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Israel is World Leader in Medical Marijuana Use
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 03/06/12 | Lahav Harkov

Posted on 03/07/2012 4:22:54 AM PST by AnTiw1

Anesthesiologist and pain relief expert tells Knesset Committee on Drug Abuse that Israel is leader in the field. By MCT Israel is the world leader in medical marijuana use, anesthesiologist and pain relief expert Dr. Bareket Schiff- Keren told the Knesset Committee on Drug Abuse on Tuesday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; israel; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; medpot; pot; wod; wodlist; wosd
In addition, Israel Police representative Eyal Zilberman told the committee that medical marijuana is being sold on the black market, and the fields to grow the drug are not properly secured to prevent theft.

Approximately 15 tons of medicinal cannabis are stolen each year, police records show.

Most medical marijuana fields do not meet the police’s standards, according to Zilberman, who called the situation “bizarre.” He said that some of the fields are near shopping malls and parks and have low fences, without security cameras or locks.

“Anyone can come in and take what they want,” Zilberman explained. “We warned the Health Ministry that they must close those fields, but nothing happened.”

Committee on Drug Abuse chairman MK Taleb a-Sanaa (UAL-Ta’al) expressed frustration that after two years of meetings on securing medical marijuana fields, the topic still has not been dealt with properly.

“Those who are ill will pay the price for these problems,” he said.

Dr. Yehuda Baruch, who is responsible for coordinating the growth of medical marijuana, warned that without government regulation, use of the drug for medicinal purposes could lead to general legalization of cannabis.

1 posted on 03/07/2012 4:22:58 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1

I wonder if Israeli med marijuana users are like our dope-head med marijuana users that just want to push their dope agenda on us normal folk or are they legitimate?


2 posted on 03/07/2012 4:35:37 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: stuartcr
" ...our dope-head med marijuana users that just want to push their dope agenda on us normal folk..."

who is trying to force "dope" on you?

3 posted on 03/07/2012 4:58:15 AM PST by AnTiw1 (...sailboat bum ready to expatriate...)
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To: AnTiw1

From what I’ve read here over the years, it’s all those med marijuana advocates, especially in California.

Don’t you realise that when people disagree with freepers, it’s oviously because of some Satan-oriented agenda?


4 posted on 03/07/2012 5:07:46 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: AnTiw1

He should have said, “..or is it just a scam to make it available to pot heads?”

Our culture is not in need of a wider array of poisons to stupefy, demotivate, and destroy us.
Legalizing drugs has the effect of telling our kids, it couldn’t be that bad.
Just because alcohol has destroyed many lives, doesn’t mean we’re obligated to expand the buffet.

The canard about undermining the cartels and the mobs is naive.
Is the mob more broke than before legalized gambling?


5 posted on 03/07/2012 5:31:19 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: stuartcr
Medical arguments aside, drug possession has always been defacto legal in Israel. One cannot be cited for personal possession unless they commit another crime. Even if cited, it is a small fine equivalent to a traffic ticket.

Also, they typically smoke hashish there instead of raw pot. It is processed, concentrated pot that is usually stronger than the “super strong new pot” that people claim is evil. Hashish has been used in the region for thousands of years and Israel is one of the most productive and advanced countries in the world. Before Islam, the nearby Arab and Persian countries were also very advanced and productive.

Drug abuse is a symptom of a sick culture and society. Drug laws aimed at the symptom will do nothing to stop it. In fact, they often make it worse and make many people wealthy in the process.

6 posted on 03/07/2012 5:47:17 AM PST by varyouga
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To: G Larry
" Just because alcohol has destroyed many lives, doesn’t mean we’re obligated to expand the buffet. The canard about undermining the cartels and the mobs is naive. Is the mob more broke than before legalized gambling? "

a false comparison, since decriminalization destroys the "mobs'" monopoly with the simple act of dropping a seed into the ground without interference

it is the drug war and US drug war policy alone that permits drug gangs to profit from this weed

i'm glad you cite the dangers of alcohol, if we were "controlling substances" based on their threat to health and society, shouldn't tobacco and alcohol both be prohibited first?

7 posted on 03/07/2012 6:09:46 AM PST by AnTiw1 (Franklin: "where Liberty is, there is my country"...so I'm getting the sailboat ready to look for it)
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To: varyouga
Drug laws aimed at the symptom will do nothing to stop it. In fact, they often make it worse and make many people wealthy in the process.

Taking away those laws would make the same people even richer. Taking away those laws would not stop any of the violence.
One reason the laws don't work is because we have the most porous borders in the world.....and because of liberals and libertarians all those who import the product have a 10-20 year head-start on law enforcement. IE if the Feds take down one 3 mile long border tunnel then there are probably 5 more still operational.
One way to get a handle on things would be to secure our border & lock it up as tight as Iran has it's border for instance.
8 posted on 03/07/2012 6:10:35 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: AnTiw1
a false comparison, since decriminalization destroys the "mobs'" monopoly with the simple act of dropping a seed into the ground without interference

Oh yes, yes!
All those drug kingpins in south america would of course all of a sudden stop importing their product if the US Gov't invalidated drug laws and said everything is legal!
Of course there would be no ongoing turf wars between drug organizations and gangs. There would be no ongoing wars over importation routes.
And most of all?
If the US Gov't began regulating drugs instead of enforcing drug laws all the drug importers would of course say:
"Fudge! Why of course we'll stop using our established super-cheap clandestine importing & selling methods and just start paying ridiculously high import taxes and sales taxes to the US Gov't!"
Oh yes! There would be peace, love, and utopia, and there would be no drug violence ever again and all the giant multi-billion dollar drug enterprises in other countries would respect the US laws all of a sudden and society would become perfect.
We know this because heroin and cocaine and all the illegal pills are EXACTLY like alcohol and prohibition. It's identical. And it would just work because it's worked in all those other countries that did this and they are now perfect utopias.
9 posted on 03/07/2012 6:22:16 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: brent13a
" Oh yes, yes! All those drug kingpins in south america would of course all of a sudden stop importing their product if the US Gov't invalidated drug laws and said everything is legal! Of course there would be no ongoing turf wars between drug organizations and gangs. There would be no ongoing wars over importation routes. And most of all? If the US Gov't began regulating drugs instead of enforcing drug laws all the drug importers would of course say: "Fudge! Why of course we'll stop using our established super-cheap clandestine importing & selling methods and just start paying ridiculously high import taxes and sales taxes to the US Gov't!" Oh yes! There would be peace, love, and utopia, and there would be no drug violence ever again and all the giant multi-billion dollar drug enterprises in other countries would respect the US laws all of a sudden and society would become perfect. We know this because heroin and cocaine and all the illegal pills are EXACTLY like alcohol and prohibition. It's identical. And it would just work because it's worked in all those other countries that did this and they are now perfect utopias "

ok, no more caffeine for this man



10 posted on 03/07/2012 6:53:14 AM PST by AnTiw1 (Franklin: "where Liberty is, there is my country"...so I'm getting the sailboat ready to look for it)
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To: AnTiw1

What part of “Don’t add to the array of poisons” didn’t you understand?

those wanting to “drop a seed into the ground” already do so.

The mobs will stay in the drug biz!
Ever hear the line “I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse.”?


11 posted on 03/07/2012 7:09:13 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: G Larry
" What part of “Don’t add to the array of poisons” didn’t you understand?

everybody can get weed as it is, there is no drug "prevention"

there's only drug prosecution, and that's what gives criminal gangs a monopoly in the first place...

now, don't tell me that went right over your head twice ...

"...those wanting to “drop a seed into the ground” already do so.

what country do you live in?!

' The mobs will stay in the drug biz! Ever hear the line “I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse?”

ok "godfather" show me all the italian mobsters who stayed in the beer business when a six-pack went down to four bucks?

12 posted on 03/07/2012 7:27:12 AM PST by AnTiw1 (Franklin: "where Liberty is, there is my country"...so I'm getting the sailboat ready to look for it)
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To: G Larry

New electronic joints,just like electronic cig’s but with THC are already coming to Market. These will probably dominate the true medical pain relief market in a couple of years, if that long. When you can go to your local parmacy as opposed to a dispensary, it will catch on for grandma and grandpa.


13 posted on 03/07/2012 7:33:01 AM PST by Redak
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To: G Larry
Legalizing drugs has the effect of telling our kids, it couldn’t be that bad.

That's where you, as a parent, step in and say "just because it's legal doesn't mean it's good for you," and then you tell your children honestly what will happen if they abuse drugs.

Why would you abdicate your duties to your children as a parent simply because the criminalizes one substance and not another? You don't expect the government to raise your children for you, do you?

14 posted on 03/07/2012 7:40:57 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: brent13a
Taking away those laws would make the same people even richer.

Economics isn't your strong point, is it . . .

15 posted on 03/07/2012 7:44:46 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: stuartcr
Yes, all dope users are the same the world over, lie cheat and steal and expect you to pay for them.

Hay what the hell man, let's go occupy. Score some good grass, dirty tail and get free food, and no one cares if you. Are dirty and stink.

16 posted on 03/07/2012 7:53:24 AM PST by org.whodat
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The War on Drugs is over. It was lost a long time ago, maybe even before it started becaue we didn’t learn from Prohibition. Keep pushing for it, then whine that we live in a Police State.

FReepers love to say ‘stupid people get the government they vote for.’


17 posted on 03/07/2012 8:03:02 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AnTiw1

“ok, no more caffeine for this man”

Make it illegal - that’s the only solution!


18 posted on 03/07/2012 8:03:53 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: AnTiw1

There are some important, common-sense arguments about marijuana and other drugs, illegal and legal.

1) By far the best true argument that can be made about marijuana to young people is that it makes them slow, dim-witting, dull and uninteresting. Oddly enough, this is a pretty persuasive argument. In 2001, a singer named “Afroman” did a song about how he lost all the good things in his life because he just lived in a marijuana stupor, “Because I Got High”. It is a light and cheery (and a little NSFW) song, that sounds like a party song; but it really hit home to a lot of marijuana users as an effective anti-marijuana song.

2) Marijuana does have so very effective therapeutic uses, especially for some bad, and otherwise incurable eye conditions that result in blindness, and is a standard therapy in Israel to treat PTSD in soldiers. But its premier use is in conjunction with chemotherapy during cancer treatment. It is vital that such patients get good nutrition, and otherwise they cannot even drink water without vomiting.

3) For long the government anticipated that marijuana would cause an epidemic of lung cancer, because it does contain carcinogens. But this did not come about, because it also contains potent anti-cancer chemicals that more than neutralize the effect of the carcinogens.

4) The human brain does not fully mature until the early 20’s. A juvenile or adolescent brain will adapt to many addictive substances far easier than will a mature brain, so for this reason, children should be denied any and all addictive drugs, including caffeine, nicotine and alcohol, as long as possible. If this is prevented in youth, as an adult they will be far less likely to get addicted to anything, and if they do get addicted, it will be far easier for them to break the addiction.

5) Some of the most dangerous drugs available today are pharmaceutical opiates such as hydrocodones and hydromorphones. They are much the same as prescription heroin and are terribly addictive. This is likely to get much worse in the future, because currently such drugs are limited to about 20% opiate, but there are plans to market 100% opiate drugs.

While these will be effective against life threatening pain, the potential for harm is staggering.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 8:05:49 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: brent13a; stuartcr
Taking away those laws would make the same people even richer. Taking away those laws would not stop any of the violence.

Explain. The violence is a guaranteed product of any incredibly profitable uncontrolled black market. The profit IS because of the laws and the risk involved. Simple economics. During alcohol prohibition, alcohol prices and violence skyrocketed. People were blowing themselves up with stills in woods and residential neighborhoods (just like meth labs today). Today there is no gang violence over liquor, almost no dangerous stills making blinding liquor, and no flashy bootleggers (just like dealers today) making huge illegal profits. Legalizing alcohol stopped the violence and illegal profit almost overnight.

Today’s drug prohibition is a hundred times worse than the 1930s. For example, cocaine costs about as much as caffeine powder to produce but can be sold for more than its weight in gold ($50+ per gram). Bootleggers had to smuggle truck loads of bottles(and still got through). Now, the same profit can be made by smuggling a few packets of cocaine inside someone’s stomach.

Pot costs about as much to produce as basil but is worth its weight in $20 bills ($20/gram) to a smoker. It is a literal money tree that any idiot can grow on their own. All one needs is a few square feet of garden or a box no bigger than a nightstand. There is nothing you can do to stop that.

One way to get a handle on things would be to secure our border & lock it up as tight as Iran has it's border for instance.

It would not matter long-term even if you completely closed the borders and airports. Nearly any drug can be produced within the USA if the price is right. Iran cannot stop it and they also execute 500 drug offenders every year. Concealing drugs is incredibly easy and the more they try to secure the border, the higher the profit and incentive to smuggle will be. They conceal drugs inside people, inside every vehicle crevice and scout for unknowing cars entering the US to attach packages to them. If the borders become too tight, they will use virtually undetectable drone aircraft and submarines. I can build a GPS-guided ultralight drone with a 100lb payload for less than the profit of one brick of cocaine.

Drug abuse is a symptom of a society sick at its core and will never, ever be stopped by force. Short of 24/7 surveillance, nothing will even slow it down. Even in North Korea, where people are under constant surveillance, meth is very popular and cheaper than food. Drug laws only enable outlaws to become rich and profit from mentally ill suicidal people willing to pay anything to momentarily escape this society. Law enforcement supports it because it warrants a huge amount of funding with no results to show for it. They also seize dealer's profits for pay raises, new toys and the chance to skim whatever cash is not entered into evidence.

20 posted on 03/07/2012 8:43:13 AM PST by varyouga
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To: AnTiw1

I live in the part of the country that just legalized “medical mj” and the crime surrounding it is at least interesting to watch.

Robberies and burglaries at the outlets.
Unsanctioned growing facilities being busted or robbed.
Mob type “protection rackets”.

Not to mention neighbor kid standing outside our bedroom window, hacking his lungs out in the middle of the night, cuz he’s smoking it in crack pipe.

Do you suppose that 16 yr old is driving while high?
It’s ok....his folks know he smokes....

Its all making the world a better place....

Imagine how impressed he’ll be when they suggest he not try the harder drugs!


21 posted on 03/07/2012 10:18:04 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: G Larry
I live in the part of the country that just legalized “medical mj” and the crime surrounding it is at least interesting to watch.

Robberies and burglaries at the outlets.

Happens with oxycodone, too - should we make that medicine illegal?

Unsanctioned growing facilities being busted or robbed.

That never happened before medical marijuana was legalized?

Mob type “protection rackets”.

That never happened before medical marijuana was legalized?

Not to mention neighbor kid standing outside our bedroom window, hacking his lungs out in the middle of the night, cuz he’s smoking it in crack pipe.

That never happened before medical marijuana was legalized?

Do you suppose that 16 yr old is driving while high?

That never happened before medical marijuana was legalized?

22 posted on 03/07/2012 10:34:08 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: brent13a
it's worked in all those other countries that did this and they are now perfect utopias.

Decriminalization has worked in Portugal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2852352/posts

23 posted on 03/07/2012 10:39:51 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Its ok, the country is going to hell anyway, why not speed it along.

Legalize all the evils of the world, that really helps.

How many of your family members have been destroyed by drugs?

I know, you feel better because the number is equal to those lives destroyed by booze.

All toward a better world .... have fun!


24 posted on 03/07/2012 10:48:01 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry
Its ok, the country is going to hell anyway, why not speed it along.

Nanny-statism is what will speed it along.

Legalize all the evils of the world, that really helps.

Just the ones that violate nobody's rights - that'll help the cause of liberty.

How many of your family members have been destroyed by drugs?

My uncle was destroyed by alcohol - should we make that drug illegal?

25 posted on 03/07/2012 11:01:12 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: AnTiw1
who is trying to force "dope" on you?

Like Fluke's birth control, the government will force everybody to pay for it.

26 posted on 03/07/2012 11:10:05 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Like Fluke's birth control, the government will force everybody to pay for it.

With the thousands of prescribable substances out there, we should keep cannabis off the list because it might become the second one for which the feds mandate a $0 co-pay?

Right.

27 posted on 03/07/2012 11:21:17 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: G Larry
' I live in the part of the country that just legalized “medical mj” and the crime surrounding it is at least interesting to watch.

Robberies and burglaries at the outlets. Unsanctioned growing facilities being busted or robbed. Mob type “protection rackets”. '

actually, a RAND study shows crime lower on blocks near open dispensaries...and the other part, about you secretly watching your neighbors pubescent son at night, i just don't feel professionally qualified to comment on....

28 posted on 03/07/2012 11:24:42 AM PST by AnTiw1 (Franklin: "where Liberty is, there is my country"...so I'm getting the sailboat ready to look for it)
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To: G Larry
" Legalize all the evils of the world, that really helps. How many of your family members have been destroyed by drugs? I know, you feel better because the number is equal to those lives destroyed by booze. "

actually booze and tobacco account for 93% of all deaths due to drug-related illness, killing over a half a million Americans every year...

number of deaths due to marijuana consumption in all of US history: zero .

pssst...y'know, you're the one who's supposed to be winning this debate because you're arguing with brain-dead pot smokers...remember?

29 posted on 03/07/2012 12:46:19 PM PST by AnTiw1 (Franklin: "where Liberty is, there is my country"...so I'm getting the sailboat ready to look for it)
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To: varyouga

So drug abusers are just products of their environment?


30 posted on 03/07/2012 1:23:36 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: AnTiw1

There are many things for which you are unqualified.

Also, not too interested in your RAND study.

In Denver it’s quite clear that crime has increased significantly around the pot shops and grow facilities.

You make light of the kid inhaling super heated smoke, coughing his lungs out, and having no frame of reference for discerning the hazards of harder drugs or driving the family car under the influence.

I’m not concerned with convincing you of anything, but have enjoyed the opportunity to contrast your disinterest with the real hazards associated with the libertarian view.


31 posted on 03/07/2012 5:29:06 PM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry
" There are many things for which you are unqualified. "

i'm heartbroken

" Also, not too interested in your RAND study. "

the Rand Corporation is heartbroken too

" In Denver it’s quite clear that crime has increased significantly around the pot shops and grow facilities. "

you won't care what your police dept thinks either, i'm sure they are shattered as well...

A Denver Police Department analysis estimates that medical- marijuana dispensaries in the city were robbed or burglarized at a lower rate last year than either banks or liquor stores.

The analysis — contained in a memo authored by Division Chief Tracie Keesee for Denver City Council members — finds that the projected robbery and burglary rate for storefront dispensaries in 2009 was on par with that of pharmacies.

The analysis is the first time Denver police have sought to compare crime at dispensaries with that at other businesses, and it represents a best-guess at a crime rate for the city's rapidly evolving dispensary industry. Denver police spokesman John White said he didn't want to speculate on the bigger meaning of the numbers until the department can do a more thorough analysis.

But the memo comes as welcome news to medical-marijuana advocates, who have sought to convince state and local officials that dispensaries are not crime magnets.

"It sounds anecdotally about right," said Matt Brown, with the pro-dispensary group Coloradans for Medical Marijuana Regulation. ". . . Occasionally they happen. (Dispensaries) are by no means immune to crime. But they're far more manageable than some of the public outrage would lead you to believe."

Police departments in other parts of the state — and in other states as well — have reported spikes in medical-marijuana-related crime coinciding with increases in the number of dispensaries in their communities.

Denver police statisticians arrived at the estimated crime rate for dispensaries by looking at the total number of burglaries or robberies reported at storefront dispensaries in 2009 — eight — and projecting what that number would have been had all the dispensaries operating in Denver at the end of the year been open for the full year.

The figures do not include medical-marijuana-related crimes that occurred outside storefront dispensaries — such as robberies of medical-marijuana delivery services or home-based caregivers. Previously, Denver police officials have said there were at least 25 medical-marijuana-related robberies or burglaries in the city in the last six months of 2009.

The projected 16.8 percent burglary and robbery rate for dispensaries is equal to that of pharmacies. It's below the 19.7 percent rate of liquor stores and the 33.7 percent rate for banks, the analysis found. (Source: Denver Post)

You make light of the kid inhaling super heated smoke, coughing his lungs out, and having no frame of reference for discerning the hazards of harder drugs or driving the family car under the influence.

actually i made light of a twisted frightened little man who stares all night at little boys thru his windowshades like a sick freak...if you want to be specific

"I’m not concerned with convincing you of anything "

you were until you lost your argument...several times

" but have enjoyed the opportunity to contrast your disinterest with the real hazards associated with the libertarian view. "

awww...and after all that effort to make yourself appear like you actually had a point...

32 posted on 03/07/2012 7:12:08 PM PST by AnTiw1 (Franklin: "where Liberty is, there is my country"...so I'm getting the sailboat ready to look for it)
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To: AnTiw1

None of that nonsense concludes there is less crime in those neighborhoods than before the pot shops were there.
They simply tumble to your equivalence meme.
Regarding the neighbor kid....his hacking his lungs out wakes us, but you seem to get a kick out of insinuating some motive to me.
Typical liberal tactic of avoiding the issue you’ve lost the argument.

There is no argument for increasing the array of poison available to society,
or pretending some good results from it.


33 posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:05 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry
" There is no argument for increasing the array of poison available to society, or pretending some good results from it. "

and your argument is specious because with maximum enforcement weed delivery arrives faster than dominos

and show me one fr member who has so many posts on multiple threads referring to their covert surveillance of an underage neighbor boy...last month you suspected him of smoking /sleeping in your car iirc

you should change your nick to "larry the peeper"

34 posted on 03/08/2012 6:15:28 AM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my country.")
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To: AnTiw1

Do lies and slander make you seem more authoritative?

Since my car is garaged, I would make no such claim.

Your brain damage is showing.


35 posted on 03/08/2012 7:07:52 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry
" Your brain damage is showing. "

well, the undamaged part of my brain remembers the multiple times you posted, specifically, of watching a 16yo neighbor boy nightly thru your windowshades...and since you yourself refer to it, you're confirming that

if it wasn't creepy i wouldnt have mentioned..it is creepy, and you own it

rather be brain damaged than a peeper in the closet ;^)

36 posted on 03/08/2012 8:11:45 AM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my country.")
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To: AnTiw1

Here is what I “own”.

A debate opponent, so incapable of arguing on the merits, that he lies to create false impressions.

As though it is abnormal to investigate loud noise outside your residence at night.
It’s “creepy” to investigate?
It’s “creepy” to identify and report the cause?

No, it is sick to refuse to acknowledge behavior has consequences.

It is ignorant to pretend that behavior has no consequences to the surrounding society.

The way you take the “creepy” out of it, is by going outside and hollering at him, loud enough for his parents to hear, that if he doesn’t knock it off, you’re calling the cops.
That undermines his “parental consent” argument and motivates the parents to get back in the parenting role.


37 posted on 03/08/2012 10:09:46 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

(whisper to room) oh, no, he’s not obsessed /s

lol


38 posted on 03/08/2012 10:37:04 AM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my country.")
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