Posted on 03/04/2012 2:31:23 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
American Research Group: CHECK IT OUT
Newt's numbers have moved up 4 points the same as Mitt's. But the news is that Romney is surging.
Two new polls released Sunday show Mitt Romney surging in Tennessee, closing the gap behind rival Rick Santorum.
Santorum has 34 percent support to Romney's 30 percent among likely GOP voters in the state, according to the latest survey from conservative polling outlet Rasmussen Reports. But Santorum's edge is within the poll's four-point margin of error.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich follows with 18.
Well, I’m not for Romney, but it would be nice if Santorum got knocked out by losing Ohio and Tennessee. This needs to get down to Newt and Romney.
I’m not sure this is a wise scenario.
Yes it does!
Go Newt Go!!!!!
>> “This needs to get down to Newt and Romney.” <<
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True, but it isn’t going to happen. Santorum is in it for himself, not the good of the country.
Santorum has a problem with delegate slates in Ohio. The MSM is running headlines to give the impression that Newt’s win in GA is “must win” and that he’s practically begging for votes while in fact he has a commanding lead. I believe all these national headlines about Newt and the GA vote are meant to keep someone in Ohio or Tennessee, etc from voting for Newt over Santorum. Then when Mitt “amazingly” does better than expected, it hurts Santorum’s non-Romney status (but who took votes from Newt) and the end result is the MSM and the Left help their preferred candidate, Mitt Romney — the moderate from Mass.
I understand your concern, but Romney has yet to get over around 38% in any decent sized state.
Willard the liberal will not win any Southern state.
Sorry...the numbers just aren’t there for Newt. After Super Tuesday he will have won 2 of 23 states.
“True, but it isn’t going to happen. Santorum is in it for himself, not the good of the country.”
Oh tosh! Stop spouting such nonsense. I am primarily a Newt supporter, but such statements about Santorum are uncalled for. Besides, I have heard the same things said about Newt. IN BOTH CASES THEY ARE WRONG.
It is deeply disturbing to see Gingrich and Santorum supporters fighting. ROMNEY IS THE ENEMY.
What is BEST for the country, would be for Newt and Rick to unite into a single team (I’m not putting one before the other). I think those two combined would be a winning ticket.
Romney is a road to disaster....even IF he wins.
While I put Newt ahead of Rick....and could strongly back either in the General Election (especially if the other was the VP partner). I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY.
Santorum needs to go! Get out, give the only professional in this race a clear shot to take out Romney.
Santorum will ruin us, and has no chance of winning against Obama.
I was recently laid up with double pneumonia. It was nasty stuff, I missed 3 weeks of work and am still regaining my strength. During the early part of it when I was really feeling bad I was checking news sites like FR, Drudge, Fox News for stories about the election to and fro. I read some quote from Sheldon Adelson, this was at the time where he said he might spend a $100 million supporting Newt, that seemed to indicate the reason he was doing it was to thwart the Santorum bid. Presumably in support of Romney by way of restraining Santorum by backing Gingrich.
This didn’t make a lot of sense to me and I tried to research it but I was weak and tired and soon I was back to sleep in the recliner. I haven’t forgotten it, though, and it will be interesting to see how long Newt hangs on if he doesn’t catch fire soon and move up to be a real contender. Santorum is already telling Newt to get out.
/End ravings of an old sick guy :)
I thought the people of Tennessee were smarter than that..
Only Newt has those peoples values of freedom in mind..
Yeah, I am astounded that Santorum is ahead in TN and OK.
I think it is I who should be sympathizing with you. Rest easy, my friend.
[ Santorum needs to go! Get out, give the only professional in this race a clear shot to take out Romney. Santorum will ruin us, and has no chance of winning against Obama. ]
Exactly.. right...
Santo does not have best the wishes for America at heart..
What he has the best wishes for is Santo..
“This needs to get down to Newt and Romney.”
From your lips to God’s ears.
** President Newt Gingrich-”Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.”
“Santorum will ruin us, and has no chance of winning against Obama.”
AND THAT is reality.
Take a pill, huh!
Its so obvious that all Santorum is doing is trying to imporve his own fortunes. He hasn’t a clue what is ailing the country, nor what to do about it. He’s always been a high tax, big government, pro union mush head.
Rick is in freefall and supporters glum on all blogs.
After this week Newt will have 75 delegates just out of Georgia, is that correct? And Newt numbers are no longer stagnant but up in other states, following that great performance on Huckabee’s Forum.
Rick Perry expects a Texas sweep for Newt and we’re talking contested convention as a VERY strong possibility!!
SPEECHES will be in vogue again at convention, and the two problem definers, Santorum and Romney, will fall again to the only problem solver of the three, Newt Gingrich.
Newt wins Georgia. Gets substantial numbers of delegates in Ohio/Tennessee/Oklahoma/Kansas. Wins Alabama and Mississippi.
Newt is surging! Stay positive!
Additionally it includes Independents and Democrats in small numbers who claim they are certain to vote in the GOP primary.
I would not be surprised to see Romney win this one narrowly with Gingrich and Santorum fighting for second.
In the midst of a surge or a collapse things move very rapidly and pollsters have a hard time keeping up.
Dems are going to vote for Romney in droves
Of course you’re right, IF those delegates will move to Newt. I think it may take Super Tuesday to show off Newt’s delegate count - that it looks pretty good for a guy who gave the field in several states to Buck Rogers Santorum.
Factor that in and it is outright amazing, I believe, what Newt has in his column. Think Texas. A sweep as Rick Perry predicts would blow a new wind side ways across the country.
I am very enthused, and see a shake up in the making, don’t you. We may well get a brokered/contested convention after all!
I’m thinking TEXAS for NEWT, and we have a ball game, with Santorum, I believe, in a permanent melt down, having lost Catholics and Tea Party in MI, after his lecture circuit blew a fuse.
After this week Newt will have 75 delegates just out of Georgia, is that correct?
For what it’s worth regarding the delegate allocation procedure in GA.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/GA-R#0306
Tuesday 6 March 2012: All 76 of Georgia’s delegates to the Republican National Convention are bound to presidential contenders in today’s Presidential Primary.
42 district delegates bound to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the 14 congressional districts: each congressional district is assigned 3 National Convention delegates.
If a candidate receives a majority of the vote (more than 50%), that candidate is allocated all 3 of the district’s delegates.
If no candidate receives a majority of the vote, the candidate with the most votes (plurality) receives 2 delegates and the candidate receiving the next highest number of votes receives 1 delegate. [Rules of the Georgia Republican Party. 7.3(B)(3)]
31 at-large delegates (10 base at-large delegates, 21 bonus delegates) are proportionally bound to presidential contenders according to the statewide vote. A mandatory 20% threshold is required for a presidential contender to receive National Convention delegates. [Rules of the Georgia Republican Party. 7.3(B)(4)]
Step 1- Proportional allocation: For each candidate receiving 20% or more of the vote, delegates = [the number of votes received by that candidate] × [31 at-large delegates] ÷ [the total number of votes received by all candidates meeting the 20% threshold]. Each candidate receives the whole number of delegates (round down to the whole number). Example: If candidate A receives 7.6 delegates, candidate B receives 5.8 delegates, and candidate C recives 3.7 delegates— A gets 7, B gets 5, and C gets 3.
Step 2- Rounding: If delegates remain, sort the candidates by the their remainder. Beginning with the candidate with the largest remainder, assign 1 delegate to each candidate until all delegates are allocated. In the example above, candidate B’s remainder is .8, candidate C’s is .7, and candidate A’s is .6. If there were 2 delegates to be allocated, B and C would each receive 1. The final allocation would be A- 7, B- 6, C- 4.
The 3 RNC party leader delegates, the National Committeeman, National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the Georgia’s Republican Party are bound to the candidate receiving the most votes statewide. [Rules of the Georgia Republican Party. 7.3(B)(4)]
“While I put Newt ahead of Rick....and could strongly back either in the General Election (especially if the other was the VP partner). I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY.”
I am in complete agreement with you. I have issues with both Santorum and Gingrinch but believe that together they would beat Obama in a landslide. Romney however will lose worse than McCain did in 2008 no matter who he picks for VP. I did not realize until recently that Santorum actually endorsed Romney in 2008. I have suspected for a while that he has been promised the VP slot and is only staying in to draw primary voters away from Gingrinch. The ironic thing is that I think Ron Paul has been told that his son Rand will get the nod if he stays in as well......but Romney is enough of a snake that I think he’ll pick someone else anyway once he gets the nomination and then it will be too late!
He just can’t stop with the missteps and backtracking. I think people are getting a sense that he won’t be able to stand up to Obama and the Democrats.
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH!
You know, I think the Establishment and its media mouths have tried to rush us in the run-up to Super Tuesday, and failed.
While a few “names” fell in for Myth in the last few days, the majority are all seeing the same thing we’re seeing, a Santorum implosion, and several superb performances by Newt in the same time frame. A fresh collection of a meaningful number of delegates is a new game on.
Thank you.
Rita
Interesting post. What was a surprise to me was hearing George Stephanapolis predict that it would be a Romney/Santorum ticket.
He said it in a most matter of fact manner.
While I don’t care for the man at all, it seems more & more likely as time goes on & I think that the DC beltway boys are ready to back that ticket...
“Its so obvious that all Santorum is doing is trying to imporve his own fortunes. He hasn’t a clue what is ailing the country, nor what to do about it.”
Oh tosh again - Stop repeating your opinions as facts. IF you are of the opinion that he is “clueless”, well that is an opinion and even if true doesn’t denigrate his character. However, when you boldly state he “is trying to improve his own fortunes”....that is wrongly attacking his character. How do you know what is in his heart.
Look I don’t stand by while either Newt or Rick is denigrated. To disagree with their ideas is not a problem, but to attribute their actions to some nefarious purpose is over the top and counterproductive.
I think Newt would make the best person to run against Obama because I think he would eviscerate Obama in debates. He has a powerful intellect. However, in defense of Sanatorum, he has consistently been socially conservative. He was one of the first persons to advise President G.W. Bush to not call the mideastern problem a “war on terror” but a war on those that would set up an “Islamist” world with Sharia law. He was a pioneer on that.
Both Newt Gingrick and Rick Santorum, IMO, deserve respectfull treatment and serious consideration for the GOP pick. I deepest regret is that they have not formed a team.
We know him by his votes; is that ‘tosh?’
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Mittens Romney is gaingin? ARG!!!!!!!
No, it’s the wisest scenario.
His own history shows why Santorum is not electable: he only got to the senate on Newt's 1994 Republican Revolution's coattails, he was only reelected on W's coattails (mirrored W's win with men)) and when it came to standing on his own Pennsylvania voters repudiated him with an 18 point loss (lost 61% of women), the largest for any incumbent senator in more than a quarter century. These are bare facts and the candidate deflects saying it was just "a bad year for Republicans..." that sounds an awful lot like "Bush's fault" to me.
He always deflects responsibility whether it's his 2006 loss or his failure to take Michigan or the Ohio delegate problem or the contortionist spin of the AZ debate. He cannot articulate an agenda, he cannot defend conservatism because he doesn't understand it. He's forever taking media bait. He's just another lawyer turned career politician.
His voting record is an embarrassment to real conservatives from his Circuit Court confirmation vote for Sonya Sotomayor, who became Obama's first Supreme Court nominee, to his exploding the budget for Amtrak by over a half-billion dollars, his love of Big Labor, he is a disaster... He's nothing more than another big government "compassionate conservative" at best. He could almost pass for a Blue Dog Democrat.
As the 3rd ranked senate Republican, his role in the establishment was to build ties between K Street lobbyists and the GOP.
On many levels he's a fake, a fraud like Romney and Pennsylvanians finally had enough of him. He is the best chance for a clean sweep reelection for Obama.
Any politician who hides behind his family story as much as Santorum needs a thorough vetting with a very fine tooth comb. You'd think voters would be more sophisticated and realize, at the end of the day, he's another failed lawyer-politician on an ego trip run for the White House.
His appeal to blue collar labor might be useful as a running mate but he should not be at the top of the stick. I won't be surprised if Romney's the nominee and Santorum's added.
“We know him by his votes; is that ‘tosh?’”
Santorum is solidy a Social Conservative with impeccable credentials in that area. Sounds to me like you just don’t like social conservatives - one of the three legs of conservatism. IF so, you aren’t conservative. Also, Santorum is a solid national defense conservative. He understood the Islamist problem long before others...and said so.
I seriously doubt he would run as VP to Romney anymore than I would except Newt to do so. IF either did, I would lose respect for them both and still would NEVER vote for Newt.
FRiend, you are NOT helping Newt, my first choice, by bashing Santorum. It is just creating animosity that will destroy both men.
“You’d think voters would be more sophisticated and realize, at the end of the day, he’s another failed lawyer-politician on an ego trip run for the White House.”
He is NOT on an ego trip. Both Rick and Newt have done some really bad things previously. However, both are preferably to Romney. My first support goes to Newt, but Santorum is my second choice. I see nothing to be gained by the bashing of him or Newt by persons on this forum.
By the way - Santorum IS NOT establishment. The “establishment” is embarrassed by true social conservatives like Santorum. For all errors in other areas....he is solidly the most socially conservative running. Newt is more balanced, a better debater, smarter....so I support him. But still think Santorum is OK and would rather have him, if Newt can’t get the nod, than Romney. If fact, I would rather Newt or Santorum be the nominee for the GOP EVEN IF it meant losing the general election. I don’t see a potential Romney victory as win for me and my values.
Here is a breakdown of the rules for the GA GOP Primary delegate allocation:
Thank you deport for posting the delegate info for GA. I didn’t read down far enough before answering RitaOK.
Charge!!!!!
If I have anything to say about it, Newt will have at least some Massachusetts delegates after tomorrow.
” If I have anything to say about it, Newt will have at least some Massachusetts delegates after tomorrow. “
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Whoo Hoo! A Newt Risin’ Day for Super Tuesday! That is great news!!!
Georgia has 3 delegates per district.
If Newt gets more than 50% in any district, he gets all 3!
Where he doesn’t get 50%, but still leads in the vote tally, he gets 2!
A Newt Risin’ Day, and he’s closing in on Santorum for more delegates!
TEXAS is now scheduled for May,29! Rick Perry is working on a sweep! Whoo Hoo!
I realize that you have been lead to believe that Santorum is a “solid” social conservative, but even that is a big stretch job.
Santorum voted to remove legal protections from pro-life demonstrators that demonstrate at abortuaries. That is not something that a solid social conservative would do.
Santorum is fake.
“I realize that you have been lead to believe that Santorum is a “solid” social conservative, but even that is a big stretch job........Santorum is fake.”
I have told you I prefer Newt to Rick. However, I do not question his, Santorum’s, Social Conservative bonafides.
LONG before this election, and any hint he was running for pres, Rick Santorum was often featured on Focus on the Family. Also, he has been heartily endorsed by Dr. James Dobson who practically sets the mark for social/moral conservatism. Dobson has never been one to “compromise” on an endorsement either. Dobson WOULD NOT endorse a wishy washy candidate. So, unless you are so much more knowledgeable on the big picture than James Dobson (rhetorical question - you ARE NOT) your calling Santorum a “fake” is so much uninformed or biased baloney.
Now that being said, I again emphasize that I think Newt is the better (more balanced) candidate and I hope he pulls it out during Super Tuesday. However, I will not abide someone ridiculing the “real deal” social conservative like Santorum. IF you want to blast him on other areas....well he has holes. But lay off calling him a “fake” on Social Conservatism or on implying or stating he is just an opportunist. The man is sincere, just as Newt is.
Jim Dobson has often endorsed the worst candidate.
I consider Dobson to be a questionable Christian at best. He tends toward ecumenism, which is totally contra-Biblical. Focus on the Family is a wealth aglomerating organization, with excessive investment in its own offices and comforts, and spends massively on a pointless radio program.
Santorum was himself a pro-choicer well into the ‘90s. Your wishes will not change that fact.
“I consider Dobson to be a questionable Christian at best. He tends toward ecumenism, which is totally contra-Biblical. Focus on the Family is a wealth aglomerating organization, with excessive investment in its own offices and comforts, and spends massively on a pointless radio program.”
The only thing in this statement with any “truth” is that Dobson is ecumenical. The other stuff is just over the top extremism opinion. Only God can judge if the Radio Program is “pointless.” Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Dobson is (or was before retirement) a recognized leader of Conservative Christian Evangelicals. If he had “bad picks” it was because they were Social Conservatives first....which doesn’t go well with this secular society we live in.
What in the world are you? Do you live the austere lifestye you say Dobson should?
If you like people that use a false representation of the Gospel to acquire personal wealth, that is your choice.
I’ll pass on it.
Dobson is a funny little apple, and so are the politicians he endorses.
You must belong to some ulta-sectarian denomination that thinks only its adherants are Christians.
I have never heard anything from Dobson that would indicate that he believes anything other than “Genuine faith in Jesus Christ (God the Son) ALONE is the basis for salvation.” He doesn't preach salvation by works, sacrements, etc. Faith Alone in Christ Alone - that is it (of course Repentance of Sin is concurrent with this). That is the essence of the Gospel. There is NO OTHER GOSPEL. I have never heard Dobson push anything that is a “false representation.” So, I don't have a clue what you are talking about...it certainly isn't the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Now do I areas of theological/doctrinal disagreement with him - yes, but nothing that would brand him as a "false representation." You must also think Billy Graham to have been a "false representation."
“If you like people that use a false representation of the Gospel to acquire personal wealth, that is your choice.”
Your statement reminds me of things said about ministers of the Gospel by damnable Mormons. Which is a “FALSE GOSPEL.” It is chocolate covered poison....an insidious evil.
Are you a closet Mormon?
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