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FCC Considers Granting Police the Authority to Shut Down Cell Phone Networks
The Intel Hub ^ | 6 March 2012 | IntelHub

Posted on 03/08/2012 3:55:59 AM PST by ShadowAce

The FCC is currently seeking public comments on whether or not it is appropriate and feasible to grant local police forces the power to shut down mobile phone networks.

The request for the public’s input comes after BATR officials in San Fransisco shut down cell towers in an attempt to stop a first amendment protected protest for “public safety” reasons.

An article published by CFO World broke down the FCC request in an easy to understand fashion:

The FCC asks several questions in its request for comments. Among them:

– When have government agencies in the U.S. considered interrupting mobile service?

– When would it be appropriate for agencies to interrupt service?

– What risks to the public could be caused by interrupted service?

– Could mobile carriers allow customers to still dial 911 if other service was shut down?

If the FCC does decide to grant local police the authority to indiscriminately shut down cell phone service whenever they feel there is a public safety concern you can count on legitimate, first amendment protected activities to be targeted throughout the country.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: airwaves; cellphone; communications; cwii; democrats; donttreadonme; fcc; govtabuse; liberalfascism; lping; netneutrality; policestate; tyranny
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1 posted on 03/08/2012 3:56:01 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

2 posted on 03/08/2012 3:56:51 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Why not just gag everybody all the time? Who knows when someone is going to yell, “Fire”, in a crowded theater.


4 posted on 03/08/2012 4:02:38 AM PST by No One Special
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To: ShadowAce

Safety? Like to close to an election?

SSDD:

The purpose of the Internet WAS TO SURVIVE A NUCLEAR ATTACK.

Now all this is to be simply shut down at whim,
for political or other reasons.


5 posted on 03/08/2012 4:05:33 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ShadowAce

Good thing I know semaphore.


6 posted on 03/08/2012 4:05:42 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: ShadowAce

Remember when the “smart gun” that would only work if a radio signal identifying the holder as the owner was present was being touted as the solution to gun crime? Someone asked if a widespread interference signal could be generated by the government to make all smart guns inoperative. Of course it could.

Now the government want to shut down cell traffic. Is it any wonder radio controlled guns never caught on? All governments are fascist.


7 posted on 03/08/2012 4:08:31 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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NDAA, SOPA, this. . .yup, the pieces are moving on the chessboard. When the checkmate comes most people will be shocked because they thought the game was checkers.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 4:08:57 AM PST by Hayride
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To: muir_redwoods
All governments are fascist.

Of course. What's the point of being in government unless you can control everyone's lives to the last detail? /s

9 posted on 03/08/2012 4:10:43 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Why would they want to do this. Seems a safety issue. Their plotting with NDAA, drones, TSA stops, monitoring Internet...is like they are getting ready for something they know will P*ss us off.
10 posted on 03/08/2012 4:12:24 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Of course they are. Anything they can do to control us--whether it actually benefits anyone or not.

Control is the goal.

11 posted on 03/08/2012 4:14:43 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Well let's see, they already have invalidated the 2nd amendment and the 4th. And McCain/Feingold has been a great start in gutting the first.

It's a logical progression. Serfs have no rights only whatever privileges are granted to them by their master. Government politicians and bureaucrats think this situation is ideal. Government employees HATE freedom in the serfs. Freedom in the citizens limits what the government can do.

12 posted on 03/08/2012 4:19:47 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thank ShadowAce.
13 posted on 03/08/2012 4:23:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: ShadowAce

Apparently, recent events in Egypt and Lybia were a wake-up call to tyrants - and aspiring tyrants - of the dangers (to them) of modern communications in the hands of the little people....


14 posted on 03/08/2012 4:23:19 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: opentalk
Why would they want to do this. Seems a safety issue. Their plotting with NDAA, drones, TSA stops, monitoring Internet...is like they are getting ready for something they know will P*ss us off.

I watch too many cop shows. Anyway, some use cell phones to trigger bombs. Turning off the towers might stop a cell phone from triggering a bomb to go off. Are they anticipating something?

15 posted on 03/08/2012 4:23:55 AM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: ShadowAce

It’s time we buck up a bit. We may not like it, but the government will get the right to shut down cell phones, they will also get the right to shut down the Internet, and they will also get the right to shut down GPS.

Then again 25 years ago we had none of those things...yet we survived, somehow - and actually did much better than now.


16 posted on 03/08/2012 4:28:10 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: BobL
Then again 25 years ago we had none of those things...yet we survived, somehow - and actually did much better than now.

25 years ago we did not have a government actively trying to control us like we do today.

17 posted on 03/08/2012 4:30:23 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Awesome! Just like the mullahs in Iran!


18 posted on 03/08/2012 4:33:38 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: ShadowAce

Stalin would be proud.


19 posted on 03/08/2012 4:41:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

“Good thing I know semaphore.”

LOL! The commies will just accuse you of talking to yourself and put you in an asylum.


20 posted on 03/08/2012 4:41:27 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ShadowAce

This makes no sense. Most municipalities use cell phones for their means of communication so they would be cutting their own method of connecting during the so-called crisis. I also don’t think the cell carriers will stand for this.


21 posted on 03/08/2012 4:43:04 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Congress touched me inappropriately, they should be put on administrative leave immediately)
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To: BobL; ShadowAce

This will make it easier to remove individuals who are causing problems and nobody else will know.

People will disappear in the middle of the night.


22 posted on 03/08/2012 4:43:16 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Rebelbase

I’ve been thinking of getting a short wave radio; now I’m looking into it.


23 posted on 03/08/2012 4:46:06 AM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: ShadowAce

> FCC Considers Granting Police the Authority to Shut Down Cell Phone Networks

Another power that the police can abuse.
The already have police paramilitary in near violation of posse commitatas.
And why don’t police ever read someone the complete Miranda statement, “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say or do can and will be held against you in a court of law. You have the right to speak to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you. Do you understand these rights as they have been read to you?”
They NEVER tell add the sentence, “Nothing you say can be used in court in your defense.” Because, for the prosecution, you are providing evidence carrying the weight of confession, but for the defense anything you say to help your case is here-say.


24 posted on 03/08/2012 4:47:51 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: Loud Mime

I was wondering about that. Can signal jammers, jam those, too?


25 posted on 03/08/2012 4:58:03 AM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: ShadowAce

Barring civil insurrection against the government, what event would be substantial enough to warrant shutting down communications?

This kind of ruling would be on the same level as the detention of Americans in the recent Defense bill — that McCain and others supported.

More and more, it is becoming THEM vs US.

What was that quotation from Thomas Jefferson about a little rebellion periodically?


26 posted on 03/08/2012 5:15:54 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Focault's Pendulum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_jymgH8QY


27 posted on 03/08/2012 5:20:50 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: ecomcon

ECOMCON. We’ll meet at Site Y.


28 posted on 03/08/2012 5:26:30 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: Netizen
If enough random noise can broadcast across the shortwave spectrum at a sufficient strength, a shortwave radio becomes an inefficient space heater. If this is done in all population centers the effect would be massive. It's 28 years since 1984 but it's still right around the corner.
29 posted on 03/08/2012 5:32:55 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: driftdiver
This will make it easier to remove individuals who are causing problems and nobody else will know.

People will disappear in the middle of the night.

You are right on the mark. My now deceased parents and I, as a small child, witnessed and lived through exactly what you describe.

30 posted on 03/08/2012 5:43:57 AM PST by varon
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To: ShadowAce

tactic to have available if/when tea parties at the Capitol start to look like “arab spring on the potomac”


31 posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:43 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Uncle Ike

As long as the sheep can play “Words with Friends”on their phones everything will be fine.


32 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:24 AM PST by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: ShadowAce
I could see lazy union activists shutting down 911 for donuts.
33 posted on 03/08/2012 5:54:00 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: ShadowAce; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

Civil libertarians slam McCain cybersecurity bill

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/civil-libertarians-slam-mccain-cybersecurity-bill-202619424.html

Excerpt:
President Obama’s proposed legislation, like the omnibus bill Reid wants, would leave DHS in charge of cybersecurity. DHS could ask for help from the NSA, but would be subject to closer oversight than actions led by the NSA and other parts of the Defense Department.

McCain last month said he wanted the NSA to be more involved, and the agency is seen as having greater defensive and offensive capability. Under his bill, which was co-authored by seven other Republicans, the cybersecurity centers could use the information they get to investigate crime and for “a national security purpose.”

another source:
ACLU Attacks John McCain’s Cybersecurity Bill

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24181


34 posted on 03/08/2012 6:25:49 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: ShadowAce

This sounds like BS. The police have no business shutting down cell phone networks. I can see them using this power to stop the spread of chaos, but is that fair? If I know a dirty bomb is in my hometown, I should be able to call my loved ones and warn them to get out.


35 posted on 03/08/2012 6:26:06 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ShadowAce

Scary how our interests seem to be aligning with nutjobs like Wikipedia and Anonymous despite everything else.


36 posted on 03/08/2012 6:27:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: for-q-clinton
but is that fair?

Who's talking about fairness? Of course it's not fair. This is about control--control of the population, and control of movement. With no communication, you couldn't warn your family to leave town, and that's the way they want it.

37 posted on 03/08/2012 6:38:51 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Scary how our interests seem to be aligning with nutjobs like Wikipedia and Anonymous despite everything else.

Makes you wonder whether they really are nutjobs, or just out in front.

38 posted on 03/08/2012 6:39:48 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Jeez. Not even the Mideast dictators thought to do this.

America, she is long gone.

39 posted on 03/08/2012 6:42:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm a slut.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep. ‘Tis unsettling.


40 posted on 03/08/2012 6:59:24 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: ShadowAce; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


The FCC is currently seeking public comments on whether or not it is appropriate and feasible to grant local police forces the power to shut down mobile phone networks.

If the FCC does decide to grant local police the authority to indiscriminately shut down cell phone service whenever they feel there is a public safety concern you can count on legitimate, first amendment protected activities to be targeted throughout the country.

41 posted on 03/08/2012 7:00:42 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ShadowAce

This is why you need a land line.


42 posted on 03/08/2012 7:02:11 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

LOL


43 posted on 03/08/2012 7:14:40 AM PST by windcliff
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To: ShadowAce

That is a really stoopid idea and a real problem for those in the area who need to communicate for business, medical or emergency needs.

What happens to the mother who cannot contact her children to to tell them she will be delayed or better, what happens if she can’t make arrangements for her children to be cared for?

What happens to the child, who needing managed medical care, isn’t able to get information or the information cannot be given to someone who could care for that child?

What about the parent with Alzheimer’s or other diseases that the don or daughter is trying to manage and now cannot communicate to someone the predicament?

Will any dogs be shot in these fiasco’s?

The all might power of the state trumps all.


44 posted on 03/08/2012 7:16:40 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Loud Mime

Maybe CB Radios will soon be back in vogue.


45 posted on 03/08/2012 7:16:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Vendome

This isn’t about what’s right—this is about power and control.


46 posted on 03/08/2012 7:23:15 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Brown Deer; azishot; little jeremiah; LucyT
FCC Considers Granting Police the Authority to Shut Down Cell Phone Networks

An answer to the question of signs for things to come.

47 posted on 03/08/2012 7:25:53 AM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Netizen

In Iraq they shut down the cell towers whenever there was an operation going down. Of course that most likely tipped off the locals anyway but they could not coordinate attacks without cell phones.

The military and law enforcement will still need to communicate so I suggest getting some secure walki talkies


48 posted on 03/08/2012 7:33:32 AM PST by USAF80
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To: ShadowAce

sarcasm

I can never foresee an instance where this would be abused.

/sarcasm

Um... I STILL can’t find a spot in my copy of the Constitution that allows for the FCC to even exist.


49 posted on 03/08/2012 7:34:59 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Can’t use a land line in your car.


50 posted on 03/08/2012 7:35:13 AM PST by USAF80
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