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Eric Holder: Targeted killings legal, constitutional (Where's the outrage from the left?)
Politico ^ | 3/5/2012 | By JOSH GERSTEIN

Posted on 03/05/2012 5:27:23 PM PST by tobyhill

Attorney General Eric Holder Monday presented the Obama administration’s most detailed justification for armed drone strikes against Al Qaeda leaders, arguing that the U.S. government doesn’t legally need judicial review to kill terrorist operatives overseas — even when those individuals are American citizens.

“It’s clear that United States citizenship alone does not make such individuals immune from being targeted. But it does mean that the government must take into account all relevant constitutional considerations with respect to United States citizens – even those who are leading efforts to kill innocent Americans,” Holder said in a speech delivered at Northwestern University School of Law.

Questions about the legal basis for lethal U.S. drone operations have swirled for years, particularly as the Obama administration stepped up drone strikes in Pakistan. However, the queries and criticism became more intense after reports in 2010 that a New Mexico-born cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki — killed in a Sept. 2011 drone strike — was on a list of terror suspects that the U.S. had decided to target using deadly force.

Holder is the highest ranking administration official yet to defend the administration’s position, arguing that placing terror suspects on a so-called kill list is subject to “robust oversight,” but should not and need not involve the courts.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassination; citizenstargetted; defensebill; doj; holder; targettedkilling; uscitizen

1 posted on 03/05/2012 5:27:29 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Where's the outrage from the left?

Heck. They'd like to see the TEA party targeted.

2 posted on 03/05/2012 5:32:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: tobyhill

Oliver Stone’s son is already working on a screenplay! This will be the next film on HBO, funded by Tom Hanks and starring George Clooney, Matt Damon, Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon. Oh, wait......

3 posted on 03/05/2012 5:36:29 PM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: tobyhill

The left advocates killing Americans and has for a long time, well except for death row inmates. They really love killing babies and seeing conservatives get killed,,,just don’t call them a bad name or all Hades will break loose!

4 posted on 03/05/2012 5:36:51 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: tobyhill

I’m confused. The Obama administration and its Holder-led DOJ have repeatedly said that terrorism is a criminal matter and the suspects are entitled to constitutional protections and a trial. But, I guess that only applies to non-American terrorists. If the Obama administration thinks someone is an American terrorist then that suspect can be summarily executed BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT! Without due process. Without a trial. Quite simply: Murdered.


5 posted on 03/05/2012 5:51:08 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: tobyhill

OK, open season now on US terror suspects, no limit.

6 posted on 03/05/2012 5:51:53 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: tobyhill

I do not think “due process” means what they think it means.

7 posted on 03/05/2012 5:52:12 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: ought-six

Holder actually said that “due process” doesn’t mean the Courts. Had Bush said this the left would be apoplectic.

8 posted on 03/05/2012 5:56:02 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: tobyhill
"Where's the outrage from the left?"

The Left is outraged only when told to be so.

Leftists are stupid. They follow blindly. They become outraged when told to do so. They cannot think beyond groupthink. They cannot think for themselves. They are the puppets of their sociopathic leaders.

Leftists are stupid.

9 posted on 03/05/2012 6:09:08 PM PST by Savage Beast ("Improving" on truth is contempt for truth: hubris and denial--the stuff of tragedy.)
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To: BenLurkin

The left compromises on principle and make political calculations when their guy is in office just like Republicans do. How conservative was Bush? He spent like a Democrat, he gave us NCLB, he gave us a new prescription drug entitlement, etc, yet most Republicans (even many/most conservatives) supported him because he was on “our” team. That is just the nature of politics. The lefties just weigh whether it is worth taking, from their point of view, the good with the bad - and overall Obama is very good for the progressive left cause. They will forgive things like this because A)Obama is getting a lot of stuff done on their behalf they do support and B)They consider Republicans the greater evil. If that thinking sounds familiar is should - Republicans/conservatives usually make the same exact calculations only over different policy priorities.

10 posted on 03/06/2012 5:07:39 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Savage Beast

Whenever you see “hypocrisy” on the left,
instead of pointing out their hypocrisy,
dismiss the assertion of their surface issue.

When they are outraged about conservatives killing terrorists and not about Marxist presidents killing terrorists,

it must not be “killing terrorists” that enrages them,

it must simply be not being in power that enrages them.

11 posted on 03/06/2012 5:10:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
This is an excellent point, B.

Do you mean that when they are outraged about conservatives' killing terrorists but not about totalitarian dictators killing innocent people, it is not the killing but their not being in power that enrages them? And this is true.

If it were not for the vile mendacity, hypocrisy, and utter dishonesty of the Left--and the gullibility of its dupes--its vile and absurd contentions and propaganda could be easily dispatched.

But that's a big IF.

12 posted on 03/06/2012 5:25:28 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Improving" on truth is contempt for truth: hubris and denial--the stuff of tragedy.)
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