Skip to comments.Gingrich must endorse Santorum
Posted on 03/06/2012 6:59:02 PM PST by impimp
I have advocated Gingrich staying in until sometime in March. I felt the vote splitting would help prevent Romney from locking up a sufficient number of bound delegates to take the nomination. The plan did a good job so far, but not a great job.
I think now the mathematics is shifting such that Gingrich needs to bow out. The reasons for the shift are:
1. winner-take-alls coming up soon - vote splitting begins to really hurt us in these primaries 2. we need money consolidating behind Santorum. 3. Santorum made the Indiana ballot after all
But now Gingrich needs to bow out.
Thanks for the count!
So it appears that even if you add Santorum’s and Newt’s delegates together they add to 198...still less than Myth. that leads me to think that neither Newt nor Rick are “hurting each other” and splitting the vote. I don’t know how many are committed delegates.
It looks like there is a difference of 44 delegates between them. No big deal. The popular vote doesn’t count in the general. So if both men have the stamina and funds to stay in, I think that is great. Maybe the rest of the country would like to have a chance to vote.
And may I add...Go Newt!!
Nope. Let santorum bow out
You HAVE to be kidding! OMG! Hilarious! And I am notorious for not being a Sarah fan! THAT is the coolest thing I ever heard her say, and the timing is PRICELESS! She may get me in yet!
She may be seasoning up by gosh.
THANK YOU so much for telling me that!
Rinomney had pulled out to almost +6,000, but Santo’s started closing THAT gap, now down to Santo -3,800 with 89% counted.
If Gingrich doesn’t improve and stays in the race when we shift to “Winner take all” States, he deserves a spot on the Romney ticket.
“We are not kowtowing at present.
Deal with it.”
You don’t need to kow-tow for it to be over, and it’s over for Newt.
Deal with reality.
Did you just hear King say that perusing the remaining counties he doesn’t find a win for Rick?
He was in 2008 when he wasn't running but campaigning for Mitt trying to convince voters romney's the man. What change? Oh yes, he's running now.
The man lies to suit his own agenda and anyone voting for him are drawn in by lies. It says a lot about them, also. I'll never reward a liar!
He can try his scam on those who can be scammed.
Ron Paul has the least.
Not looking good for Newt.
Just think. Ron Paul gets 41% against Romney in Virginia!
Now THAT’S a revolt, in-your-face, to RINO World, no matter if VA this year is an anomaly.
No, I’m watching RCP online. But that’s the same impression I’m getting. Romney gaining gradually, presently at +5,859 (+0.5%) with 91% reporting. Doesn’t look good for Santorum. He’d have to win the remaining 9% of the vote by 6% to make it up, and he’s never been ahead by more than 3 or so the whole night.
It is what it is and we don’t kowtow.
Newt was not the first, and won’t be the last.
Try to run over us and see what happens.
I was sure Gingrich would take 2nd place in Tennessee, but you are right, he was 3rd (barely).
So Super Tuesday, pending Ohio switching (Romney ahead now), and no Alaska report (lower points better):
Romney 6-1st, 3-2nd, 1-3rd. (9)
Santorum - 3-1st, 3-2nd, 4-3rd (18)
Paul - 0-1st, 4-2nd, 2-3rd, 4-4th (30)
Gingrich - 1-1st, 4-3rd, 5-4th (32)
Gingrich only beat Santorum in 1 out of the 10 reported results, and actually did worse than Paul in state placements (but better with total votes and delegates because of Georgia).
Gingrich was really close in Olkahoma and Tennessee though. And Wyoming hasn’t reported enough to count yet.
Do you know of a link to a total delegate count for each candidate being run as each of the primaries take place. There used to be someone here on FR who kept a running record of awarded delegates for each candidate in some past primary elections.
“Try to run over us and see what happens.”
Friend, you’re so far back in the rear-view mirror you can’t be run over and you don’t matter anymore. You’re done. It’s over for Newt.
Santorum is sitting just at 20% in Georgia. If he can and up at or better than 20%, he takes a number of delegates from Romney. He also might be able to take some 2nd-place finishes in a few districts, costing Romney those delegates as well.
Every candidate has to do what they think is best. My only problem with the Robocalls in Georgia is that Newt didn’t need the votes — it might put him over 50% in some districts, so it might have helped.
But Santorum is currently at 19.6%. If he just had 0.4% better results, he’d take a half-dozen delegates from Romney. Those Robocalls probably give Romney a few more delegates.
What I would like to see is the total number of delegates that have been awarded each candidate so far. I notice that one candidate can win a particular state popular vote, and yet may not win more delegates than the second place winner.
I notice that the MSM does not want to show us a running actual delegate count for each candidate. I wonder why?
If you think it’s about Newt, you missed it. You and I are FRiends, I suspect.
It’s about ending the gop machine pretending to represent Conservatives.
Some of us are fiscal, some of us are social (Biblical).
What binds us and some other strange bedfellows is the Constitution. We’ll sort the minor differences out later.
Peace, Bro; cheers.
Newt is the only one who grasps all of the issues and thinks fast enough on his feet to be able to offset the fact that hussein will be given the debate questions ahead of time.
Only Newt is mean enough to lead us now. Should Romney or Santo manage to somehow beat hussein, they will out do Bush when it comes to turning the other cheek until the media has destroyed their ability to lead.
Most brilliant statement I've heard all night.
And you're still a dumass with a fracking STUPID idea.
Where liberty dwells, there is my country." Benjamin Franklin
Islam Delenda Est!
Mitt and Santorum are not going to when the general election because they have no reform ideas they can express and they are not effective in talking over the biased media.
“If you think its about Newt, you missed it. You and I are FRiends, I suspect.”
We no doubt are friends. Everything with Newt is about Newt, if we are honest. Regardless, even if it is about Newt, it won’t be about Newt anymore after tonight.
Newt is no longer a serious contender, nor should he be considered as such - Republicans don’t want him - they would have voted for him otherwise.
I vote Newt for Press Secretary.
“I vote Newt for Press Secretary.”
I think Newt needs to stay away from Secretaries.
Just make him Presidential Historian, lock him in the library, and make sure he behaves himself in the stacks.
Absolutely. Look how FReepers actually came home and announced on the election thread how proud they were to vote for Newt in Ohio. They and others like them gave Romney the win there.
This isn’t working. I appreciate everyone voting their favorite. But if FR sticks to the endorsement of Newt that helped so much before SC, it will only assist Romney at this point. And we know JR doesn’t want that.
The reason I wouldn’t want newt as president is because he has a deeply needy personality, probably from childhood, and he will be more motivated to fill his need for adoration and importance than to fulfill our need for a sane conservative steward of the country.
How Newt behaves when faced with this information, that his run from now on only helps split the conservative vote and give Romney that edge, will demonstrate whether he lets his desire for self importance or his love of country win out.
Texas was supposed to vote today. I wish someone would "follow the money" on just how that court case got so tangled up that our primary got postponed first to early April, and now to late May. It may get postponed further. Who has benefited by that? I'd say Romney. If Texas had voted today, no one would care how close Ohio is.
“How Newt behaves when faced with this information, that his run from now on only helps split the conservative vote and give Romney that edge, will demonstrate whether he lets his desire for self importance or his love of country win out.”
You’re absolutely right. It won’t make any difference to Newt or his supporters, but you’re nevertheless insightfully correct.
So on to block Romney, then?
Or aqcuiesce just to block Obama?
Newt can, but people have lost interest in him. It is a sad fact as I am a pretty big newt fan, but it is a fact nonetheless. Just as is the fact that there is this seemingly unbreakable level of support for Romney. We must take the momentum of santorum and turn it into a Romney defeat. This way we accomplish ABR and then we move to defeat Obama.
“Most brilliant statement I’ve heard all night.”
When the obvious sounds brilliant, you know it’s not the most elevated of threads, but thanks anyway.
Newt, if he were a morally decent man, would stop his campaign tonight - throw support to santorum in an attempt to block Romney - and then Obama.
Newt is not a morally decent man - if we know anything about him, we know that much.
Well, no one is bowing out this week, I guess, so let’s see how next week goes. AT some point it will become crystal clear.
I do fear the newt guys here are delusional. They hate Santorum but don’t get that people don’t like newt. I guess that is an ace in romney’s hole. I’d vote newt if he has the best chance to beat Romney in June.
I love this argument. Newt cant even win among Republicans, or even conservatives, yet somehow he is going to win the presidency when he is running 3rd place in the primaries.
Post of the night. I think these newt guys are delusional. Newt is a great speaker. A great visionary. But he has so many personality failings. And to some of us it’s evident.
Newt Gingrich, a John Paul II Catholic
Newt Brings Gaelic Fury To The GOP Race (some personal family history)
Newt Gingrich Attacks Fashionable Anti-Catholic Bigotry
Newt Gingrich: What Kind of Catholic Is He? [Born Lutheran, Turned Baptist, Now Catholic]
Newt Gingrich: Americas Next Catholic President?
Clemson Palmetto Poll finds Gingrich (38%) momentum growing, most S.C. GOP voters still uncommitted
Gingrich Threatens GOP's Chance to Nab Independents
The Evangelical Case for Newt Gingrich
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics [ecumenical}
Newt Gingrich on Catholicism and JPII
Why Newt Gingrich Converted to Catholicism
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich Opens Up on Catholic Conversion and Embracing 'Overt Christianity'
Newt Gingrich on his conversion to Catholicism
Gingrich Keeps Quiet on Catholic Conversion (received into Church over the past weekend)
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich conversion details; plans release of JP2 documentary
Gingrich to Become Catholic During Easter Season
The Newt Evangelization: Gingrich to become Catholic
Also, I hang around stupid people too.
Only if Rick agrees to take speaking, debate, and Jaw-Jitsu lessons from Newt. I genuinely fear Obama would smash Rick in a debate. Rick will fail to challenge the premises of the questions and then chase the rabbits the press assigns to him every time.
Rick’s a nice man with a good heart, ....which is true of 100 million other Americans.
Ron Paul is dangerous.
Ron Paul, Soros and Defense
Before everyone gets their panties in a wad. Obama is already starting to make the moves to destroy our military.
Ron Paul will just drive the knife into their backs.
I thought it was clever how the Obama military haters are going to cut Benefits for veterans and wounded soldiers.
Wonder how far enlistment will drop on that one.
One of Ron Pauls best friends is George Soros..
Thank you. Can you direct me to a link that shows the ACTUAL delegate count for each candidate as they are awarded? I know Newt got 75 from GA tonight since GA is a winner talk all state. The Google supposed count had newt with only 72 delegates which means he got nothing in SC??? That is BS!
I also heard that although Santorum won some popular vote he did not win many delegates. I want to see an accurate running total for each candidate as the primaries proceed.
As for my state of FL, the delegates are not secure for Romney as Florida delegates may be awarded proportional in the end. :)
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Mr. Newt will take it all the way to the Convention and he will win there! Time is on his side, and he has the Bold Solutions, and the Bold message. Time will give this to Mr. Newt! I feel it in my heart!
EAGLES UP MR. NEWT!
And Florida delegates are not secure in Romney’s total delegate count, as the Florida delegates may be awarded proportional in the end. :) GO NEWT!
Delegate counting is not an exact science.
Sounds good to me.
Gotta keep diggin- but that’s cool.
Romney v Santorum is one big grasshopper chewing the face off another small one, IMHO. Better to keep it 3-4 way.
Romney is weaker fighting multiple fronts; requires more chameleonism.