~Newt Gingrich
Posted on 03/07/2012 10:33:59 AM PST by VinL
Yeah, I understand. That’s politics.
This is funny in more ways than one. Why is he standing at a 12.5 degree angle from the vertical?
~Newt Gingrich
Vin, we've been through this before. He did. Gingrich declined.
Paying Newt to be beat up by millions in lying negative ads? Come on now...use your brain.
Newt likely still has the big Mo after Super Tuesday. Santo was lucky that Gingrich didn’t have another week in campaigning before March 6 as Newt would have flipped Oklahoma and made Santo sweat in Tennessee.
Ok, I will put it another way. I look at Gingrich and Santorum, and I see a man and a boy. One, who has accomplished great things for this country, a proven leader. In the other I see an aspiring politician who maybe can lead but is unproven.
I look at Gingrich and Romney and I see one who is a proven leader,and American historian and patriot. The other I see as Obama lite and a used car salesman.
I'm just saying this is no time for guess work. It's no time to have noobs in training. I am going with Gingrich who has proven that he can lead.
Do you think Bob Dole will come out in person Saturday for Romney? A lot of KS people are establishment Republicans and have been for generations going back to Alf Landon.
Newt is a better debater than Rick. Rick is a better man than Newt.
SnakeDoc
I’m with Newt. If he were to drop out before my state goes, I’m skipping the primary because I don’t like the libertarian or the two RINOs. Will vote for whomever the GOP puts against Obama in the general election.
I have a vague recollection of some discussion in that regard, but if memory serves, I requested evidence of Newt’s refusal to debate- none was forthcoming. If you have that evidence, I would be pleased if you would present.
There’s public record that Rick ran from the ga debate- and, public record that he’s uncertain if he has the courage to to face Newt in the Oregon debate. I understand- he’s not a great debater- and his last debate in Arizona was difficult for him. I don’t blame him for avoiding them- smart politics.
Anyway, if you have a source that demonstrates that Newt declined to debate Rick- I’d love to see it. Thanks.
Always happy to share the love...
Do you think Bob Dole will come out in person Saturday for Romney? A lot of KS people are establishment Republicans and have been for generations going back to Alf Landon.
That is an awful thought. Of course all the other RINOs supported Romney so why not him. Actually I don’t know if he was a RINO or not but if he endorses Romney I will think he is.
Pretty sly, Joe. You say Newt declined the Lincoln Douglas Debate, but you failed to mention the fact that Newt had already “carried” Rick in a “one on one” debate.
Obviously Newt declined so as not to embarrass junior again.
Look, there’s not a person on the Board who doesn’t know that rickie doesn’t want to debate Newt— let’s just accept the facts and leave it there, my friend.
-:)
"Carried"?!?!? Have you watched the so-called debate on You-Tube? Not the case at all, but since I've had to explain it so many times already, one more is not an issue.
Newt and Rick had a sit-down round table in NH back in early November. At the time, neither was doing well in the polls, and both were trying to get any notice they could with Cain getting all the attention at the time. While it was called a "debate," it was really little more than a polite, general discussion of the issues.
As November moved on, Cain started taking hits and falling in the polls. At the same time, Newt started making his debate prowess the centerpiece of his campaign, and he started touting how he would follow Obama around the country from campaign stop to campaign stop. Newt challenged Romney trying to get some more traction, but Romney turned him down. Newt agreed to a one-on-one with Huntsman, which was not a sit-down roundtable, but a formal debate. Rick challenged Newt to the same type venue, and Newt declined.
There's no way to spin that.
While it was called a “debate,” it was really little more than a polite, general discussion of the issues.
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Forget it joe— I saw the Newt/Cain and Newt/ Huntsman “debates”, and they were as above described— as would any 1 on 1 against Rick.
Anyway, on a thread I just posted, ricky just backed off asking Newt to withdraw. Joe, doesn’t he ever stand his ground? -:)
Newt declines debate with Santorum "because they already had one" = OK
Santorum declines debate with Newt "because they already had one"(and Rick asked for a second) = Rick running away
That's Kucinich logic.
That will be too late, and everyone knows it. Romney will be fitted for his crown by the Ca. primary if Newt remains a stalking horse credible only to the unsophisticated.
That’s right. As you state, the “debate” Rick asked for was- by your own words a “love fest”— no cowards in a love fest.
We all know that Rick is backing down because debates at this stage are wars— as ricky saw in Ar.
Go to a Santorum town meeting, and you will feel foolish. Rick is tough as nails, and is a lone wolf fighting for our freedom and individual sovereignty. Bob
Tough as nails? Well, trying to get through one of his speeches is as tough as listening to nails on a chalkboard, all right.
I don’t think he’s being paid. I retract that remark. But I do think that pride is getting in the way of Newt’s common sense now. He WILL take enough votes away from Rick to guarantee Lying Liberal Romney an easy road.
If you noticed, Newt’s speech last night was not his finest. Fatigue has led both Rick and Mitt to stammer sometimes, but I think that Rick’s speech last night was quite moving. Mitt’s was boilerplate. Talk about a dull message.
The only conclusion to draw is that those who now accuse Rick of being a "chicken" for declining Newt's latest challenge are themselves, the ones guilty of intellectual cowardice, afraid to confront the reality that Newt had his chance when Rick challenged him, and he turned it down.
No worries- Joe- if that’s want you believe- that’s fine.
It wasn’t Newt’s best, but it had a lot of nice moments and was a nice historical recap of Newt’s primary adventure so far. Rick’s was the definition of boilerplate and was just plain dull. It’s also just a waste of time and pandering to constantly have Rick line up his whole family as props on the stage and talk about them. I’ve never been asked in a job interview about my family and I care as much about hearing about Rick’s family as my job interviewers cared about mine. The presidency is the toughest job in the world and wasting time on his family just makes Rick look smaller and less qualified to me.
Somewhere along the line the space-time continuum was disrupted and we're now in a alternate universe.
I agree that Santorum is tough and a fighter, but what I don't know is if he can lead and accomplish what needs to be done when confronted with the liberal resistance that awaits in Washington. Newt has had that confrontation already and he succeeded greatly. I will go with what I know. It's not a time to break in newbies.
But actually I watched Rick on Greta tonight. And to his credit he did not say when asked that Newt should drop out.
Gingrich would be far more likely to endorse Romney than Santorum.
I believe if Gingrich drops, Santorum will never see another delegate.
>> I’m in Mississippi and I’m all in for Newt Gingrich and going to see him tomorrow!
Lucky you! It’s an imperative that he gets the nomination.
Go Newt!!!
He’s trailing by one delegate. Be real.
Newt has taught military strategy at War Colleges.
He no doubt realizes where he can win big and where he cannot easily bring in delegates.
That would be my guess.
Yesterday was so painful. Our primary finally arrived, and I couldn’t vote for Newt. Maybe, God willing, I can in November.
The discussion you two are having is a prime example why I never married. Sheesh!
Hmm...I don’t think Gingrich believes Romney is the best candidate, nor will he endorse him before the end of the convention in Tampa.
What Gingrich HAS said, is that any of the four Republican candidates is preferable to BHO2.
I’m with you Onyx, I’m from MS also and support Newt.
[Newt is a better debater than Rick. Rick is a better man than Newt.]
Oh come now. There are many lesser men who have stood in the breach and made a difference when it counted. I think Gingrich is standing pretty tall right now.
Texas is Newt Country!
Gingrich is standing fine right now. So is Rick. I’d vote for either ... but we’d be better off with one or the other. Not both. One of them needs to get out of the way. Gingrich is the logical choice to move over and endorse. He can’t win.
I still don’t have a good answer to the question “If his own wife(s) can’t trust him, why should I?”
SnakeDoc
The last polls I saw had Rick Santorum leading in Texas. I think that was in late February, though.
SnakeDoc
If Newt had won seven states and Rick two while performing poorly in virtually all others, then NEWT would be my candidate right now. The system has been rigged (look at VA), so we need a one-on-one bout right now to focus people’s attention on the conservative v. liberal message. Mitt’s millions are saturating tight states, and side issues such as the fight for second need to end. Bob
Good to hear!
LLS
Romney has little chance in the deep south, a region of traditional values.
I thought Romney that did that by spending $17 million on negative ads against him in Florida.
You are entitled to your opinion.
There is little doubt that democrats are fueling Rick especially in places like Michigan and Ohio. It was a fact if you look at their blogs. The democrats really relish either Mitt Romney or Rick Santorum. They fear Newt Gingrich. Is fairly plain for anyone who has followed politics for half a century like I have. The democrats have been setting up Romney for over a year. In the last couple of months they have pivoted to Rick Santorum to hedge their bets. Either one and it is a easy walk for Obama. Newt would kick butt, and they know it.
Jan. 31, 12
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“Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign announced a new television ad that will begin airing Tuesday in Colorado and Nevada.
The ad attacks Newt Gingrich as being too liberal for the GOP nomination by arguing that he shares many policy positions with President Obama and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). “All three supported radical cap and trade legislation that would destroy American jobs and drive up energy costs. All three supported giving illegal aliens some form of amnesty. All three sported the government health mandates which take away our freedom and is the core of ObamaCare. And all three of these politician’s supported the Wall Street bailouts that was a slap in the face to the Tea Party,” the narrator says.
It goes on to refer to the trio as “cap and trade loving, bailout supporting, soft on immigration, big-government mandating politicians.” The commercial is a sharp indictment of Gingrich, with whom Santorum has split more conservative voters in early primary contests.
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