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The Scam of Scum
Canada Free PRess ^ | March 4, 2012 | Dr. Klaus L.E. Kaiser

Posted on 03/04/2012 9:23:02 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

Algae, the green stuff suspended in and floating on the surface of over-fertilized (polluted) water, AKA scum, is supposed to save America’s dependence on foreign crude oil. The President has said so. He stated that “up to 17% of the oil we import for transportation” could be replaced with this fuel [1].

It bears no semblance to any reasonable cost/benefit analysis in either energy or cost terms.

In simple terms, it’s just another “green” scam.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algae

1 posted on 03/04/2012 9:23:05 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Liar in chief, pulls this stuff out of his butt.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 9:29:53 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: Vince Ferrer

OF COURSE Obama likes algae. After all, he’s hung out with pond scum from college on. . . .


3 posted on 03/04/2012 9:33:00 PM PST by Salgak
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To: Vince Ferrer

This article doesn’t mention it, but there are many companies trying to do this sort of thing and have been running into problems for years. For some of these problems, companies are trying workarounds by genetically engineering algae that has properties that can skip some of these steps. However, this often runs into a different set of problems. It is easy to grow algae, very easy. But it is difficult to grow only the type you wish to grow, and nothing else. Cheap growth ponds only invite contamination from the wind and will lower yields. Also, algae grows so quickly that any problems can cause a collapse in the population if not adressed immediately, unlike other crops like corn. This is manageable with technology, but also adds greatly to cost.


4 posted on 03/04/2012 9:34:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

What does the algae do to hurt the population? crawl out of its ponds and murder people?


5 posted on 03/04/2012 9:40:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Vince Ferrer
ALGAEMAN, ALGAEMAN
6 posted on 03/04/2012 9:41:51 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What does the algae do to hurt the population? crawl out of its ponds and murder people?

I was meaning a collapse in the population of the algae. When using algae in an industrial process, they would want it to be continuously feeding and reproducing, at as high a rate as possible. This means that it must live in an environment that is highly tuned regarding water quality, temperature, and its food inputs. Any problems in these parameters and the algae will die out fast, not gradually. The time between a problem occuring and a collapse of the population could be as short as hours, not days or weeks.

7 posted on 03/04/2012 9:48:29 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
President Obama boldly challenged skyrocketing oil prices by suggesting that we should start using algae instead of gas.

"Three years ago I came out with a bold proposal to inflate American tires, and that alone has diminished our dependency on foreign oil by 83 percent. The remaining 17 percent can be easily made up for with algae - if we can only figure out how to make energy out of that.

"Why algae? Because we've got a lot of it. In fact, as a nation, we're loaded with pretty much everything - take dirt, for example. We have a lot - A LOT of dirt. Except 'dirt' doesn't have the same foreign, cosmopolitan ring to it as the word 'algae' has.

"So I'm hereby announcing production of a new algae-powered automobile: the Chevy Fishtank."


8 posted on 03/04/2012 9:52:00 PM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: FrankR

9 posted on 03/04/2012 9:54:17 PM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

If algae otherwise could be coaxed into yielding passable efficiency to a fuel process, the growing sensitivity of the algae probably would be the least of our worries.

I don’t think this could really take off until we came up with an algae that thrived in the saltiness of ocean water. The expense of furnishing it with fresh water would be prohibitive.


10 posted on 03/04/2012 9:58:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What does the algae do to hurt the population?

Run for Congress?

11 posted on 03/04/2012 11:06:13 PM PST by John Locke
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To: Vince Ferrer
Being able to produce 16 thousand gallons of algae fuel/acre/year is not going to make any difference unless an area the size of Arizona is going to be converted to ponds.
12 posted on 03/04/2012 11:44:51 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Vince Ferrer; AFPhys; Defendingliberty; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

13 posted on 03/04/2012 11:46:12 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: count-your-change

Exactly. Hasn’t anyone done the math on how many vats of algae would be needed and how big they would have to be in order to produce 17% of our energy needs?

I have a hunch that Arizona wouldn’t be large enough to house them—and where would the water come from?


14 posted on 03/05/2012 3:23:19 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Most of the needed water would come from the tears of investors.


15 posted on 03/05/2012 3:51:46 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Investors? That would be us as Obama would pick his crony green companies and invest US funds in them per Solyandra as in Solong.


16 posted on 03/05/2012 7:06:46 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: count-your-change
This pond might be big enough:


17 posted on 03/05/2012 8:01:09 AM PST by Reeses
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To: wildbill

Every cow pond across the Midwest could become a federal project.


18 posted on 03/05/2012 8:13:15 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There are many species of algae which thrive in salt water. In fact one set of them, blue green algae, might have advantages. These can survive in a higher saline environment, so a tank could be created which could not be contaminated by other species. However a highly saline environment is also highly corrosive, and so expenses would rise.


19 posted on 03/05/2012 8:59:44 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: count-your-change

Don’t forget hog wallows. Why almost any of us peasants could become landowners with interests in the “oil bidness”, selling our slime rights to the Big Algae.


20 posted on 03/05/2012 9:18:47 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Tank growing is always going to have too high a capital cost. There are predatory amoeba algae eaters that could be used like antibodies. The desired algae could be engineered to contain a friend or foe protein that would cause the amoeba to ignore it.
21 posted on 03/05/2012 9:41:39 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Vince Ferrer

Salt water is pretty mild compared with many petroleums. It would be an odd complaint that it is too corrosive to deal with, and perhaps algae farms could be accommodated out in the ocean itself. The resulting bioharvest would still need to have salt flushed out of it, of course.


22 posted on 03/05/2012 1:39:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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