 10:11:33 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.

Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing.

All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives.

They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.

We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

Power is not a means; it is an end.

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

The object of persecution is persecution.

The object of torture is torture.

The object of power is power”.

-George Orwell, 1984, Part Three, Chapter III, page 263

35 posted on 03/04/2012 2:47:11 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (God is dead - William Hamilton....William Hamilton is dead - God)
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To: Mark
Irish coffee with a cigarette and it’s the death penalty.Irish coffee with a cigarette and it’s the death penalty.

LOL

36 posted on 03/04/2012 2:59:41 AM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Pardon my ignorance, but isn’t it already illegal for minors to have alcohol? Why the need for another law?


37 posted on 03/04/2012 3:26:59 AM PST by MissouriConservative (Voting "None of the Above" in 2012.)
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To: vette6387

She couldn’t run a successful brassiere store in the Bronx! How did she a Fine-swine get there in Cal?


38 posted on 03/04/2012 3:31:52 AM PST by carriage_hill
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To: PapaBear3625

You might be right about the incident forming the basis for the bill but as usual the real issue is not addressed. From the article:

“After drinking with friends Feb. 18, Michael Truluck, 13, from Parkville, Md., was riding home with his stepfather when he opened his car door to vomit. He fell out of the vehicle and was hit by oncoming traffic.”

I would outlaw falling out of a vehicle while puking into traffic. Sheesh!


39 posted on 03/04/2012 4:08:58 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: MissouriConservative

This law criminalizes the sale to anyone.


40 posted on 03/04/2012 5:31:31 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: MissouriConservative

This law criminalizes the sale to anyone.


41 posted on 03/04/2012 5:31:35 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Perfect.


42 posted on 03/04/2012 5:41:12 AM PST by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“I’ve lived with the girl for years. I’ll let some other HERO and really BRAVE soul go tell her, her Irish Coffee is off limits.”

Can I have the video rights to that scene? Pleeeze!

Sounds just slightly less “reactive” than her reaction to being told she must wear a burqua.

;-)


43 posted on 03/04/2012 2:53:47 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Fred Hayek

“Coffee stout.
Is NYS also going after the homebrewers?”

How can you jest about such a serious situation???

Don’t you know nearly all handloaders are also home brewers? I’ll bet you don’t even know those handloaders sometimes brew up and consume their caffeine beverages black. BLACK, I say!

Moreover, they are known to not dilute their whiskey, scotch or beer, either.

Those knuckle walking Fly-over Country inhabitants then drink both beverages and that is when the mixing occurs. They are sneaky, but Big Government IS onto then. Trust your nice GovernmentPerson, ‘cause they are making the world safe for you.

And for your chilrun, too. Just ask them.


44 posted on 03/04/2012 3:03:20 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: USNBandit

Looks like distilled liquors do not count.


45 posted on 03/04/2012 5:18:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They’re going to have to lock up haf the town on St. Patrick’s Day..


46 posted on 03/05/2012 12:45:24 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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