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The Real Point of the Left’s Uproar over Limbaugh
FrontPage Magazine ^ | March 5, 2012 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 03/05/2012 5:18:47 AM PST by SJackson

Rush Limbaugh has got the progressives pitching a fit over some remarks on his radio show about a Georgetown University law student named Sandra Fluke. Fluke had made the preposterous claim, while addressing House Democrats over President Obama’s rule forcing Catholic institutions to pay for contraception, that the cost of birth control was prohibitive for Georgetown law students. Limbaugh responded by calling Fluke a “slut” and a “prostitute” who is “having so much sex, she can’t afford the contraception; she wants you and me – the taxpayers – to pay her.”

Progressive dudgeon hit the stratosphere. Democrat Representative Louise Slaughter wrote a letter that decried Limbaugh’s “sexually charged, patently offensive, and obscene language” and “atrocious and hurtful words.” MSNB’s Jonathan Capehart called the comments “hateful” and “rude,” and said they were “low” even for Limbaugh. Democrat “strategist” Krystal Ball (sic) called Limbaugh “despicable,” “disgusting,” and a “loathsome individual.” The Washington Post’s Jamila Bey called the remarks “hate speech” and claimed they “crossed into the realm of sexual harassment.” The president of Georgetown said the remarks were “misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation of the position of our student.”

And in the midst of crisis in the Middle East and the ticking entitlement time bomb, President Obama found time personally to call Fluke and deplore Limbaugh’s “inappropriate personal attacks.” Following the loss of some advertisers, Limbaugh apologized for what he called his “attempt to be humorous.”

I’m not interested in Limbaugh’s comments or whether or not they are “appropriate.” When you enter the political kitchen, as Fluke did, you should be ready to get scorched. As always, more interesting is the reaction to the comments. And that reaction once again reveals the monstrous hypocrisy of progressives. The folks who proclaim their sensitivity, nuanced thinking, therapeutic concern for the tender sensibilities of others, and open-mindedness have always been the most vicious, bigoted, narrow-minded, crude, dogmatic, conformist people on the planet. Take everybody’s exhibit number one, the HBO blowhard Bill Maher, who’s on record calling Sarah Palin a “c—t” and inviting Jon Huntsman to “suck my d—k.” I don’t remember the President calling Palin or Hunstman to regret “that our political discourse has become debased,” as his flack Jay Carney put it. Nor is anyone demanding that Obama-supporting superpac Priorities USA Action should return the million bucks Maher gave it. Why should they? Remember when Obama called the Tea Party folks “tea-baggers,” a vulgar sexual term? “Appropriate” and “debased” are in the eye of the progressive beholder, and depend on the ideology of whoever is being attacked.

Of course, in the progressive hysteria we are also subjected to the “chilling free speech” charge, as when Fluke on the Today Show Friday said that Limbaugh’s comments were an “attempt to silence me.” She apparently doesn’t think that her threat to sue Limbaugh––the left’s favorite WMD when it comes to destroying free speech–– might be an attempt to silence him. In fact, rather than “silencing” her, Limbaugh’s comments have given an obscure law student the biggest platform on the planet, at the same time Limbaugh’s apology suggests that it is his free speech that’s been “chilled.” And are the media so dumb that they don’t see the absurdity of a guest on the Today Show claiming to its 5.6 million viewers that someone tried to “silence” her?

More important than occasioning a display of progressive hypocrisy is Fluke’s claim that law students at a prestigious private school can’t afford birth control. If Fluke could produce one of her colleagues who doesn’t have an I-phone, an I-pad, an I-pod, a high-speed internet connection, or cable television; who doesn’t spend $20 a week at Starbucks, or has to eat ramen every night, or never takes a vacation, never eats out, never goes to bars or concerts; or who has parents on welfare who can’t contribute to her education, or works part-time at a burger joint, or has any other characteristics of someone so poor she can’t budget for birth control pills, then maybe she’d have a point. But even then, condoms are available for free at numerous clinics and even at some retail stores. And God forbid we should suggest that the young lady just say no.

The cost of birth control, though, is just a smokescreen. More pernicious is the assumption that, as Fluke puts it, “This is about women’s health.” In other words, unplanned pregnancy is a disease, something that like breast cancer just sort of happens to a woman, and for which she bears no responsibility. That’s how House minority leader Nancy Pelosi sees it. Speaking of the failed Senate amendment to allow religious organizations not to fund contraception, Pelosi said that the measure was “part of the Republican agenda of disrespecting women’s health issues [by] allowing employers to cut … basic health services for women, like contraception, mammograms, prenatal and cervical-cancer screenings.”

Since pregnancy is a disease, then, someone else should pay the premium for insuring against the consequences of a woman’s risky, careless behavior. She shouldn’t even be responsible for grabbing some free condoms at the clinic and taking care of the risk herself.

Look even closer, and we see the real progressive agenda at work: increasing the power and reach of the federal government and its bureaucratic minions by discrediting and marginalizing any other source of authority over our behavior, especially institutions of moral authority such as churches. That way the government can aggrandize its power by relieving people of the responsibility for their choices through palliating their damaging consequences while making others pay for them. Tocqueville noticed 150 years ago this tendency of centralized power to expand by infantilizing the citizenry. Centralized governments, Tocqueville remarked, act as “if they thought themselves responsible for the actions and private conditions of their subjects, as if they had undertaken to guide and to instruct each of them in the various incidents of life and to secure their happiness quite independently of their own consent.” Moreover, this insidious paternalism corrupts the people, who “invoke its assistance in all their necessities,” and who “fix their eyes upon the administration as their mentor and their guide.” But all for a price: the diminishment of our freedom and autonomy, both of which require accepting the burdensome and sometimes painful responsibility for the consequences of our actions.

Our modern progressives, however, have added a new twist to this process. Removing sexual behavior from the strictures of traditional authority, and then taking responsibility for the consequences of careless sex like pregnancy, make state-subsidized sexual pleasure a seemingly cost-free distraction from the erosion of freedom and autonomy, as Aldous Huxley foresaw in Brave New World. Sexual freedom now trumps political freedom, and sexual pleasure is the honey that sweetens the bitter poison of diminished freedom. Hence the progressive’s elevation of contraception and abortion into “rights,” which puts the necessary discussion of the obvious destructive consequences of sexual promiscuity out of bounds. But these “rights” have nothing to do with “women’s health” and everything to do with the progressive government’s aim of consolidating and increasing its power at the expense of other authorities, like churches, that might have something to say about the personally and socially destructive price of those “rights.” That’s the real significance of the uproar Rush Limbaugh caused: not his crudity or insensitivity, but calling attention to the centrality of sexual libertinism to the progressive agenda of increasing government power at the expense of individual freedom.

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1 posted on 03/05/2012 5:18:54 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Now that the truth has come out about who this “fluke” really is maybe Rush should back-off the apology and school the press in leftist disinformation and red-herring politics.


2 posted on 03/05/2012 5:25:54 AM PST by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: SJackson

The morals of this country are in the toilet and they aren’t coming out.


3 posted on 03/05/2012 5:26:43 AM PST by Venturer
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To: SJackson
HYPOCRISY ..... thy name is "The Left".

Obama fundraiser Bill Maher Calls Sarah Palin a Female Vulgarism, NOW Stays Mum (3/22/2011)

UPDATED: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Calls Radio Host Laura Ingraham A ‘Right Wing Slut’

4 posted on 03/05/2012 5:26:47 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SJackson

The Left has raised “Feigned Outrage” to an art form.


5 posted on 03/05/2012 5:27:49 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: SJackson

This is about a blank check for planned parenthood...

If 1% of the 12 million female college students currently enrolled in school signed up for the Sandra Fluke plan at $1250 a year through Planned Parenthood... They would pick up about $150 Million in revenue... At a 30% profit margin... That’s enough to underwrite every single abortion performed in the US last year.

Super easy to offer free abortion if the victim... Err client... Agrees to 2 years on the Sandra Fluke Birth Control Plan.


6 posted on 03/05/2012 5:28:12 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: SJackson

Look for a backlash against this nonsense down the road.


7 posted on 03/05/2012 5:28:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SJackson

I would bet they’re trying to shut him down before he has Arpaio on and starts discussing his findings.


8 posted on 03/05/2012 5:29:34 AM PST by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: TPOOH

I agree, the damage is done, Fluke exposed for what she is, an activist, slut, and prostitute - damn the torpedoes Rush, full speed ahead..


9 posted on 03/05/2012 5:33:42 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (I STAND WITH ISRAEL)
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To: SJackson; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Rush Limbaugh’s ONLY crime was having the nerve to say of a LIBERAL woman, on the air, the something similar to that countless LIBERALS have proudly said about Republican women, starting with Sarah Palin (Letterman) and encompassing ANY and ALL women who are conservative.
Can anyone tell me of an indignant response to any of the vile and hateful things said by the LEFT regarding the women of the RIGHT? (crickets chirp)


10 posted on 03/05/2012 5:34:16 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: SJackson

Rush’s show today is going to be epic.

Bet he gains a million listeners over this.


11 posted on 03/05/2012 5:35:14 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: SJackson
The rection from the Left is all about silencing Rush Limbauhgh--and anyone they don't like--any any criticism that threatens their dogma and their objectives which are always totalitarian and oppressive.

The Left IS everything that it claims to denounce.

The Left claims to fight against bigotry, narrow-mindedness, oppression, and conformity, yet Leftists are among the most bigotted, narrow-minded, dogmatic, oppressive, and conformist people on the planet.

12 posted on 03/05/2012 5:37:39 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Improving" on truth is contempt for truth: hubris and denial--the stuff of tragedy.)
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To: SJackson; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife; ...
Both RS and Newt did pretty good when asked about the Blunt amendment yesterday citing religious liberty and citing abortion pills.

But Democrats strategy is to make this a fight about Republicans trying to stop women from using birth control which would be a pretty unpopular position to take.

The real issue in my opinion is the difference between health insurance and welfare. Should the government force either sex to have to pay for the others treatments that can never apply to them? Is that insurance? With my auto insurance I have to buy liability insurance, but not collision. In this case liability insurance would be insurance to cover manadated emergency room treatment.

Then there is the issue of employer mandates and what they should be forced to pay for. Obama is winning that argument by claiming the employers dont really pay for the BC that he is forcing them to pay for. So who can argue over manadates that cost no one anything ?? (if thatwas really true.)

13 posted on 03/05/2012 5:40:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: SJackson
"He called her whaaaat ?? A SLUT ???"


14 posted on 03/05/2012 5:41:06 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (How ironic that Ann Coulter should write a book called Treason.)
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To: SJackson

Why blame the corrupt MSM? How did Boehner respond?


15 posted on 03/05/2012 5:43:11 AM PST by Obadiah (Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATMs?)
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To: SJackson

The real point seems to be that some dame can assert a RIGHT to have government supplement her activity of spreading her lags, and that RIGHT trumps Rush’s right to freedom of speech.

We DO NOT PROTECT FREEDOM OF SPEECH ONLY TO THOSE WE AGREE WITH!!!!!!!

I should add more parentheses:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 03/05/2012 5:44:55 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: jersey117
"I would bet they’re trying to shut him down before he has Arpaio on and starts discussing his findings."

Do you have a shred of evidence that Limbaugh has ANY intention of having Arpaio on his show?

17 posted on 03/05/2012 5:47:27 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’d love to see him start his show out with:

Great weekend, folks .... great weekend. First off today, I’d like to welcome the following list of new advertisers to the Rush Limbaugh show ......

Of course they’d be the next target of the Left thugs, but if they sign up during this fake ‘storm of indignation’ at Rush, they’d know what they were in for.


18 posted on 03/05/2012 5:52:39 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Peter W. Kessler; SJackson

Less than one year ago the elft was ceelbrating “sluts” with Slutwalks and Sluts for Choice rallies, one of them was called “As slutty as I want to be”. The MSM highlighted them and loved them.

Has this really been forgotten, even by the WASH TIMES?


19 posted on 03/05/2012 5:53:27 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SJackson

The Bible LSD= LUST, SIN, DEATH (James 1:15)

Yes! Sin will take you futher than you want to go
and sin will keep you longer than you want to stay
and sin will cost you more than you want to pay!

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23)

“If we walk in the light as He[Jesus] is in the light, we have fellowship one with another; and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin.” (1 John 1:7)

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves; and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:8-9)


20 posted on 03/05/2012 5:57:45 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: GeronL

Absolutely true.

And that fact by itself highlights their hypocrisy.


21 posted on 03/05/2012 5:58:59 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: SJackson
There's a peripheral, but related point here. Tuition at Georgetown for the 2011-2012 academic year was $40,920.00 for an undergraduate, not including fees. On campus housing is just under $5,000. When students decide to go there, and not to a state school, they are making a personal choice about finances.

There are many, many people out there who go to state and local colleges because they can't afford to go elsewhere - not because they can't get in elsewhere. They made a personal choice to go to a non-private, possibly less prestigious university because they didn't want to owe a huge amount in student loans (and/or didn't have parents willing or able to pay for a private college). Any student at Georgetown who is upset that they don't have enough money for contraceptives could have gone to a state school instead (not that I buy the contraceptive ‘hardship’ issue anyway).

22 posted on 03/05/2012 5:59:52 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SJackson
Don't the liberal godless fools know bringing this 30 year old activist forward will only give Rush higher rating...He has more smarts in his little finger than the whole liberal party...I'll bet it took Nancy Pelosi all of and hour to get this activist in place t... After all they are trying all they can to up the ratings of the worse President in History..This whole thing is more than just about birth control..
23 posted on 03/05/2012 6:01:37 AM PST by PLD
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To: Godebert

Of course not. But the story just broke and the presentation was credible. We know the MSM isn’t going to report on the findings of fraud and forgery but Rush, having millions of listeners, could do a lot of damage by getting the story out there. I think it was a pre-emptive strike on free speech. You probably won’t see any talk radio host going after the Arpaio story now. They’ve been warned.


24 posted on 03/05/2012 6:04:44 AM PST by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I had the same thought. Rush’s first hour today should be a ratings bonanza.


25 posted on 03/05/2012 6:05:01 AM PST by JPG (Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
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To: jersey117

Of course nothing is ever made of Bill Maher’s referring to Sarah Palin as c-—, or Schulze referring to Laura Ingrahm as a slut. What else can be said when an unmaried woman sleeps around town with every Tom, Dick or Harry? Then she wants to get taxpayer reimbursement for her sexual activities. Bottom line, Rush is tough but he is right!!


26 posted on 03/05/2012 6:10:20 AM PST by kenmcg (How)
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To: JPG

Do you think Rush will broadcast today, or will he have a sub?


27 posted on 03/05/2012 6:13:54 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Obadiah

” How did Boehner respond?”

The same way as other gutless, spineless pubbies such as Romney, Santorum, Paul, Issa et al. They all threw him under the bus.


28 posted on 03/05/2012 6:14:39 AM PST by kenmcg (How)
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To: SJackson

When you are in Seattle don’t forget to...

http://ridetheslut.com/ !!!

LoL!


29 posted on 03/05/2012 6:14:58 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SJackson
The president of Georgetown said the remarks were “misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation of the position of our student.”

What position does she prefer?

30 posted on 03/05/2012 6:19:21 AM PST by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: SJackson

ping


31 posted on 03/05/2012 6:19:29 AM PST by celmak
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To: SJackson

Sandra Fluke, You ignorant slut!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs


32 posted on 03/05/2012 6:23:27 AM PST by Mozilla (Defeat Romney first then defeat Obama)
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To: SJackson
The rapid collapse of Rush tells me that we have lost. The left can pull the outrage game and we have no counter to it. Until the right can take to the street and match the left riot for riot we have no chance.

Game over. No sense trying to save the system, time to just bring it down and rebuild on the ruins.
33 posted on 03/05/2012 6:36:17 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SJackson; All
Sandra Fluke's a blowhard 30-year-old leftist activist on feminist issues.

Fluke's degree from Cornell is in Policy Analysis & Management and Feminist, Gender, & Sexuality Studies (which explains going to law school - that undergraduate degree is really, really useful on its own < /sarc &gr ). At Cornell, she protested a pro-life display when she was an officer of Cornell's Students Acting for Gender Equality (SAGE). At Georgetown, she got involved in Law Students for Reproductive Justice, the International Women's Human Rights Clinic, the Women's Legal Alliance, and the Journal of Gender and the Law. That $3,000 public interest job she mentioned in her statements to the Democrats in Congress was at the Womens Lawyers Association of Los Angeles.

When her photo was posted at FR, people joked about whether she was straight. That resume above would normally cause people at FR to make similar suggestions.

And we don't know, because in her statement to the Democrats, Fluke never mentioned her own sex life or her own past, current, or proposed use of contraceptives a single time.

Fluke said she was going to be the voice of other women and proceeded to tell the story (some outrageous, and with no guarantee any of them were true - and she wasn't under oath) of six other women. Generally women who had some medical need for birth control pills but couldn't get them paid for under a medical plan. The stories were outlandish - a woman who had orders from a physician for a medical condition, but an insurance company interviewed her and decided she really wanted them for sex, so it denied coverage; a woman who didn't seek medical assistance for rape because she knew contraceptives weren't covered and assumed that any medical care having to do with her ya-ya wasn't going to be covered.

Limbaugh could have attacked Fluke's stories as preposterous, or something that happened once in a hundred years, or something based on the stupidity of the woman (the rape story). But he chose to go after Fluke and to call her a slut and a prostitute? Over and over and over. He kept saying she claimed she was having lots of sex, and that she was having lots of sex and wanted to be paid for it, or that she was having so much sex and she wanted somebody else to pay for it.

He claimed Fluke said she was having so much sex having so much sex, 'it's amazing she can still walk.'

He pulled her parents into it, asking if they were proud that they daughter "testifie[d] she's having so much sex she can't afford her own birth control pills." Limbaugh used every possible iteration, and they were all about Fluke testifying that she was having lots and lots and lots of sex . . .

And so people on FR think that Fluke said she did. And people on FR think Fluke testified that her birth control cost $3,000 per year, and that she couldn't afford it.

But Rush blew it by not focusing on the BS that Fluke actually DID say and instead going personal on Fluke's own sex life and promiscuity and calling her names.

Because Fluke never mentioned her own sex life a single time. She never mentioned her own birth control a single time. She never mentioned the cost of her birth control, or any financial burden on herself. She held herself out as some 30-year-old expert on other women. And for that, she should have been torn to shreds, but not personally attacked with made-up stuff about stories she never said about her own sex life.

And the next time the question of whether Rush Limbaugh is a blowhard comes up in the media? They can point to the fact he spent four days claiming lefy Fluke talked about her sex life and contraceptive needs to Congress, and personally attacked her for it, when there was no factual basis for Limbaugh's attack on her.

34 posted on 03/05/2012 6:38:36 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

He’ll be there. I’m sure he spent the weekend formulating his exact words/strategy. There is a method to the madness and the left may get more than they bargained for.


35 posted on 03/05/2012 6:40:53 AM PST by JPG (Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Collapse of Rush?
For every sponsor that pulls out,another is waiting
to take their place.
What we are seeing here is the pileing on liberals do
when they can’t defeat a conservative any other way.
I will be listening to Rush today and every chance I get.
The game is over only when we admit defeat.


36 posted on 03/05/2012 6:41:32 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Limbaugh could have attacked Fluke's stories as preposterous, or something that happened once in a hundred years, or something based on the stupidity of the woman (the rape story). But he chose to go after Fluke and to call her a slut and a prostitute? Over and over and over. He kept saying she claimed she was having lots of sex, and that she was having lots of sex and wanted to be paid for it, or that she was having so much sex and she wanted somebody else to pay for it.

He claimed Fluke said she was having so much sex having so much sex, 'it's amazing she can still walk.'

He pulled her parents into it, asking if they were proud that they daughter "testifie[d] she's having so much sex she can't afford her own birth control pills." Limbaugh used every possible iteration, and they were all about Fluke testifying that she was having lots and lots and lots of sex . . .

And so people on FR think that Fluke said she did. And people on FR think Fluke testified that her birth control cost $3,000 per year, and that she couldn't afford it.

But Rush blew it by not focusing on the BS that Fluke actually DID say and instead going personal on Fluke's own sex life and promiscuity and calling her names.

Because Fluke never mentioned her own sex life a single time. She never mentioned her own birth control a single time. She never mentioned the cost of her birth control, or any financial burden on herself. She held herself out as some 30-year-old expert on other women. And for that, she should have been torn to shreds, but not personally attacked with made-up stuff about stories she never said about her own sex life.


I guess you should have listened a bit more carefully then.
37 posted on 03/05/2012 6:43:01 AM PST by aruanan
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To: SJackson
So...Rush called her a slut. The New Testament calls her a fornicator when talking about those who are “unrighteous and shall not inherit the kingdom of God”. And what about who else is in this group? Well... those who worship idols, adulterers, homosexuals, thieves, drunks and extortionists plus some others. To all those who think engaging in sex outside of marriage (or being a fornicator or slut if you will) is ok... and you are just against the idea of a policy that would require religious affiliated institutions providing free health insurance coverage for birth control, you might want to recalibrate your thinking about how seriously God treats the matter. God’s Word is very clear about who inherits His Kingdom and who doesn’t (which I believe in this context means the alternative end point which is Hell). 1 Corinthians 6: 9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
38 posted on 03/05/2012 6:43:32 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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39 posted on 03/05/2012 6:46:01 AM PST by narses
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To: TPOOH

I am sure the apology was the work of his syndicator (Premiere) and not Rush himself. He may be a very highly paid contract employee, but he is an employee nonetheless.


40 posted on 03/05/2012 6:47:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SJackson

Rush should point out the similarities between Ms. Fluke’s ascension to prominence, and how Barack Obama was elevated to the White House.

There were lies about who Ms. Fluke was, until it was too late. She was not vetted by the media at all, in fact aided and abetted. She purported to be someone we now know she’s not. Her background, her age, her ideology, all were obscured to get her into position to damage the right.

It should not surprise us that Obama called her, they have so much in common.


41 posted on 03/05/2012 6:49:04 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: tet68
The game is over only when we admit defeat.

In case you didn't notice Rush issued an apology. That in anyone's book constitutes admitting defeat.

As for the vast reserves of sponsors, Rush's own actions answer that question. If he had sponsors waiting in the wings he wouldn't have backed off so fast.

Look at what has happened in the last seven days. Rush has been silenced. Santorum got mike checked into silence by the Occupy crowd. Andrew Breitbart is dead and there is nobody around to replace him. We are being silenced. If you are not allowed to speak there is no debate.
42 posted on 03/05/2012 6:49:38 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: aruanan
I guess you should have listened a bit more carefully then.

I'm calling you out. Back it up with some facts unless you're just a blowhard. Give me the quotes from Fluke's statement.

I didn't just listen once. I've listened to the video again (with a vomit bag handy). And I've read the transcript more than once. And I'm not the only one on FR and in the media to point out that Fluke didn't address her own sex life and contraceptive needs.

Fluke said she was there to be the voice of other women, and she told the stories of six other women.

Now. I listened carefully. YOU listen and read carefully. Find the transcript and the video. You tell me where Fluke said that stuff about her sex life.

Or are you just a blowhard who doesn't need the facts?

43 posted on 03/05/2012 6:50:29 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: GonzoGOP

Have they silenced you? That is the question.
Yes Rush apologized and that was probably a
mistake. Yet that is what civilized people do
and that too is probably a mistake when dealing
with ruthless liberals, for they see it as a sign
of weakness. Much like our situation in Afghanistan
with the koran.


44 posted on 03/05/2012 7:00:41 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Scoutmaster
I dont support Ms Fluke politics - but I agree 100% with your assessment.

I was going crazy yesterday trying to find evidence of some of the assertions people were making. I dont like to repeat stuff I haven't seen evidence of.

The thing about her age - people claiming she lied - no evidence. Just a blown fact in one NBC report.(as far as I have been able to determine)

Another article yesterday portrayed it as a secret that she was a law student and former president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice...nonsense!

2nd and 3rd sentence of her testimony:

"My name is Sandra Fluke, and I’m a third year student at Georgetown Law, a Jesuit school. I’m also a past president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ."

45 posted on 03/05/2012 7:03:50 AM PST by 2ndamendmentpa
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To: sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife
But Democrats strategy is to make this a fight about Republicans trying to stop women from using birth control which would be a pretty unpopular position to take.

And although it is not true, Obama would use that fear to label Santorum as the man who would outlaw birth control, and I do not believe Santorum is nimble enough to fight that effectively.

46 posted on 03/05/2012 7:07:38 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: SJackson
This is good but it needs to be even more elementary (in order to get down to liberals level): There is no "right to healthcare". Access to healthcare and access to healthcare insurance are two entirely different things. Although you do not have the right to either one, no one in this country is being denied access to healthcare.

And of course, when you get right down to it, just because you want something doesn't automatically mean that you are entitled to it.

I thought we went over all this....in kindergarten?! ;-)

47 posted on 03/05/2012 7:13:47 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: tet68
Have they silenced you?

Darn straight. Oh I might bitch on a message board, where there is some level of anonymity. But become a conservative public figure in this environment, no Flukeing way. When I put conservative lawn sings out in the last election my house got vandalized. Cook county cop's response, well that sort of thing happens. As an individual you are always vulnerable, especially when the other side controls the press and the police unions.

Would you go public and stick your head into that meat grinder? Why do you think our candidates are so poor? Anyone who dares to challenge the establishment is destroyed. What ever you think of Newt or Santorum they were smashed by the liberal media.

The only time we did well was when we were putting large numbers into the streets. At the height if the Tea Party it was OK to be a conservative, because they knew there were more of us than there were of them. An individual can be attacked and destroyed. Millions on the mall is simply another matter.
48 posted on 03/05/2012 7:14:11 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Of everything I’ve read about this today, your post is the closest to how I felt yesterday when I heard of Rush’s backing down...
he, of all on our side, has always stood for NOT backing down...and on top of the loss of our Warrior, Andrew Breitbart this week, I feel we have been de-clawed, emasculated, intimidated and rendered ineffective.
We are screwed...


49 posted on 03/05/2012 7:21:38 AM PST by matginzac
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; S; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife
RE :”And although it is not true, Obama would use that fear to label Santorum as the man who would outlaw birth control, and I do not believe Santorum is nimble enough to fight that effectively.

I saw Chris Wallace interview RS yesterday and Wallace drive that point that Dems are making, When RS said that the Blunt Amendment was a bill addressing Religious liberty not birth control or women specifically, Wallace struck back that RS is personally against the use of contraceptives. That put him on the defensive.

Newt does not have the same vulnerability on the issue and was able to maintain the offensive against David Gregory yesterday on the Blunt amendment.

50 posted on 03/05/2012 7:32:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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