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Obama: Auto rule saves $8k 'a year.' Hmm.
politico ^ | 3/7/12 | GLENN THRUSH

Posted on 03/07/2012 4:21:26 PM PST by ColdOne

A verbal typo by President Obama at today’s Mt. Holly, N.C. speech, but a self-serving one that warrants a quick correction:

“Now, because of these new standards for cars and trucks, they're going to -- all going to be able to go further and use less fuel every year. And that means pretty soon you’ll be able to fill up your car every two weeks instead of every week -– and, over time, that saves you, a typical family, about $8,000 a year,” Obama said.

“We like that!” shouted an audience member.

“You like that, don't you?” Obama replied.

Except it’s not true.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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1 posted on 03/07/2012 4:21:29 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

righhhht... this is why the Volt costs more than my wife’s Porsche Cayenne?


2 posted on 03/07/2012 4:24:10 PM PST by mnehring
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To: ColdOne

If it were as easy as that to increase fuel economy, and if it provided worthwhile benefits to consumers, auto companies would increase fuel economy on their own in order to lure customers. We would not need CAFE standards.


3 posted on 03/07/2012 4:24:50 PM PST by arista
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To: ColdOne

Maybe he knows something we don’t know about the price of fuel.........


4 posted on 03/07/2012 4:26:33 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ColdOne

In all 57 states?


5 posted on 03/07/2012 4:26:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ColdOne

OK, so when gasoline skyrockets like he wants it to, they’ll pay $85,000 a year on gas instead of $93,000. Nice.


6 posted on 03/07/2012 4:27:04 PM PST by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: mnehring

righhhht... this is why the Volt costs more than my wife’s Porsche Cayenne?

Shut the Front Door! Is that true?
I was looking at those Cayennes...nive car.


7 posted on 03/07/2012 4:27:34 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: ColdOne

$8K a year in savings? This guy is a freaking dunce. If this had been President Bush he would be excoriated.

But Mr Algae gets (yet another) pass.


8 posted on 03/07/2012 4:27:37 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Liberal Democrats love direct democracy until it's time to vote on something)
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To: mnehring

righhhht... this is why the Volt costs more than my wife’s Porsche Cayenne?

Shut the Front Door! Is that true?
I was looking at those Cayennes...nice car.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 4:27:47 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: ColdOne

Damn, we could save twice as much if only the government would have raised CAFE standards to 100 mpg. If there was a demand for fuel efficient cracker-jack Smart cars, the auto companies would be building them.


10 posted on 03/07/2012 4:30:19 PM PST by wfu_deacons
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To: jessduntno

Her’s is the early generation that was basically a VW with Porsche badges. (still a great car, got it used of course). We are looking at the new ones now.

It is just an example of what you can get when you cross that $40K barrier.


11 posted on 03/07/2012 4:30:32 PM PST by mnehring
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To: ColdOne

That’s like when he told Hispanics he saved them $40 PER PAYCHECK by having the SS tax reduction extended. $40 would be the tax reduction on $2000 gross wages. So if those folks got paid weekly they would they would be making $104,000 annually according to him.


12 posted on 03/07/2012 4:30:55 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: ColdOne

Quick math tells 8,000 a year is about 157 dollars a week....saving ?

The guy is a dumbass....or gas is going to be 10 dollars a gallon


13 posted on 03/07/2012 4:34:31 PM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: ColdOne

“A verbal typo...”

Is that what we’re calling a lie nowadays?


14 posted on 03/07/2012 4:35:44 PM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: ColdOne
Baloney. I spent $8500 in 2009 for a Kawasaki Versys motorcycle. It has gone over 16,000 since purchase (with lots of idle time when I rode my Harley over 12,000 miles). The Kawasaki gets 53 MPG. Nominally 300 gallons burned. At $3.50/gallon, that's $1050 in gasoline. I paid $8500 for my used Harley in June 2010. It gets 46 MPG. Another 260 gallons of gas for $913. The "auto rules" have zero influence on what I paid for the vehicles or their operating cost. What is clear is that those "rules" couldn't save me $8,000 a year. I could buy another bike and keep it fully fueled for that kind of money. My total fuel cost was $1963 for 28,000 miles traveled on the two bikes. Average of 7 cents per mile for gasoline.
15 posted on 03/07/2012 4:38:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ColdOne

Well, he’s partially telling the truth.

Real cars will be outlawed when they can’t meet the future physics-defying requirements and some new “cash-for-clunkers” scheme will wipe out existing cars.

O thinks your family will ride mass transit, save $8000 by not having a car and kiss his feet for saving the planet.


16 posted on 03/07/2012 4:41:22 PM PST by varyouga
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To: ColdOne
"“We like that!” shouted an audience member....as he wiped the drool from his bearded chin."
17 posted on 03/07/2012 4:45:58 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: jessduntno

Look at the resale of those things! WOW! Talk about THROWING your money away. Buy one that is a few years old for sure.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 4:48:08 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: ColdOne

Kind of ironic that he goes to a German company to campaign for re-election. This is the jobs President?


19 posted on 03/07/2012 4:49:45 PM PST by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: Popman
The guy is a dumbass....or gas is going to be 10 dollars a gallon

Oil and gas look kinda toppy to me right now, but eventually the way the Fed is printing money, we should see a $200 Happy Meal. I just don't think it's going to happen tomorrow.

20 posted on 03/07/2012 4:56:04 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ColdOne

Wait. To save $8,000 a year would be a savings of $153.85 a week, so since I only spend about $42 a week, where do I pick up my check for the $111.85 weekly.


21 posted on 03/07/2012 4:57:42 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: ColdOne

Obama you ignorant slut. /snl


22 posted on 03/07/2012 5:03:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Popman
The guy is a dumbass....or gas is going to be 10 dollars a gallon

Can I say,"BOTH"?

23 posted on 03/07/2012 5:05:50 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ColdOne

The idiots haven’t caught on to the fact that they won’t be able to afford a car at all before long.


24 posted on 03/07/2012 5:14:23 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: csmusaret
Kind of ironic that he goes to a German company to campaign for re-election.

He's just preparing for his plan to re-name the Volt the Voltswagon.

25 posted on 03/07/2012 5:36:58 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: ColdOne

Vapors


26 posted on 03/07/2012 5:43:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Look at the resale of those things! WOW! Talk about THROWING your money away. Buy one that is a few years old for sure.”

You mean the Cayenne? Really bad? See, if it is mine, not the family car, I hang on to them so long, that the resale is not as big a deal...but if it’s horrible, I stay away from them.


27 posted on 03/07/2012 6:00:37 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Look at the resale of those things! WOW! Talk about THROWING your money away. Buy one that is a few years old for sure.”

In fact, I still have my 95 T-bird 4.6 for a back up car. MY daily driver is a Ford Fusion Sport (which I have had for 2 years and like, but even with the good engine it leaves me feeling the need for speed). When I pull up next to one of the Priii (especially one of the insufferably green Prius owners) in the T-Bird, they get visibly ill.


28 posted on 03/07/2012 6:04:08 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: ColdOne

Lets see. If I drive 16,000 miles a year, and get 20 mpg because of Bush, and I buy a new car and get 40 mpg because of His Green Holiness, and I now use 400 gallons instead of 800 gallons, and thus save 400 gallons of gas, which is 8000 dollars - gas is $20/gallon.

Thank you, Your Green Holiness! You have saved us all!


29 posted on 03/07/2012 6:04:08 PM PST by heartwood
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To: ColdOne

Where does he get his dollar figures? Does he ever think about the reasonableness of anything he says? Did he ever think about how many gallons of gas you would have to buy to spend $8,000 a year and how many miles you would have to drive?


30 posted on 03/07/2012 8:57:40 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ColdOne
I have over 275 credit hours in University. About 70% of those hours were chemistry, physics, math, life sciences, biology, botany, geology, pharmacy and a few courses in aviation.

It distresses me greatly to realize that all that study was in vain. Apparently Obama has now overturned the laws of thermodynamics. There is only two ways that the efficiency that he touts are real.

The first way is that the laws of thermodynamics are wrong and that would make Obama one of the greats in the science of thermodynamics.

The second way is that he is a liar and pulled those numbers out of his butt because it sounded good and he has absolutely no idea what he is saying,

31 posted on 03/07/2012 11:41:58 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: arista
Lawyers Legislating Innovation.

His Holiness, Pharaoh Obama should decree that they build Flying Cars that run on Unicorn Farts.

I think Flying Cars are cool and I hear Unicorn Farts smell just like Sandra Fluke's panties after she's had a rough night.

Next up, the $1000 an hour minimum wage so everyone is the One Percent. So it written, so it shall be done.

32 posted on 03/07/2012 11:51:03 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: ColdOne; mnehring
“Now, because of these new standards for cars and trucks, they're going to -- all going to be able to go further and use less fuel every year. And that means pretty soon you’ll be able to fill up your car every two weeks instead of every week -– and,

"...that means we'll have to triple the fuel taxes to 'pay for' your 'savings' at the pump, plus a 'small' administrative fee."

33 posted on 03/08/2012 12:14:27 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: ColdOne
Does Obama have some super secret Car design plans that will accomplish the made up CAFE numbers?

Politicians pull numbers out of their butts and the rest of us have to comply?

How many Engineers have been elected to Congress or the White House?

CAFE, minimum wage, Income Tax Rates, who lives and who dies under Obamacare, where does it stop?

34 posted on 03/08/2012 12:20:35 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Just like losing money for “children's health” programs when they raised Cigarette Taxes to fund them.

Now they priced people out of smoking tobacco and the tax receipts collected are much less than they budgeted for.

I know, unexpected. LOL

35 posted on 03/08/2012 12:24:08 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: ColdOne

We can’t get rid of this dumbass feminiized Kenyan soon enough. He has zero tech smarts. He has lying/lawyer/language smarts. Kenyan has demagogue smarts but so could I given an obsequious media. God help America, save us from this spaced out technological illiterate


36 posted on 03/08/2012 12:38:22 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: cpdiii
It distresses me greatly to realize that all that study was in vain. Apparently Obama has now overturned the laws of thermodynamics.

Just wait until they repeal Newton's Laws of Motion and the Law of Gravity...

37 posted on 03/08/2012 12:47:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I hear Unicorn Farts smell just like Sandra Fluke's panties after she's had a rough night.

Like 'Carpet Fresh'?

38 posted on 03/08/2012 12:48:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: jessduntno

Go look at at the price of a new one, then go look at the price of one 2 to 4 years old.


39 posted on 03/08/2012 7:24:21 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks ColdOne.
40 posted on 03/12/2012 7:09:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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