Yeah, but the way the Brits are going to town hell bent for leather on diversity, it will be known only as that rainy prayer rug... 
north-northwest of Mecca!
And if The Obamanation gets re-elected... 
we will not be far behind--
Posted on 03/07/2012 8:13:43 AM PST by bayouranger
It’s always refreshing when mainstream-media bigwigs are actually honest about the prejudices that guide their institutions. So one could only applaud when Mark Thompson, director-general of the BBC, admitted the other day something that is already obvious to anyone who watches or listens to the Beeb – namely, that the folks who run the shop are as quick to broadcast works that mock Christianity as they are to forbid the mockery of, shall we say, certain other faiths, and that the main reason is, quite simply, fear.
Thompson actually gave three reasons for the BBC’s all-religions-are-not-created-equal policy. First, he said that the BBC treats Christianity differently from other faiths because, as “an established part of our cultural-built landscape,” it is “pretty broad shouldered” – whatever that means. Second, certain other religions have a “very close identity with ethnic minorities” who may feel that an attack on their beliefs is “racism by other means” – whatever that means. Third, and obviously most decisive in determining the Corporation’s policy, Christians and adherents of at least one of those “other” religions have, shall we say, rather divergent ways of reacting to insults to their religion. “Without question,” Thompson said, “’I complain in the strongest possible terms’ is different from ‘I complain in the strongest possible terms and I am loading my AK47 as I write.’”
Thompson said that this distinction “definitely raises the stakes.” Yes, and it also separates the men from the boys. When the most powerful media organization in the U.K. is run by someone whose readiness to admit his utter lack of courage would seem, from all the evidence, to reflect the fact that the concept of courage isn’t even on his radar, it doesn’t bode well for the future of British freedom.
Another point that was important to Thompson was that, as he put it, “for a Muslim, a depiction…of the Prophet Mohammed might have the emotional force of a piece of grotesque child pornography.” He added that “secularists” fail “to understand…what blasphemy feels like to someone who is a realist in their religious belief.” I would humbly submit that Thompson himself fails to understand something rather important – namely, that when the head of an outfit like the BBC starts thinking and talking in such terms, he has become nothing more or less than a sharia puppet.
Another thing Thompson apparently fails to understand is this: when it becomes the duty of citizens in a secular democracy to edit what they say or write in order to avoid committing what the adherents of some religion or other might consider blasphemy, then secular democracy, individual liberty, and freedom of expression are, in practice, no more. I wonder if it has occurred to Thompson at all that for more than a few freedom-loving people in his own country and elsewhere, the fact that a man in his position could follow such an outrageously pusillanimous policy might well, to coin a phrase, “have the emotional force of a piece of grotesque child pornography”?
I further wonder what kind of emotional force this story has for a person like Thompson. Here’s what happened: David Jones, creator of a popular children’s character in Britain and, apparently, a perfectly respectable man of sixty-seven, was going through security at Gatwick the other day when, according to the Telegraph, “he spotted a Muslim woman in hijab pass through the area without showing her face” and, in a “light-hearted aside to a security official who had been assisting him,” said: “If I was wearing this scarf over my face, I wonder what would happen.”
Kapow! Poor Mr. Jones spent the next hour or so being lectured about what he was and was not allowed to say by an airline official, a police officer, and several security guards, one of whom identified herself as a Muslim and told him she was “deeply distressed” by his comment. Of course it was Jones who was being unjustly harassed and who had every right to feel “deeply distressed,” but, as he later pointed out, “Something like George Orwell’s 1984 now seems to have arrived in Gatwick airport,” so that it is now considered reasonable for individuals in positions of power to claim that they are being caused “distress” by the very people whom they, in an outrageous abuse of power, are in the very process of tormenting. The cop on the scene even instructed Jones “that we now live in a different time and some things are not to be said.”
For a prime example of how the BBC deals with the fact that “we now live in a different time,” by the way, check out this report by the Beeb’s Stacey Dooley. The premise of the piece is that Dooley is visiting her hometown, Luton, to discover if the situation with extreme Islam is really as bad there as some people say. Upon arriving in town, she stumbles upon a Muslim march whose participants are chanting “To hell with the U.K.” and carrying signs calling for sharia law. There are plenty of women in niqab, one of whom tells Dooley to put on some clothes. For a while you think that Dooley is actually going to wake up and smell the coffee. But in the end, ignoring everything she’s witnessed, the little ditz closes with the standard, canned, de rigueur, mainstream-media conclusion – namely, that both sides need to listen to each other with respect, for the only reason for all this intercultural friction is “ignorance.”
Given the deliberate, depressing refusal of so many members of the British media to face up to the advent of sharia in the land of Magna Carta and Winston Churchill, it was at least a bit cheering the other day to see Brendan O’Neill, in the Telegraph, spelling out the dramatic, and telling, difference between the way in which the framers of the U.S. Constitution understood the concept of rights and the way today’s European leaders think about the same subject.
While the makers of the American revolution “emphasized individuals’ capacity to make judgments…free from state interference,” explained O’Neill, Europe today is plagued by a “paternalistic” notion of human rights “in which the individual is treated as an at-risk creature who must be protected from harm and bullying by…human-rights lawyers.” While the U.S. Bill of Rights concisely sets limits on state power, the European Convention on Human Rights “spends thousands of words telling the state what it should be doing…and how it must go about protecting individuals from abuse and mental distress.” And while the U.S. Bill of Rights makes it clear that free speech is sacrosanct, the European document is awash in weasel words, saying that “freedom of expression” is “subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety,” and on and on.
Which is, of course, simply a very long and legalistic way of saying that in Europe today, even (alas) in Britain, freedom of speech is severely endangered – just as Mark Thompson (whether he realizes it or not) has essentially admitted, and as David Jones experienced at Gatwick, and as the BBC’s own Stacey Dooley, despite having seen reality close-up in her hometown of Luton, still refuses to grasp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzWdJhw-aE&feature=player_embedded
islam thrives off of ignorance and murders in its' shadow.
Indeed, but I do take SOME heart in realizing that if books like “The Emporer Has No Clothes” and “1984” have been written in the past it tells me that this stupidity has long been a feature of some classes of people. The pendulum will swing.
Current predictions are the Muzzies will be in full control of the UK by 2038.
Time to nuke the island from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
> Will There Always Be an England?
Do you mean Britistan?
“Do you mean Britistan?”
I thought they were going to call it Muzzland?
Yeah, but the way the Brits are going to town hell bent for leather on diversity, it will be known only as that rainy prayer rug... north-northwest of Mecca!
And if The Obamanation gets re-elected... we will not be far behind--
Just hit any urban conurbation over 10,000 people, with a small warhead, job done.
Drop us a FReepmail before you do it. :)
Cops have been sent to doors of people who have dared to criticize Islam. This is a nation in decline.
Britain just doesn’t have the will to live.
Then I read Sir Walter Scott's book. Scott was entirely sympathetic to his character Isaac of York. Scott's Isaac was a misunderstood character just trying to get by in a prejudiced England.
So BBC went out of its way to rewrite a Jewish character to their classic European antisemitic view.
mark
I remember “England”. Didn’t they have knights and such before they became a province of the Middle East?
Face the facts: the “English” English have no guts whatsoever.
I am sure the English thought there would always be an England ruled by the English - the Romans showed them they were wrong.
I am sure the Saxons thought there would always be a Saxon England - they were wrong - as the Normans showed them.
I am sure the Normans thought there would always be a Norman England ruled by a French speaking elite - they were wrong.
What’s the lesson to be drawn from this?
TERRORISM WORKS!
“The cop on the scene even instructed Jones “that we now live in a different time and some things are not to be said.” “
Thank God that we in the U.S. not that far down the road. One would have to be at a college campus to hear words like that.
Because when you have a national church when the government is infected with liberalism there is no sepration and you end up with a FAR faster decay in the culture. Look at all the empty churches in England.
Hopefully not having a state church will provide at least more insulation from liberalism and progresivism for the USA. We will see though.
By now being over fifty years absent from my native country England, I feel resigned to the inevitable. However there are past histories of a complacent peoples suddenly turning against tyranny. The tyranny of political correctness is so insidious and creeps in almost unnoticed initially. I run the risk of being accused of preaching, but will take the chance.
America profited by the writings of Tom Paine. Tom informed his new compatriots of the excesses in his own native country and in France. The Founding Fathers were determined not to fall into the ways of Europe. Thus the Constitution.
Ok. England is the bell wether - the portent of what will be and indeed is being tried in small doses in America. Canada thinly populated and a vast country, has the islamists so thin on the ground, that it shrugs off the outrages of these persons. 15 million dollars to a Syrian man, because the Mounties told the Americans he was on a watch list. He was deported to Syria, when he landed in New York. On release, after being tortured and confined, they dare not even give him a medical exam to prove what he said happened. It goes on, but people shrug it off.
A half mad Iranian ex-fighter pilot in Ontario rants and raves sheer hatred on the internet. People have had breakdowns over the man. Nothing done. Christians threatened and investigated at will, for politically incorrect statements. This concerning Islam and paradoxically homosexuality. Excuse the rant, but only America is left. The others do not see, except maybe the State of Israel.
I am sure the English thought there would always be an England ruled by the English - the Romans showed them they were wrong.
I am sure the Saxons thought there would always be a Saxon England - they were wrong - as the Normans showed them.
I am sure the Normans thought there would always be a Norman England ruled by a French speaking elite - they were wrong.
We can only hope the Brits can push past the PC carp and re-find their spines...
TORONTO – Europe is headed for widespread civil war, and the politicians responsible should be tried for treason, declared Paul Weston, chair, British Freedom Party. Weston spoke to the Jewish Tribune following an appearance at the Zionist Centre last week. He warned of a coming violent clash between those who embrace Western values and those who reject them. Islamic extremists are the biggest component of the latter group, he said. “We are going to have a continental-size civil war that nobody can stop,” Weston said. “When Yugoslavia broke up, the UN and America could stop it. If the whole continent of 500 million people kicks off, how is anybody going to stop it? “When you have two such disparate cultures as post-Christian England, and a radically fanatical Islam that’s been imported, you’re going to end up with trouble…. I think it’s probably only two decades away.” Although civil war is inevitable, Weston said, he will try to avert it in Britain. To this end, his party would stop immigration from third-world countries, deny welfare to immigrants, and insist that all children receive a solid British education in English. He added that his party would also hold politicians responsible for policies of mass immigration, which have resulted in a diminishment of native European populations and cultures, and which he predicted will cause as many deaths as occurred in World War II. “All of the European politicians who’ve actually brought this about should be tried…like at the Nuremburg trials…because what they’ve done is the most wicked act of treason in the history of mankind. “What these people have done in our country today will murder millions and millions of people before the next few decades are out.” The British Freedom Party was started in 2010 by three people who were expelled from the British National Party because they opposed race-based policies, said Weston, and he agreed to head the new party after they stepped down. The British Freedom Party promotes the idea that culture, and not race, is what matters most in a society, said Weston. Weston’s speech was well-received by an audience of about 80 people. In his speech, he said his party wanted to “bring a complete halt to the Islamization of Britain.”
I stumbled across a small organization in England. They are displaying the old banner of the red cross on a white backround. The original flag of England. They are called MOSQUE BUSTERS. They attempt to out city councils who quietly pass legislation for a new mosque to be built.
Already a disused army barracks slated for a mosque building has be rejected in Luton.
I have not yet got my facts together, but there is also an organization called LAW AND FREEDOM FOUNDATION. Heading it is a lawyer Gavin Boby. I do not know whether it is directly connected with "mosque busters".
Amberdawn mentions 1984. I remember the despair of one of the characters over Big Brother. He said "the only hope is in the proles". I presume today that might be the much hated hard men, who still exist. One hopes someone can get it together. Harness the despair and turn it to action- hopefully without bloodshed.
This man has it right. I hope he survives to see himself vindicated for he is surely correct. Not all Europeans will acquiesce to this madness of cultural suicide as proscribed by the bureaucrats on the continent and in Britain. The situation is already getting intolerable. Civil war sooner rather than later would mitigate the damage. As it stands the problem appears to be too large to deal with any other way. I also hope this doesn’t come back to haunt us here in the US as we are forever riding in to the rescue of our feckless western allies. Luckily we can watch this from afar and hopefully stop our current ways of encouraging this type of immigration.
I rarely ping anyone, not everybody appreciates it. Hope it is ok. Anyway certainly pertinent to this thread.
I’m glad you resurrected that. :)
I ‘ve following through on that, a bit....I heard from Mr. Boby Sending you his note/reply in a FReepmail.
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2011/06/12/new-mosque-time-to-lawyer-up/ http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/2011/09/13/round-one-to-us-in-uxbridge/ 
Mosques are not just places of worship; they have many more functions and have done since the time of Mohammed. You can read about the role of the mosque in the excellent book ‘The Mosque Exposed’ by S Solomon and E Alamaqdisi. The ‘Undercover Mosque’ programme revealed the level of hatred in the mosques that it infiltrated.
I, too, hope it is without bloodshed, but from what I’ve read and heard, it seems that violence is inevitable. All of my life I have wondered how people could go on the warpath to get their way, believing that surely, common sense must prevail. Now I know why violence is cyclical-it’s because our “betters” seem to think they can meld human nature to their vision of the world. People are hardwired to flock together and while SOME adjustment to the ways of “others” is fine, the wholesale transformation the Left, and many muslims, want to see in our countries is a recipe for disaster.
I am encouraged by presumably, a few allies of the Muslim faith on side with the real tolerance and adaptability. In WW2, though we as kids were told all Germans supported Hitler, not quite true. I don't know how many kept their mouths shut and hoped to survive. It may have been substantial. Those few that spoke out. were sent to concentration camps with the Slavic people and the Jews.
I see a similarity with the few of that faith, that have the fatwa or other on them by these psychos. Some of them are women.
The battle continues.
I have to say that it is cogent and well put. Yes, I know both sides of our border well. Ontario and Michigan which are so stable and well organized. No bombs, no mobs, no brutal military etc. I thank my lucky stars for my children and grandchild's sake. Young people may get a little bored some times and I would urge them to get out and see some of the world. Of course some of that is downright dangerous these days.
I am trying to say all of us surely do not want any volatile religious fanaticism in our North American world. Let the sycophants who talk of multiculture and diversity, go where they will find how much THEY will be tolerated.
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