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Obama mulls giving Moscow data on missile defense
reuters ^ | 3/6/12 | Jim Wolf

Posted on 03/06/2012 7:02:13 PM PST by ColdOne

(Reuters) - The Obama administration disclosed on Tuesday that it is considering sharing some classified U.S. data as part of an effort to allay Russian concerns about a controversial antimissile shield.

The administration is continuing negotiations begun under former President George W. Bush on a defense technical cooperation agreement with Moscow that could include limited classified data, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Brad Roberts told a House of Representatives' Armed Services subcommittee.

He gave no details on the sort of data that might be shared under such an agreement.

Russia strongly opposes the U.S.-engineered bulwark being built in and around Europe against ballistic missiles that could be fired by countries like Iran.

Moscow fears that such a shield could grow strong enough over time to undermine Moscow's own nuclear deterrent force and has threatened to deploy missiles of its own as a counter.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: impeach; impeachnow; russia; treason

1 posted on 03/06/2012 7:02:16 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: Nachum

For your list.


2 posted on 03/06/2012 7:03:55 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ColdOne

Add treason to Owebama’s high crimes and misdemeanors. .


3 posted on 03/06/2012 7:05:48 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: ColdOne

TREASON — It sure fits the pattern of Obama and his administration.


4 posted on 03/06/2012 7:06:51 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: ColdOne

This bass turd is going to get us all killed! Of course, that’s probably his plan.


5 posted on 03/06/2012 7:07:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the DemocRAT voter base to start paying their "fair share" of taxes.)
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To: ColdOne

Words fail me.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 7:07:22 PM PST by madison10
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To: ColdOne

Wants to destroy all but about 300 of our warheads.

Mulls giving our defense technology to Russia.

This guy should be run out of the nation on a rail.


7 posted on 03/06/2012 7:08:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: ColdOne

Not surprising. After all Clinton gave secrets to the Chicoms. I’m actually surprised the technical specifications haven’t already been shared.


8 posted on 03/06/2012 7:10:10 PM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This cs has to be stopped. I am not sure we can wait until election, by then it may be too late.

We need the House to take action. NOW, but we haven’t got anyone there with any nerve.


9 posted on 03/06/2012 7:11:04 PM PST by Venturer
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10 posted on 03/06/2012 7:12:07 PM PST by narses
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To: ColdOne

To be frank, every single thing Obama has done since taking office, has seemed to this poster to be sabotage.

Every single thing.

Just saying.


11 posted on 03/06/2012 7:14:21 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: ColdOne

If 0!bama was as smart as he pretends to be, he would force Putin and the russkies to follow through with their threatened buildup. Why should we let him bankrupt just us? Let’s run the russians into the ground again!


12 posted on 03/06/2012 7:17:06 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Venturer

I agree. It amazes me we have come to this, and the Republican party’s collective alarm clock still hasn’t gone off.

It seriously makes you wonder what it would take to rile the Republicans and get them off their duff, if this guy hasn’t done it by now.


13 posted on 03/06/2012 7:18:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: ColdOne

First of all, Russia is probably acting like they want it but already have it. Secondly, China would gladly give it to Russia so they don’t need to obtain it officially. Lastly, what reason would 0bama have to give it to Russia other than to further weaken our defensive capabilities?


14 posted on 03/06/2012 7:24:02 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: ColdOne

Why doesn’t Obama just order all our nuclear missiles to be aimed at ourselves, and save the Russians all the time and effort?


15 posted on 03/06/2012 7:28:49 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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To: ColdOne

Why doesn’t Obama just order all our nuclear missiles to be aimed at ourselves, and save the Russians all the time and effort?


16 posted on 03/06/2012 7:28:56 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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To: ColdOne

” - - - (Reuters) - The Obama administration disclosed on Tuesday that it is considering sharing some classified U.S. data as part of an effort to allay Russian concerns about a controversial antimissile shield.”

Is this a good enough reason to Impeach Bolshevik Chairman Obama?


17 posted on 03/06/2012 7:31:38 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ColdOne
... begun under former President George W. Bush ...

Reuters can't resist trying to pin this stupidity on Bush. Come on, guys - grow up - Obama is doing this because he WANTS to do it. Bush has been gone for years.

18 posted on 03/06/2012 7:31:38 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrat-media Complex¬óburied stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: ColdOne
RATS are rodents.

MOLES are rodents.

Is there a connection here?

19 posted on 03/06/2012 7:32:23 PM PST by immadashell
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To: ColdOne

Is there NO ONE IN OUR MILITARY THAT WILL ARREST THIS TREASONIST PRESIDENT? WHAT MORE PROOF DO THEY NEED THAT HE IS THE ULTIMATE ENEMY OF OUR COUNTRY (not to mention holding the office illegally)?


20 posted on 03/06/2012 7:36:36 PM PST by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: ColdOne
Obama mulls giving Moscow data on missile defense

Why not?

After all, Bill and Hillary Clinton gave our top missle technology to China in exchange for some campaign money.

Clinton Administration Gave China Top Nuclear Secrets

21 posted on 03/06/2012 7:37:30 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: DoughtyOne
I can't begin to tell you how absolutely dangerous and foolish these steps are.

hussein is giving away, literally giving away the security of the homeland. This cannot be allowed. Congress needs to get off their collective fat backsides and tell him in no uncertain terms a lifetime in a prison cell awaits him if he follows through with this treasonous plan.

22 posted on 03/06/2012 7:43:21 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ColdOne

Why would we spend money for a shield against Russian missiles then give the data to get around it?

And from the way I read this W started it.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 7:43:34 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

Thanks for the heads up Army Air Corps

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24 posted on 03/06/2012 7:44:38 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I couldn’t agree more. Sadly, the Republican party hasn’t listened to me for decades. We were damned lucky to get Ronald Reagan pushed through against the elite’s wishes.

Since then, whew...


25 posted on 03/06/2012 7:49:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: ColdOne

It’s official-we are all crazy now.

We must be-nothing this man does makes sense.


26 posted on 03/06/2012 7:52:24 PM PST by ottersnot (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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To: ColdOne
Why not just sell America off, state by state to the highest bidder.

I'm sure other things could be auctioned off too!!

27 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:01 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: ottersnot

Of course everything he does make sense. Total sense, since his goal is the destruction of the United States of America.


28 posted on 03/06/2012 7:54:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: ColdOne

Jesus wept.

It’s gotten to the point I hate to even hear his name.


29 posted on 03/06/2012 8:01:28 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ColdOne

Jesus wept.

It’s gotten to the point I hate to even hear his name. The Pretender in Chief that is.


30 posted on 03/06/2012 8:01:48 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ColdOne
A more accurate title:

Obama Plotting Treason!"

31 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:36 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: DoughtyOne
Wants to destroy all but about 300 of our warheads.

We should be glad he wants to destroy them instead of giving them to the russians

32 posted on 03/06/2012 8:16:44 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

He’s not done yet. LOL

With this guy, who knows?


33 posted on 03/06/2012 8:21:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: ColdOne
Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow
Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff

Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.

It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.

He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 — linchpin of our missile defense — might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.

Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...

34 posted on 03/06/2012 8:24:58 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ColdOne
From the campaign trail, February 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[not win it -etl]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert [they are NOT on "hair-trigger alert" now -etl], and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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"I will not weaponize space"

"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"
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2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power

By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008

GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.

Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.

Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."

To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf

35 posted on 03/06/2012 8:25:44 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ColdOne
We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multipolar world,” Chavez told reporters during a visit to Communist China, one of many. His “new world order” includes [RUSSIA], China, Iran,... and a significantly weakened United States, he explained.

Resurgent Communism in Latin America
by Alex Newman, March 16, 2010:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/south-america-mainmenu-37/3122-resurgent-communism-in-latin-america?tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm
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Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama

Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko

"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"

http://www.france24.com/en/20090402-russias-medvedev-hails-comrade-obama

April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090401/wl_afp/usrussiadiplomacynuclear_20090401152002
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President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad.
Note the "soul bro" handshake. (my caption)

Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/17/2698451-obama-chavez-shake-hands-at-americas-summit
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From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:

Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad

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"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
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36 posted on 03/06/2012 8:26:41 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ColdOne
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37 posted on 03/06/2012 8:30:40 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: House Atreides

How about this deal: we keep the missile data and give them O zero.


38 posted on 03/06/2012 9:19:46 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: ColdOne

I don’t understand what gives the Russians so much anxiety
about a missile defense system that, for years, Washington liberals keep insisting won’t work.


39 posted on 03/06/2012 10:01:00 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: ColdOne

Quite clearly, any such act would be treason.

Not that it matters to Hussein, as busy as he is doing his level best to utterly destroy America just as quickly as he can manage it.


40 posted on 03/06/2012 10:01:30 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: ETL

From the article:

“The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology.”

So we’re supposed to just trust the Russians & Obama on this one? Are Obama & Putin going to make a “pinky-promise”?


41 posted on 03/07/2012 12:08:45 AM PST by cinciella
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To: clearcarbon
I don’t understand what gives the Russians so much anxiety about a missile defense system that, for years, Washington liberals keep insisting won’t work.

Just like the "anti-war" movement, the Commie left is behind the "anti-nuke" and anti-missile defense movements. Their 'Useful Idiots' (Liberals) simply follow along. The Commie left know the systems will work. That's why they want them shut down. The naive/ignorant UI libs are duped into actually believing they won't work, much as their duped into thinking the "anti-war" movement is really about peace, love and togetherness. Meanwhile the Commies behind it worship monsters like Mao, Che, Castro and Stalin, while despising the US. Hardly men of peace, love and togetherness. Libs are more stupid than anything else.

42 posted on 03/07/2012 3:16:18 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DoughtyOne

It seriously makes me want to find another party.

The Republicans we elect are not doing what we send them to do.

In fact I don’t see them doing anything.


43 posted on 03/07/2012 4:36:15 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

You sure hit the nail on the head.


44 posted on 03/07/2012 4:40:06 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Venturer

You know, I rake the RNC over the coals continually. It’s not so much it can do everything for us. It’s that it roots for the wrong people. The Republican leadership roots for the wrong people.

Neither of these entities talk up Conservatism or Conservative candidates. That’s where they lose me.

In my own state California, the Republican leadership is invisible. Does it exist or doesn’t it? Who would know? Not a peep comes out of them when good measures are on the ballot. Good candidates come and go. The leadership in the state is mute. Bring on a guy like Schwarzenegger (or more accurately, recruit the guy), and they drop everything to talk him up non-stop.

When the proposition on the ballot offered up open primaries with crossover party voting, the leadership said bupkis. I have no use for these folks. That’s why I said our state would be better off if we expelled them, and blocked re-entry at our border. As for other RINOs from back East, block them too.

We have been betrayed by them for the last time.


45 posted on 03/07/2012 8:28:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: DoughtyOne

In my states of Maryland the Republicans party is also mute.

The National Republican Party ignores us like we do not exist.
National Republican candidates don’t even pay us a visit, and we are right around the corner from DC. I don’t ever remember attending a Republican rally, because I don’t remember a Republican Rally. We did have a few when Charles Lollar ran against Steny Hoyer but they were local GWB didnt bother to come in support of Mr. Lollar against the 2nd highest ranking Democrat in the House.

Idon’t expect we will see any Republican candidate in Md. again this year when our primary is April 3rd.


46 posted on 03/07/2012 8:50:09 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Remember, Citizen: nobama hates you, hates your family, hates your freedom, hates your success, hates Free America, hates Americans, hates the Constitution and hates the Bill of Rights. nobama is the Destroyer . Everything nobama does is intentional. God help us all.
47 posted on 03/07/2012 8:58:47 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Ya got that right hal.


48 posted on 03/07/2012 9:03:24 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I hear ya. Here we are the largest state in the union with near 54 electoral votes, and the only rally here is when a Republican drops in state for a few hours to charge a year’s salary for most citizens, for dinner.

Off he goes, to spend the tens of millions in other states.

All they really deserve is a swift kick in the family jewels.

My state has more Mexican citizens that a number of Mexican states, and this guy won’t even show up to help a Republican candidate for Governor for more than an hour or two, if that.

We are in essence a state without a country. No loud voice comes to California and runs on Conservative ideals. The Republican in-state leaders don’t support Conservative ideals or those who hold them. And then the good citizens of California are blamed for not supporting Conservative ideals NEVER presented to them with a loud assertive voice.

Candidate Simon received almost no support. Had he been elected, the state would have avoided the melt down that led to Schwarzenegger, which led to Jerry Brown two.

The Republican party has nearly destroyed this state. They surrendered it to the Democrats and a third world hovel.


49 posted on 03/07/2012 9:38:57 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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