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Calderon and Biden: U.S. guns fuel Mexican violence and crime
- National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com ^ | 3/06/2012 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 03/06/2012 10:31:14 AM PST by GregNH

During his meeting with U.S. Vice President Joe Biden in Mexico City, President Felipe Calderon said the only way to win his country's war with the drug cartels is to jointly tackle organized crime including arms trafficking along the border as well as ceasing the rampant cross-border money laundering, according to a press statement.

The Mexican government has waged a war to eradicate organized crime gangs that has killed more than 47,700 victims over the past five years, according to figures released earlier this year by the Attorney General's Office.

Calderon claimed -- and Biden on behalf of the Obama administration agreed -- that the drug cartels have challenged the military and police with advanced weapons, most of which are trafficked illegally from the United States.

But Thomas McMahon, a former police commander and proponent of Second Amendment rights, tells the Examiner that these are no conclusive studies to support the claims of Calderon, Biden, Obama, or Attorney General Eric Holder.

"Trying to prove the canard of rampant gun-smuggling is what cost so many lives due to the Operation Fast and Furious debacle. That entire operation was politically-motivated and more about gun control in the U.S. than solving drug and gang problems in Mexico," said McMahon, now a private security executive.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; atf; banglist; borderwars; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gun; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; joebiden; obama
Like a drowning man desperately clutching for a lifesaver, Mexico's President Felipe Calderon on Monday demanded that more be done by the United States law enforcement community to curtail arms trafficking along the U.S.-Mexico border, a U.S. drug enforcement agent tells the Law Enforcement Examiner.
1 posted on 03/06/2012 10:31:24 AM PST by GregNH
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To: GregNH

So, Felipe, Why don’t you just take your army’s guns and kill all of the drug dealers. That would stop the need for guns crossing the border.


2 posted on 03/06/2012 10:35:59 AM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: GregNH

Then I guess our government should not be giving them out down there. Someone ask our AG just why he did that please...


3 posted on 03/06/2012 10:36:35 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: GregNH

Hey Calderon and Biden, talk to Obama and Holder.
That’s where your problem lies.
As an aside, stop sending illegals northward and stop sending drugs north, once that is done then we can talk.


4 posted on 03/06/2012 10:37:30 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: GregNH

So Calderon sends millions of Mexicans North to camp in the USA while collecting billions in drug money, and now demands that we start disarming Americans by restricting the supply of weapons.

Occupy, disarm, rule?


5 posted on 03/06/2012 10:38:02 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Guess his frikkin’ sign ain’t working...ping.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 10:39:14 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: GregNH; All
"Calderon and Biden: U.S. guns fuel Mexican violence and crime"


7 posted on 03/06/2012 10:39:31 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: GregNH

Calderon and Biden: Smuggled Mexican Tequila fuels USA drunk driver victim violence, drunken crime sprees, escalating divorce rate in Arizona.


8 posted on 03/06/2012 10:39:48 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Tequila smuggled into USA ?????? Who knew?)
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To: GregNH
Maybe Calderon can build a big fence to keep Holder's guns out.
9 posted on 03/06/2012 10:41:05 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: GregNH

So now we have Mexico telling US what WE need to do about THEIR problems?

Of course our pResident will bow to them and try DESPERATELY to have guns banned in the U.S.

For our safety of course!


10 posted on 03/06/2012 10:41:41 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: GregNH

Hey Felipe, if YOUR people can manage to get tons of coke over YOUR southern border, there’s no point in b****ing about guns.


11 posted on 03/06/2012 10:42:00 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: GregNH

Oh, I see. So now we’re going to fight the war on drugs by enforcing more rigid gun control in the U.S., not by enforcing the border. Is their no end to Democrats’ pathetic little games to sneak fascism upon us right under our noses?


12 posted on 03/06/2012 10:43:00 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: GregNH
MEX_FAIL1
13 posted on 03/06/2012 10:43:41 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: GregNH

14 posted on 03/06/2012 10:44:51 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: bunkerhill7; Darkshear; DBrow; musicman
Calderon stated that his countrymen expect to help generate more jobs in the United States and in return expect economic assistance from the Obama administration, the anonymous drug enforcement agent said.

LOL

15 posted on 03/06/2012 10:45:19 AM PST by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: GregNH
Good Lord, It’s like a dealer complaining about drugs on the streets and the crime they cause. How can this drivel get reported with a straight face?
16 posted on 03/06/2012 10:47:02 AM PST by Old North State (Don't blame me, I voted for Pedro)
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To: GregNH

HEY IT IS THE AMERICAN GOVT RUNNING GUNS TO YOUR COUNTRY TAKE IT UP WITH OBAMA AND THE CRAP WE CALL THE MSM.

WTH.
this pisses me off the left used him to do more gun laws but got caught in their gun running, the MSM covers for them, Holder keeps his job the GOP for the most past shut up YET AGAIN and now we have him harping on about this crap.

Yes American guns killed your people as well as ours but it was obama and Holder who gave the guns to drug lords so sue them


17 posted on 03/06/2012 10:48:00 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: GregNH

Their crying because Fast and Furious did not continue....


18 posted on 03/06/2012 10:48:54 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: GregNH

Should be:

U.S. Government fuels Mexican Violence and Crime


19 posted on 03/06/2012 10:50:41 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: GregNH
...that the drug cartels have challenged the military and police with advanced weapons, most of which are trafficked illegally from the United States.

So the Mexican military and police are armed with something less "advanced" than what Americans can legally buy??

20 posted on 03/06/2012 10:57:26 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: GregNH

jointly tackle organized crime including arms trafficking

You can start with holder and zero...Perp walk ‘em right the hell on out of here....


21 posted on 03/06/2012 10:57:32 AM PST by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: GregNH
GUNRUNILLEGAL
22 posted on 03/06/2012 11:03:19 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: GregNH

I strongly suspect that our politicians send guns and the Mexican drug lords send money in return.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 11:04:52 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Adder
Perp walk ‘em right the hell on out of here....

People claim that if tar and feather Zippo or toss him out or arrest his az that there will be riots in the streets. I am afraid that they would be hard pressed to find the rioters for the dancers of jubilation.

24 posted on 03/06/2012 11:08:01 AM PST by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: GregNH

Felipe, please tell us how much money the drug cartels are putting in your pocket?


25 posted on 03/06/2012 11:12:10 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: GregNH
U.S. guns fuel Mexican violence and crime

No, MEXICANS fuel Mexican violence & crime.

26 posted on 03/06/2012 11:31:35 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GregNH

Remember in one of Bidens’ campaign stump speeches when he said “No one is ever going to take my Beretta.”? When I heard it I thought “What’s the big deal, I doubt if you payed for it, anyway. Probably a $25,000 Beretta SO5 Sporting Shotgun given to him by a lobbyist”.


27 posted on 03/06/2012 11:32:08 AM PST by jmax (SLUTS SUCK)
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To: GregNH

Sorry, but it seems our Congress refuses to hold Obama and Holder accountable for illegally selling weapons to Mexican drug gangs in their Operation Fast & Furious.

Maybe Mexico can go to the international courts and get something done, or declare war on the US, or simple shut up and take it as we have over 10% of their population here as illegal invaders already.


28 posted on 03/06/2012 11:49:59 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: GregNH

Cool. So Mexico is going to help us build DMZ South?


29 posted on 03/06/2012 11:59:38 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: GregNH

I have a solution to the gun problem in Mexico. Impeach Obama and Biden. Replace them with a Republican who is pro-gun and fence in the border. Stop your mules from crossing from Mexico otherwise you’re a willing player in “furnish the cartels”.

Maybe if Mexico wasn’t so willing to let their people cross illegally they wouldn’t be getting guns shipped to their drug bosses by the Obama administration.


30 posted on 03/06/2012 12:01:38 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: GregNH

Easy fix, Srs. Calderon Y Biden. Build the WALL at the border, stop sales to Mexico, and watch them start buying AK’s from the NORKS or the Chicoms.


31 posted on 03/06/2012 12:10:04 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: GregNH
Brazen!
Sometimes one word is enough.
32 posted on 03/06/2012 12:11:49 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
What it does show is that even with Fast and Furious being a huge failure, in the way that this administration had plans for it, that they are still beating this drum of more gun control. Truly brazen
33 posted on 03/06/2012 12:19:29 PM PST by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: GregNH

“U.S. guns fuel Mexican violence and crime”

Then do something about the ‘Mexican’ violence and crime. It’s not like guns haven’t been around for centuries, and the US is the only source.


34 posted on 03/06/2012 12:32:33 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: GregNH
Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth
35 posted on 03/06/2012 1:47:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: GregNH

Bookmark


36 posted on 03/06/2012 2:59:45 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: GregNH
I have an idea for a new trade agreement...
Set up a new type of cap and trade industry, this time involving tangible, immediately measurable trades that will ultimately benefit both our nations.
For every illegal Mexican alien found in the USA and returned to Mexico, Mexico will trade an illegal USA gun found in Mexico.
37 posted on 03/06/2012 4:57:59 PM PST by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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